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Jar saves the day, MyW to continue (WAS MyW is closing doors)

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  • fredo1664fredo1664 Member
    edited March 2025

    @webmaster24 said:
    but it's life.

    ... it was just not for life!

    Thanked by 1webmaster24
  • nohavpsnohavps Member, Host Rep
    edited March 2025

    DELETE POST!

  • kdjmakdjma Member

    Shame it had to close
    I was hoping it would continue with lifetime users getting something like 5-10GB free, so at least something, but it's understandable that it's closing.

  • o_be_oneo_be_one Member
    edited March 2025

    End of the game =(.

    End of the game

    Thanks MikePT and Jar, it has been a nice road! Thanks for all :). Jar you saved us some precious time to move away, as usual you are a awesome human. MikePT you offered us inexpansive and powerful hosting, I hope everything is getting back well on your side.

    And thanks to providers making offers to refugees! Much appreciated, so helpful :).

  • @nohavps said:

    @webmaster24 said:
    Email received: "Today we're letting you know that MyW will be permanently closing on July 1, 2025.".
    Sorry to see it go, I had several accounts, but it's life.

    @MikePT What do you think about your clients who trusted your services, paid for something forever, you abandoned them, you changed a chapter of your life but you criticize many companies because they don't do what you did, you should be ashamed and you continue with your life as if nothing happened when your clients are looking for ways for their websites to work!!

    jar already helped keep the services alive so users have time to obtain and migrate their data.. this is already shutting down so no point asking mike anything now

    Thanked by 1nohavps
  • maverickmaverick Member
    edited March 2025

    @jar said:
    I decided on July 1st. Given that it’s being neglected, will continue to be, and that most users with anything of value will have moved out already, I’m letting her go. Everyone had these super high expectations for it, always saying things like “We want it to be online” and stuff. I prevented a shutdown so quick that no one had time to get data out, and I’ve provided enough time for those remaining to move their data out. My conscience is satisfied.

    You've already proven to be a very generous man, and now giving extra 3 months is yet another confirmation of the fact.

    I've never been MyW customer, but I am now a proud MXroute customer. Of a non-lifetime offer, if I may add. :D

    All the best!

    Thanked by 1jar
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    Let me just say that the email I sent out was meant to be precise and honest, not to be rude. But if anyone wants to open a ticket and be rude about it, I’m more than happy to give them a look at the alternate timeline.

  • This is the last time I do something so stupid like buying lifetime hosting....

    FML

    Thanked by 1kkrajk
  • agxlagxl Member, Host Rep

    @ascicode said:

    @agxl said:

    @mark92 said:

    @jar said:
    I think it’s best that people get their data removed rather than passed on again. I don’t think playing hot potato with people’s data nets positive results overall. It does suck for people who purchased a lifetime plan toward the end of them, but I can’t allow myself to get too caught up in that. It’s not any more fair to them that I’m giving them my bare minimum with no end to it in sight.

    We appreciate that. Nobody likes having their data passed on to some unknown entity.

    Also, would you consider @agxl suggestion or is a shutdown confirmed? If so, any estimated time for the shutdown (I know you mentioned that there will be ample time to move away, just looking for an estimate)?

    Thanks :smile:

    I’d like to emphasize once again that there seems to be a misunderstanding here. The potential "takeover" does not mean purchasing user data.

    First of all, MyW (WNDP - WebNegócio Lda.) is a Portuguese company and therefore subject to the strict European General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR). This means a standard acquisition would be "nearly impossible" for legal reasons related to data protection.

    My idea was simply to cover the server costs through a "server maintenance bridging fee" paid by the remaining customers. These customers would have to actively agree to this; otherwise, their accounts would be terminated and deleted. A contract could be drafted to clearly define these terms, while MyW would retain control. Additionally, multiple volunteer administrators would help reduce @MikePT Miguel's workload.

    This would turn into a "server community" or a "cost-sharing server." Since starting everything from scratch would be much more complicated, it makes sense to build upon what Miguel has already created. There are likely still existing license and provider contracts that would be far more expensive if signed today.

    I’m interested in this, and I believe there are others in the community who would be as well. It wouldn’t generate any profit — at least not yet — but who needs profit anyway.

    So, I would be willing to work something out. If you, @jar, @MikePT, etc., are interested, feel free to contact me.

    Who goes in for taxes?

    Since this is a "community server", there are no taxes. No revenue = no taxes.

    But my idea is being ignored anyway — there must be reasons for that.

    Somehow, I have the feeling that we’ll soon see "another" (new ?) web hosting provider offering lifetime hosting packages. But I could be wrong.

  • mafidommafidom Member
    edited March 2025

    @jar Thank you for saving a lot of folks some very valuable data and time. That email shows your dedication and character in the hosting industry. Not only did you saved the ship from sinking but you kept it floating for FREE! No other host would do this. Now you decide to shut it down and give us 3 months to move out for FREE. I really wish other providers were like you! Kudos to you and your team!

    Thanked by 4jar agxl Decicus adly
  • MikePTMikePT Veteran

    @o_be_one said:
    End of the game =(.

    End of the game

    Thanks MikePT and Jar, it has been a nice road! Thanks for all :). Jar you saved us some precious time to move away, as usual you are a awesome human. MikePT you offered us inexpansive and powerful hosting, I hope everything is getting back well on your side.

    And thanks to providers making offers to refugees! Much appreciated, so helpful :).

    @jar is the one to thank. I had great plans for MyW but didn't work out. I guess I wasn't made to own webhosting companies, but rather to work for those! :)

    @jar, thank you so much, from the bottom of my heart.

  • Thank you @jar

    Thanked by 2jar nohavps
  • best quote of 2025

    "I don't deal in fiction"

    Thanked by 2jar borkedascii
  • NamePackNamePack Member, Host Rep

    Hey Mike, This shall too pass! Just Stay Alive brother!

    Thanked by 1MikePT
  • K4Y5K4Y5 Member
    edited March 2025

    @jar said: I decided on July 1st. Given that it’s being neglected, will continue to be, and that most users with anything of value will have moved out already, I’m letting her go. Everyone had these super high expectations for it, always saying things like “We want it to be online” and stuff. I prevented a shutdown so quick that no one had time to get data out, and I’ve provided enough time for those remaining to move their data out. My conscience is satisfied.

    I moved my stuff away once the warning signs started to appear well before @MikePT announced closure - dwindling stability, non-renewed / cancelled licenses, minor issues that seemingly took forever to acknowledge and fix etc.

    Anyway, I am sure there were/are people that probably couldn't move at that point due to obvious issue, and @jar literally saved the day for them by keeping the ship afloat for almost a year at personal cost & with nothing to gain from it. Thanks again for the assist! :smile:

    Thanked by 1jar
  • catscats Member

    I assume you aren't accepting offers of acquisition to avoid what happened in September when MyW was closing, causing users to move off and then refund a bunch of other providers when things were staying online?

    Thanked by 1jar
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @cats said:
    I assume you aren't accepting offers of acquisition to avoid what happened in September when MyW was closing, causing users to move off and then refund a bunch of other providers when things were staying online?

    It's such a toxic asset I honestly just think it needs to die a proper death. I'm happy that I was able to facilitate one that wasn't so sudden.

  • catscats Member

    @jar said:

    @cats said:
    I assume you aren't accepting offers of acquisition to avoid what happened in September when MyW was closing, causing users to move off and then refund a bunch of other providers when things were staying online?

    It's such a toxic asset I honestly just think it needs to die a proper death. I'm happy that I was able to facilitate one that wasn't so sudden.

    Honestly good call to make sure it dies here. There's not really much to salvage off the plans/setup they had and any host that thinks otherwise... well it'd just be hurting the users.

    Thanked by 1jar
  • nvidiannvidian Member
    edited March 2025

    @MikePT Wish you & your family all the best. God bless.

  • is there any refugee reseller package offer?

  • @jar said:

    @fiend said:
    @default stop talking for @jar, he just said he was a bit tired of it all and thinks its best to shut it down eventually... the rest is all fantasy talk...

    I’m absolutely shutting it down, to be clear. I don’t know when, but the longer I take to figure it out the more likely it is to push the date back. It would take a lot for me to turn something off without excessive notice.

    so what happens with the account that abuse server logs to TB in size? what's your stance on it? are you suspending them?

  • @jar I don't think I have participated in this thread, so doing now. THANK YOU for the time and effort you have put in to keep the boat float, and give people adequate time to move to a more permanent solution. You didn't have to do it, but you still took your time, effort, and money out of courtesy, and I really thank you for that. And although I am a really small customer of MXroute, I am proud of being one.

    @MikePT I have purchased some services from you, and I don't regret it. Although it would have been great if the services were indeed provided throughout my lifetime, but I do understand things happen. I hope you my best of luck on your next adventure, and thank you for the service you have provided with MyW.

    Thanked by 3jar MikePT borkedascii
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited March 2025

    @ScreenReader said:

    @jar said:

    @fiend said:
    @default stop talking for @jar, he just said he was a bit tired of it all and thinks its best to shut it down eventually... the rest is all fantasy talk...

    I’m absolutely shutting it down, to be clear. I don’t know when, but the longer I take to figure it out the more likely it is to push the date back. It would take a lot for me to turn something off without excessive notice.

    so what happens with the account that abuse server logs to TB in size? what's your stance on it? are you suspending them?

    They were running a criminal operation on MyW. I will be keeping their data and I would be thrilled for them to sue me over it so I can learn their real identity. Their data is my proof of innocence in the matter.

  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep

    @jar said:

    @ScreenReader said:

    @jar said:

    @fiend said:
    @default stop talking for @jar, he just said he was a bit tired of it all and thinks its best to shut it down eventually... the rest is all fantasy talk...

    I’m absolutely shutting it down, to be clear. I don’t know when, but the longer I take to figure it out the more likely it is to push the date back. It would take a lot for me to turn something off without excessive notice.

    so what happens with the account that abuse server logs to TB in size? what's your stance on it? are you suspending them?

    They were running a criminal operation on MyW. I will be keeping their data and I would be thrilled for them to sue me over it so I can learn their real identity. Their data is my proof of innocence in the matter.

    Just out of curiosity, those hosting plans don't have a disk quota cap? Were they "unlimited"?

    I know that DA/cP stores log in user's home, so it should've reached quota pretty fast...

  • fiendfiend Member

    Oh well... I still don't understand the reverence for @MikePT when he did such a poor job out of the service (it was bad for months) and shutdown (so many options, his choice was nothing), but not gonna rethread my comments on that...

    I see no issue with lifetime hosting, for me it's just a highly discounted hosting, that gets cheaper over time, if it works well for a reasonable time period then it was worth it, if not, then it wasn't, in my case with MyW it was pretty much worth it, even with quite a few performance/downtimes.

    As for @jar it would be interesting if he could do something with it, but guess patience run out... understandable, the service wasn't in the best conditions on the handoff anyways, there were no promises and it was his to do whatever, still grateful he jumped in...

  • _MS__MS_ Member

    Thanked by 1crunchbits
  • There are a lot of stupid people believing that for life is their life. No, lifetime is the length of product.

    A PREMIUM service , with uptimes bordering 100% , which could not be @mikept , but up to that point is what many of us received.

    I totally understand that myw must be in the past, seeing the behavior and comments of those left around here.

    It makes me truly ashamed as a human being to see some attitudes.

    Thanked by 2MikePT vedran
  • ArkasArkas Member, Retired Moderator

    @jar is an unsung hero. I know most of us appreciate what he did when he didn't have to do it yet I still see a few complaining. It's a shame. It is people like him that make this a community, albeit a shrinking one instead of just a forum.

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  • @ikibsys said:
    There are a lot of stupid people [...] It makes me truly ashamed as a human being to see some attitudes.

    I mean...

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