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  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    14k sounds to cheap, can we make it 22k crypto only?

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  • wdmgwdmg Member, LIR
    edited April 2025

    @default said:
    There are quite a few red flags:

    1. Asking $14k without any proof as to why this amount.
    2. cPanel price is a profit issue at the moment.
    3. Needs a buyer with good management skills (who already pays $14k)
    4. Needs a buyer who can increase profits (which needs increasing).
    5. He already talked with his customers.
    6. Selling something which should already be profitable (in India).

    Yes, I guess I'll call it: the end is nigh on this one. I just don't know in who's name should I make the popcorn.

    Asking $14k is one thing, getting $14k is another. OP is hoping for 3x his annual profit, but the reality is he'd be lucky to get 1x in this market.

    Hardware isn't often worth any value, I'm assuming they either colo or rent (likely rent), which means it can be gotten rid of easily enough with migration to other hardware. I doubt OP has anything of significant value, so all in all it's a straight client sale, which OP would be smarter to ask up to 1.5x annual revenue versus annual profit, OP would get a higher amount on annual rev versus profit.

    I'm also betting it's beyond oversold, and OP's probably walking the thin line between blowing the node up or keeping it alive.

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @wdmg said: I'm also betting it's beyond oversold, and OP's probably walking the thin line between blowing the node up or keeping it alive.

    >

    I mean, it depends how busy the sites are. His node likely sits fine with his only issue being the cPanel licensing costs. Questions to the OP then.

    Biggest issue is if the OP is barely making a profit, then the only way is to move off cPanel, or, hope that NOC pricing fixes it. Still, that's $500/m in cPanel at NOC pricing.

    Are there resellers involved? Some info on the payment breakdown (are people heavy yearly? multi year? lifetimes? etc).

    Francisco

  • @Tange said:

    @samratfkt said:

    Actually I valued the company, annual profits x 3

    so you are making less than $400 profit per month, and you asking for $14000???

    dude, the world is not working that way~

    Yes Almost! but we will surely negotiate the price.

  • @SillyGoose said:
    This is like asking VC for funding but asking them to sign NDA without any pitch deck, no info of founder etc.

    Actually If you are intersted I will love to share all the details into private message. Thank you!

  • @default said:
    There are quite a few red flags:

    1. Asking $14k without any proof as to why this amount.
    2. cPanel price is a profit issue at the moment.
    3. Needs a buyer with good management skills (who already pays $14k)
    4. Needs a buyer who can increase profits (which needs increasing).
    5. He already talked with his customers.
    6. Selling something which should already be profitable (in India).

    Yes, I guess I'll call it: the end is nigh on this one. I just don't know in who's name should I make the popcorn.

    1. I am asking and not taking money without giving any proofs. If someone is intersted then he surely check all the details and proofs before buying the company.
    2. Yes you are right sustaining is becoming hard thats why I am selling this company
    3. Yes I need someone who has a big infra already, small providers cant scale this business with cpanel
    4. I think point 3 is enough
    5. Yes, I talked with my clients about directadmin but they are not intersted in that.
    6. I dont know what you are talking here
  • @wdmg said:

    @default said:
    There are quite a few red flags:

    1. Asking $14k without any proof as to why this amount.
    2. cPanel price is a profit issue at the moment.
    3. Needs a buyer with good management skills (who already pays $14k)
    4. Needs a buyer who can increase profits (which needs increasing).
    5. He already talked with his customers.
    6. Selling something which should already be profitable (in India).

    Yes, I guess I'll call it: the end is nigh on this one. I just don't know in who's name should I make the popcorn.

    Asking $14k is one thing, getting $14k is another. OP is hoping for 3x his annual profit, but the reality is he'd be lucky to get 1x in this market.

    Hardware isn't often worth any value, I'm assuming they either colo or rent (likely rent), which means it can be gotten rid of easily enough with migration to other hardware. I doubt OP has anything of significant value, so all in all it's a straight client sale, which OP would be smarter to ask up to 1.5x annual revenue versus annual profit, OP would get a higher amount on annual rev versus profit.

    I'm also betting it's beyond oversold, and OP's probably walking the thin line between blowing the node up or keeping it alive.

    Thanks for your suggestions; I really appreciate your time and your feedback.

    I thought a 3x annual profit would be fine for a hosting business, but maybe I am wrong!

    I rent a server and do not own any hardware, so it is quite easy to shift it to any other server. Correct, I am just making client sales deal, which are very old, and they make recurring payments for long terms. Also a 9 years old company with domain name, facebook page which has good amount of followers.

    It's not oversold. All servers are working at 40% of their capacity; if you are intersted, I can show you all the details You want!

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    $7

  • @samratfkt said: It's not oversold. All servers are working at 40% of their capacity; if you are intersted, I can show you all the details You want!

    Post screenshot of htop, and send 2 saucy nudes to @emgh

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @shallownorthdakota said:

    @samratfkt said: It's not oversold. All servers are working at 40% of their capacity; if you are intersted, I can show you all the details You want!

    Post screenshot of htop, and send 2 saucy nudes to @emgh

    About that, my mother sent me a picture of her new earrings and Apple asked me several times if I’m okay and if I need help and that I can’t ever unsee the sent nudes and now it wants me to block her

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    ”AI will take over the world”

    Also AI:

  • SGrafSGraf Member, Patron Provider

    @Intelpentiumm said:
    Tagging @SGraf as he might be interested.

    Thank you very much for the tag. Apreciate it.

    @samratfkt said:

    @wdmg said:

    @default said:
    There are quite a few red flags:

    1. Asking $14k without any proof as to why this amount.
    2. cPanel price is a profit issue at the moment.
    3. Needs a buyer with good management skills (who already pays $14k)
    4. Needs a buyer who can increase profits (which needs increasing).
    5. He already talked with his customers.
    6. Selling something which should already be profitable (in India).

    Yes, I guess I'll call it: the end is nigh on this one. I just don't know in who's name should I make the popcorn.

    Asking $14k is one thing, getting $14k is another. OP is hoping for 3x his annual profit, but the reality is he'd be lucky to get 1x in this market.

    Hardware isn't often worth any value, I'm assuming they either colo or rent (likely rent), which means it can be gotten rid of easily enough with migration to other hardware. I doubt OP has anything of significant value, so all in all it's a straight client sale, which OP would be smarter to ask up to 1.5x annual revenue versus annual profit, OP would get a higher amount on annual rev versus profit.

    I'm also betting it's beyond oversold, and OP's probably walking the thin line between blowing the node up or keeping it alive.

    Thanks for your suggestions; I really appreciate your time and your feedback.

    I thought a 3x annual profit would be fine for a hosting business, but maybe I am wrong!

    I rent a server and do not own any hardware, so it is quite easy to shift it to any other server. Correct, I am just making client sales deal, which are very old, and they make recurring payments for long terms. Also a 9 years old company with domain name, facebook page which has good amount of followers.

    It's not oversold. All servers are working at 40% of their capacity; if you are intersted, I can show you all the details You want!

    Feel free to send me a dm or mail with some more details. From this discussion alone, there is not enough information to figure out if i am interested or at what pricepoint.

    Kind Regards

  • Selling due to failing cost rises is a risk. What have you done to manage cost risk?

    Cpanel only works for mainstream and grandfathered plans.

    You can move to Virtfusion or DirectAdmin to manage profitability.

  • Hi,
    I might be interested in this. I am from India and also someone who is well established in the blogging industry of India (if you know HBB, PTI all that). I also have the budget that you asked for so that's not an issue. The price should be genuine though.
    Please DM me more details.
    Thanks

  • My indian client is interested in this. They were part of the famous hostingraja group. Kindly dm me. Most the numbers matter. Do include the server specs they are hosted on. Lets see if it requires an upgrade or will those server be sufficient to host and expand in next 5 years.

  • rskrsk Member, Host Rep

    Send me the details, only if you are serious.

  • Best I can do is 7$

  • alfatarsosalfatarsos Member, Host Rep
    edited April 2025

    3x the annual profit is way too high, the industry standard is to cover 6-12 months of profits on the asking price, which would bring the amount to roughly ~4700 USD for 12 months of income.

    Moreover, being cPanel and long-term, at a 20-25% increase on pricing per year, this is somewhat risky, because: either the panel changes and the aforementioned clients can be lost, or the panel doesn't change and, upon renewals, one can have a price increase and run the same exact risk. I'd assume a loss of around 25%-50% of the customers for this.

    We don't also know if these "long term customers" are made up to some or all extents, and upon renewal they all don't pay and this is an exit scam for what constitutes a lot of money in India.

    Therefore I'd quote the fair price as around 2-3k. Not more than that.

  • rdesrdes Member

    One of the EU hosting companies (with ~5k domains) whose owner I know was sold few months ago and he got 4x yearly turnover (not just profit).

    And in current shared hosting landscape I think it was still cheaper for the acquiring company than looking for new customers ;)

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