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  • Sad about private email not going along. Proton is crap privacy-wise. Anyway, good luck with migration, seems like it will keep you busy for a while.

  • yeah I might have bitten too on the privacy email, but again also appreciate @MannDude 's honesty, as he didn't hide anything and discussed everything openly :smile: and Good luck with you journey ahead :)

  • Too bad for private email, I was really looking forward to switch, considering how much you care about privacy. All in all, good luck in your future endeavors, maybe you decide to continue development one day.

  • @MannDude said: NameCrane will have EU based mail soon

    which would have to be proven! @Francisco

  • @hyperblast said:

    @MannDude said: NameCrane will have EU based mail soon

    which would have to be proven! @Francisco

    Waiting for the EU locations to roll out.

    Thanked by 1cainyxues
  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    @JohnFilch123 said:
    Sad about private email not going along. Proton is crap privacy-wise. Anyway, good luck with migration, seems like it will keep you busy for a while.

    @cainyxues said:
    yeah I might have bitten too on the privacy email, but again also appreciate @MannDude 's honesty, as he didn't hide anything and discussed everything openly :smile: and Good luck with you journey ahead :)

    @oriend said:
    Too bad for private email, I was really looking forward to switch, considering how much you care about privacy. All in all, good luck in your future endeavors, maybe you decide to continue development one day.

    I'm not saying no to it forever, just no to it for now. ;)

  • @MannDude said: ProtonMail is fine

    is a semi-closed system. does not natively support email protocols.

  • @JohnFilch123 said: Proton is crap privacy-wise.

    Why is that?

  • 10thHouse10thHouse Member
    edited March 2025

    @MannDude said:
    UPDATE TIME

    Good news and some bad news.

    I'll start with the bad:

    I'm just going to scrap the MyPrivateInbox project.

    I just don't have the time to work on it. Additionally, we were going to launch this originally in the Netherlands, of course, but since we're migrating out of Worldstream in the coming months, any services hosted there (including this) would be disrupted during the migration. Seems like poor practice to offer / advertise a service as available only to disrupt access to it a month or two later for a few hours or so (unsure how long the migration will actually take).

    Plus, we'll do some IP renumbering in NL, won't impact everyone but will impact the subnet that this was originally on. Just honestly don't feel like it's worth the hassle to migrate, renumber, or even recreate.

    NameCrane will have EU based mail soon, so if that is all that you care about, use them as they're going to be much cheaper and offer way more storage and features than we ever would have. If you want more privacy specific features and options, ProtonMail is fine.

    Speaking of Netherlands...

    We'll be migrating from Worldstream to the Databarn and maintaining service for everyone in the Netherlands. The caveat being, we will not be accepting new orders for the Netherlands for likely several months. We're simply getting enough hardware to move away from Worldstream and to accommodate existing VPS customers, not hardware to accommodate new customers. This is allowing us to save a ton of money, which we can then use stateside for things like purchasing hardware and hiring some support help.


    Beyond that, still testing VirtFusion out and trying to make a proper plan for how I wish to proceed with the migrations stateside. I've got some hardware prepped in WA for this, but am still testing some things out before I begin what I assume will be a long and painstaking migration process.

    Will add VirtFusion documentation as I have energy / encounter things that I think will be useful for the end-user to know when moving from Virtualizor: https://portal.incognet.io/knowledgebase/14/Virtual-Private-Server-VPS-or-Virtual-Dedicated-Server-vDedi

    Big "Virtually Dedicated Servers" are available: https://portal.incognet.io/store/virtually-dedicated - Ping me if you want these starting at $50. Can't advertise them here directly because they're "Virtual Servers" and exceed $10/mo, even though it's just a virtualized layer ontop of a blade. You're the only customer on the blade and can pound the resources 100%, 24/7 if you wish. ;)

    EDIT:

    Also, new offers for IncogNET may be posted under our new @ISP account. This is still me. I want to use MannDude more for general shit-posting / whatever and have an account separate for actual business use. Mods / admins know of this already, it's something several other providers practice and there is no issue with it.

    That's unfortunate. But I'm looking forward to whatever comes next. What kinds of other brands can we expect under @ISP ? I remember something about an enterprise-oriented company you mentioned a while back.

  • @hyperblast said:

    @MannDude said: ProtonMail is fine

    is a semi-closed system. does not natively support email protocols.

    Also no support for XMR payments, even with gift cards. At least Tuta offers those through proxysto.re

    Proton is meant for Normies who are switching away from Google and want the comforts of a full workspace suite. It is better than Google by far, but not for the most hardcore privacy enthusiasts, at least not as a single provider to rely on. For that demographic, there isn't a perfect, one size fits all answer.

    Thanked by 1nghialele
  • crunchbitscrunchbits Member, Patron Provider, Top Host
  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited March 2025

    @10thHouse said:
    That's unfortunate. But I'm looking forward to whatever comes next. What kinds of other brands can we expect under @ISP ? I remember something about an enterprise-oriented company you mentioned a while back.

    There is another brand in the works, but the marketing of the services will be done differently than what I do for IncogNET. It'll be the same services and features that IncogNET has, just different branding and marketing angles that is more geared towards business, entrepreneurs, start ups, digital nomads, etc. The main privacy features of IncogNET will still exist, of course. The privacy and speech related policies are a core part of what I believe in, but the way IncogNET is branded and presented is a turn off for some of these demographics.

    Additionally, I may rebrand IncogVPN to something different, and run it separately. Namely because there is an app in the app store with the same name, that is unrelated to us. Will still be available via IncogNET, of course, but wouldn't mind having it be it's own brand and have it's own website and presence considering there are many more people who are interested in a VPN who have no need, desire or even know what domains, hosting, etc is all about. Your Mom and grandpa have probably seen a commercial for a VPN on the TV before. They probably don't know what a KVM Virtual Server is, though...

    Thanked by 2fatchan 10thHouse
  • @10thHouse said:

    @hyperblast said:

    @MannDude said: ProtonMail is fine

    is a semi-closed system. does not natively support email protocols.

    Also no support for XMR payments, even with gift cards. At least Tuta offers those through proxysto.re

    Proton is meant for Normies who are switching away from Google and want the comforts of a full workspace suite. It is better than Google by far, but not for the most hardcore privacy enthusiasts, at least not as a single provider to rely on. For that demographic, there isn't a perfect, one size fits all answer.

    tuta is no better. it does not support any typical native email protocols. it is also just a system that works on its own.

    Thanked by 1nghialele
  • @hyperblast said:

    @10thHouse said:

    @hyperblast said:

    @MannDude said: ProtonMail is fine

    is a semi-closed system. does not natively support email protocols.

    Also no support for XMR payments, even with gift cards. At least Tuta offers those through proxysto.re

    Proton is meant for Normies who are switching away from Google and want the comforts of a full workspace suite. It is better than Google by far, but not for the most hardcore privacy enthusiasts, at least not as a single provider to rely on. For that demographic, there isn't a perfect, one size fits all answer.

    tuta is no better. it does not support any typical native email protocols. it is also just a system that works on its own.

    Agreed. I'm just pointing out that XMR payment is possible, and proton chooses not to offer it.

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    Testing some new plans out.

    On these new nodes, we have enabled Secure Memory Encryption (SME) by default. This is an AMD Epyc security feature that offers some physical memory encryption on the host node.

    For individual VMs, we're testing SEV-ES, which may be an optional opt-in feature at an added cost. Doesn't seem like we can automate the process and there are some limitations. Additionally, at least on the node I am using for testing, we'd be limited to X number of VMs that we could apply this to. While all of the components are there to support it at the host level, I'm having some difficulty getting VirtFusion to play nicely when trying to enable it on an individual VM.

    It's late and I'm tired so I asked Claude to create a quick blurb comparing the two features.

    SME (Secure Memory Encryption)
    SME provides foundational security by encrypting all physical memory on the host server. For VPS users, this means your data stored in RAM is protected against physical access attacks, reducing the risk of data theft through memory interception. This transparent protection works without configuration changes or performance impact, creating an essential baseline security layer for your virtual server's operational data.

    SEV-ES (Secure Encrypted Virtualization - Encrypted State)
    SEV-ES elevates your VPS security to confidential computing status by encrypting your VM's memory and CPU state from the hypervisor itself. This means your sensitive operations, encryption keys, and data processing remain private even from the host provider, offering cryptographic isolation rather than trust-based security. For businesses handling sensitive information, SEV-ES transforms your VPS from a rented space to a private vault where not even the landlord holds the keys.

    So, if I get SEV-ES working without much headache it'll likely be an opt-in feature. Can't enable it by default for everyone because of some host node BIOS restrictions, in that I'm limited in the number of VMs it can apply to and there are some caveats like the VMs can not be live migrated, not all VM OS options will work but the major ones should (Debian, Ubuntu, etc), I don't believe snapshots can be made, but this is something I'll have to test, there is a performance impact expected but it's something that will need to be tested and measured. I've got some empty nodes sitting in WA that I can compare dev VMs on... In any case, it's something I am looking more into and researching. It'll be a great option for those who use LUKS encryption and are paranoid about their keys getting dumped from memory, for example. (SME by itself doesn't protect against this)

    Anyway, we're designing some new VPS plans. All existing customers will keep their plans, but they may be discontinued. They'll just be marked as "legacy" plans. One of the new plans is shown below... Not a low end plan but it's what I've been playing with in testing.

    root@fruitful-draft:~# curl -sL https://yabs.sh | bash
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2025-01-01                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Sat Mar 15 09:07:38 PM GMT 2025
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 7371 16-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 8 @ 3099.994 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 31.3 GiB
    Swap       : 0.0 KiB
    Disk       : 399.9 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-32-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : IncogNET LLC
    ASN        : AS210630 IncogNET LLC
    Host       : Incognet LLC
    Location   : Liberty Lake, Washington (WA)
    Country    : United States
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda3):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 355.94 MB/s  (88.9k) | 1.96 GB/s    (30.7k)
    Write      | 356.88 MB/s  (89.2k) | 1.97 GB/s    (30.9k)
    Total      | 712.83 MB/s (178.2k) | 3.94 GB/s    (61.7k)
               |                      |                     
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 2.46 GB/s     (4.8k) | 2.64 GB/s     (2.5k)
    Write      | 2.59 GB/s     (5.0k) | 2.81 GB/s     (2.7k)
    Total      | 5.05 GB/s     (9.8k) | 5.46 GB/s     (5.3k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.25 Gbits/sec  | 767 Mbits/sec   | 142 ms         
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 4.08 Gbits/sec  | 1.68 Gbits/sec  | 164 ms         
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.72 Gbits/sec  | 775 Mbits/sec   | 226 ms         
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 2.59 Gbits/sec  | 1.73 Gbits/sec  | --             
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 5.29 Gbits/sec  | 2.87 Gbits/sec  | 35.5 ms        
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 5.13 Gbits/sec  | 2.42 Gbits/sec  | 71.2 ms        
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 2.99 Gbits/sec  | 828 Mbits/sec   | 190 ms         
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | busy            | 1.20 Gbits/sec  | 140 ms         
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 3.49 Gbits/sec  | 2.61 Gbits/sec  | 169 ms         
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.64 Gbits/sec  | 616 Mbits/sec   | 226 ms         
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | busy            | busy            | --             
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 5.32 Gbits/sec  | 2.48 Gbits/sec  | 35.7 ms        
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 5.09 Gbits/sec  | 2.53 Gbits/sec  | 71.3 ms        
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 2.92 Gbits/sec  | 745 Mbits/sec   | 190 ms         
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value                         
                    |                               
    Single Core     | 1227                          
    Multi Core      | 5158                          
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/11044897
    
    YABS completed in 15 min 43 sec
    
    

    Network:

    VM is supposed to be capped at 5Gbps in VirtFusion, so not sure why it's pulling 5.x+ Gbps down in some locations. Host node has a 10G NIC I can max out if I test at the host level, so seems the throughput limit may not be set properly in VF. (Though it does appear correct, so who knows)

    ---------------------------------- nws.sh ---------------------------------
          A simple script to bench network performance using speedtest-cli     
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Version            : v2025.02.28
     Global Speedtest   : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash
     Region Speedtest   : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash -s -- -r <region>
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Basic System Info
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     CPU Model          : AMD EPYC 7371 16-Core Processor
     CPU Cores          : 8 @ 3099.994 MHz
     CPU Cache          : 512 KB
     AES-NI             : ✔ Enabled
     VM-x/AMD-V         : ✔ Enabled
     Total Disk         : 399.9 GB (8.7 GB Used)
     Total RAM          : 31.3 GB (568.3 MB Used)
     System uptime      : 0 days, 0 hour 26 min
     Load average       : 0.00, 0.12, 0.24
     OS                 : Debian GNU/Linux 12
     Arch               : x86_64 (64 Bit)
     Kernel             : 6.1.0-32-amd64
     Virtualization     : KVM
     TCP Control        : bbr
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Basic Network Info
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Primary Network    : IPv6
     IPv6 Access        : ✔ Online
     IPv4 Access        : ✔ Online
     ISP                : IncogNET LLC
     ASN                : AS210630 IncogNET LLC
     Host               : Incognet LLC
     Location           : Liberty Lake, Washington-WA, United States
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Speedtest.net (Region: NORTH AMERICA)
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Location         Latency     Loss    DL Speed       UP Speed       Server      
    
     ISP: IncogNET 
    
     Nearest          0.56 ms     0.0%    3515.43 Mbps   5227.20 Mbps   Crunchbits - Spokane, WA 
    
     Vancouver, BC    11.17 ms    N/A     3369.24 Mbps   5775.87 Mbps   TELUS - Vancouver, BC 
     Calgary, AB      27.26 ms    N/A     3163.42 Mbps   3343.98 Mbps   Shaw Communications - Calgary, AB 
     Winnipeg, MB     38.35 ms    0.0%    3146.89 Mbps   2170.31 Mbps   Voyageur Internet - Winnipeg, MB 
     Toronto, ON      71.76 ms    0.0%    2869.36 Mbps   1219.49 Mbps   Bell Canada - Toronto, ON 
     Montreal, QC     83.93 ms    0.0%    2577.44 Mbps   1160.10 Mbps   Rogers Wireless - Montréal, QC 
    
     New York, NY     73.85 ms    0.0%    2612.88 Mbps   1201.75 Mbps   Surfshark Ltd - New York, NY 
     Ashburn, VA      72.37 ms    0.0%    1669.03 Mbps   1190.98 Mbps   Rackdog - Ashburn, VA 
     Durham, NC       75.33 ms    0.0%    2417.68 Mbps   1161.81 Mbps   Spectrum - Durham, NC 
     Atlanta, GA      88.56 ms    0.0%    2081.62 Mbps   1049.97 Mbps   Clouvider Ltd - Atlanta, GA 
     Miami, FL        74.63 ms    0.0%    2980.57 Mbps   1197.39 Mbps   ReliableSite Hosting - Miami, FL 
     Dallas, TX       63.11 ms    0.0%    3392.14 Mbps   2779.50 Mbps   Hivelocity - Dallas, TX 
     Houston, TX      63.46 ms    N/A     3105.93 Mbps   1396.19 Mbps   Comcast - Houston, TX 
     Kansas, MO       83.16 ms    0.0%    1940.62 Mbps   3286.93 Mbps   Nocix - Kansas City, MO 
     Minneapolis, MN  57.55 ms    0.0%    3016.36 Mbps   4767.44 Mbps   US Internet - Minneapolis, MN 
     Chicago, IL      49.60 ms    0.0%    3000.01 Mbps   4199.52 Mbps   Hivelocity - Chicago, IL 
     Cleveland, OH    79.90 ms    0.0%    2561.65 Mbps   1050.06 Mbps   Cleveland Broadband - Cleveland, OH 
     Albuquerque, NM  49.07 ms    N/A     2867.72 Mbps   1823.44 Mbps   Comcast - Albuquerque, NM 
     Denver, CO       63.10 ms    0.0%    3481.92 Mbps   1426.06 Mbps   T-Mobile Fiber | Intrepid - Denver, CO 
     Portland, OR     11.52 ms    N/A     3035.26 Mbps   5171.12 Mbps   CenturyLink - Portland, OR 
     Las Vegas, NV    37.05 ms    N/A     2957.60 Mbps   2320.56 Mbps   Boost Mobile - Las Vegas, NV 
     Salt Lake, UT    53.88 ms    N/A     2543.88 Mbps   3311.05 Mbps   Novva Data Centers - Salt Lake City, UT 
     Phoenix, AZ      47.63 ms    0.0%    3290.60 Mbps   1825.23 Mbps   Xiber LLC - Phoenix, AZ 
     Los Angeles, CA  34.76 ms    0.0%    3273.23 Mbps   2557.26 Mbps   ReliableSite Hosting - Los Angeles, CA 
     San Jose, CA     29.10 ms    0.0%    3185.95 Mbps   4425.79 Mbps   Misaka Network, Inc. - San Jose, CA 
     Spokane, WA      0.39 ms     0.0%    3511.43 Mbps   5132.36 Mbps   Crunchbits - Spokane, WA 
     Seattle, WA      8.18 ms     0.0%    3540.79 Mbps   4619.21 Mbps   Misaka Network, Inc. - Seattle, WA 
    
     Hermosillo, MX   64.02 ms    0.0%    2535.15 Mbps   1272.14 Mbps   Megacable - Hermosillo 
     Guadalajara, MX  92.21 ms    0.0%    1881.71 Mbps   633.58 Mbps    AT&T México - Guadalajara 
     Mexico City, MX  72.54 ms    N/A     3022.83 Mbps   1243.50 Mbps   INFINITUM - Ciudad de México 
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Avg DL Speed       : 2884.94 Mbps
     Avg UL Speed       : 2598.00 Mbps
    
     Total DL Data      : 118.80 GB
     Total UL Data      : 107.37 GB
     Total Data         : 226.17 GB
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Duration           : 13 min 7 sec
     System Time        : 15/03/2025 - 21:46:47 GMT
     Total Script Runs  : 101653
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Result             : https://result.nws.sh/r/1742075087_RRVKZ8_NA.txt
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
  • fatchanfatchan Member, Host Rep

    @MannDude said:

    VM is supposed to be capped at 5Gbps in VirtFusion, so not sure why it's pulling 5.x+ Gbps down in some locations.

    Depending how fast it samples and calculates the average, and since the speedtests at >1g are very quick, the speed might appear higher than expected when done in short bursts. Have you tried iperf to somewhere close and graphing the speed?

  • @MannDude said:
    Testing some new plans out.

    On these new nodes, we have enabled Secure Memory Encryption (SME) by default. This is an AMD Epyc security feature that offers some physical memory encryption on the host node.

    For individual VMs, we're testing SEV-ES, which may be an optional opt-in feature at an added cost. Doesn't seem like we can automate the process and there are some limitations. Additionally, at least on the node I am using for testing, we'd be limited to X number of VMs that we could apply this to. While all of the components are there to support it at the host level, I'm having some difficulty getting VirtFusion to play nicely when trying to enable it on an individual VM.

    It's late and I'm tired so I asked Claude to create a quick blurb comparing the two features.

    SME (Secure Memory Encryption)
    SME provides foundational security by encrypting all physical memory on the host server. For VPS users, this means your data stored in RAM is protected against physical access attacks, reducing the risk of data theft through memory interception. This transparent protection works without configuration changes or performance impact, creating an essential baseline security layer for your virtual server's operational data.

    SEV-ES (Secure Encrypted Virtualization - Encrypted State)
    SEV-ES elevates your VPS security to confidential computing status by encrypting your VM's memory and CPU state from the hypervisor itself. This means your sensitive operations, encryption keys, and data processing remain private even from the host provider, offering cryptographic isolation rather than trust-based security. For businesses handling sensitive information, SEV-ES transforms your VPS from a rented space to a private vault where not even the landlord holds the keys.

    So, if I get SEV-ES working without much headache it'll likely be an opt-in feature. Can't enable it by default for everyone because of some host node BIOS restrictions, in that I'm limited in the number of VMs it can apply to and there are some caveats like the VMs can not be live migrated, not all VM OS options will work but the major ones should (Debian, Ubuntu, etc), I don't believe snapshots can be made, but this is something I'll have to test, there is a performance impact expected but it's something that will need to be tested and measured. I've got some empty nodes sitting in WA that I can compare dev VMs on... In any case, it's something I am looking more into and researching. It'll be a great option for those who use LUKS encryption and are paranoid about their keys getting dumped from memory, for example. (SME by itself doesn't protect against this)

    Anyway, we're designing some new VPS plans. All existing customers will keep their plans, but they may be discontinued. They'll just be marked as "legacy" plans. One of the new plans is shown below... Not a low end plan but it's what I've been playing with in testing.

    root@fruitful-draft:~# curl -sL https://yabs.sh | bash
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2025-01-01                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Sat Mar 15 09:07:38 PM GMT 2025
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 7371 16-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 8 @ 3099.994 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 31.3 GiB
    Swap       : 0.0 KiB
    Disk       : 399.9 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-32-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : IncogNET LLC
    ASN        : AS210630 IncogNET LLC
    Host       : Incognet LLC
    Location   : Liberty Lake, Washington (WA)
    Country    : United States
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda3):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 355.94 MB/s  (88.9k) | 1.96 GB/s    (30.7k)
    Write      | 356.88 MB/s  (89.2k) | 1.97 GB/s    (30.9k)
    Total      | 712.83 MB/s (178.2k) | 3.94 GB/s    (61.7k)
               |                      |                     
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 2.46 GB/s     (4.8k) | 2.64 GB/s     (2.5k)
    Write      | 2.59 GB/s     (5.0k) | 2.81 GB/s     (2.7k)
    Total      | 5.05 GB/s     (9.8k) | 5.46 GB/s     (5.3k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.25 Gbits/sec  | 767 Mbits/sec   | 142 ms         
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 4.08 Gbits/sec  | 1.68 Gbits/sec  | 164 ms         
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.72 Gbits/sec  | 775 Mbits/sec   | 226 ms         
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 2.59 Gbits/sec  | 1.73 Gbits/sec  | --             
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 5.29 Gbits/sec  | 2.87 Gbits/sec  | 35.5 ms        
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 5.13 Gbits/sec  | 2.42 Gbits/sec  | 71.2 ms        
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 2.99 Gbits/sec  | 828 Mbits/sec   | 190 ms         
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
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    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | busy            | 1.20 Gbits/sec  | 140 ms         
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 3.49 Gbits/sec  | 2.61 Gbits/sec  | 169 ms         
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.64 Gbits/sec  | 616 Mbits/sec   | 226 ms         
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | busy            | busy            | --             
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 5.32 Gbits/sec  | 2.48 Gbits/sec  | 35.7 ms        
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 5.09 Gbits/sec  | 2.53 Gbits/sec  | 71.3 ms        
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 2.92 Gbits/sec  | 745 Mbits/sec   | 190 ms         
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
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    Test            | Value                         
                    |                               
    Single Core     | 1227                          
    Multi Core      | 5158                          
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/11044897
    
    YABS completed in 15 min 43 sec
    
    

    Network:

    VM is supposed to be capped at 5Gbps in VirtFusion, so not sure why it's pulling 5.x+ Gbps down in some locations. Host node has a 10G NIC I can max out if I test at the host level, so seems the throughput limit may not be set properly in VF. (Though it does appear correct, so who knows)

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     Global Speedtest   : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash
     Region Speedtest   : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash -s -- -r <region>
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     Basic System Info
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     CPU Model          : AMD EPYC 7371 16-Core Processor
     CPU Cores          : 8 @ 3099.994 MHz
     CPU Cache          : 512 KB
     AES-NI             : ✔ Enabled
     VM-x/AMD-V         : ✔ Enabled
     Total Disk         : 399.9 GB (8.7 GB Used)
     Total RAM          : 31.3 GB (568.3 MB Used)
     System uptime      : 0 days, 0 hour 26 min
     Load average       : 0.00, 0.12, 0.24
     OS                 : Debian GNU/Linux 12
     Arch               : x86_64 (64 Bit)
     Kernel             : 6.1.0-32-amd64
     Virtualization     : KVM
     TCP Control        : bbr
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     Basic Network Info
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     Primary Network    : IPv6
     IPv6 Access        : ✔ Online
     IPv4 Access        : ✔ Online
     ISP                : IncogNET LLC
     ASN                : AS210630 IncogNET LLC
     Host               : Incognet LLC
     Location           : Liberty Lake, Washington-WA, United States
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     Location         Latency     Loss    DL Speed       UP Speed       Server      
    
     ISP: IncogNET 
    
     Nearest          0.56 ms     0.0%    3515.43 Mbps   5227.20 Mbps   Crunchbits - Spokane, WA 
    
     Vancouver, BC    11.17 ms    N/A     3369.24 Mbps   5775.87 Mbps   TELUS - Vancouver, BC 
     Calgary, AB      27.26 ms    N/A     3163.42 Mbps   3343.98 Mbps   Shaw Communications - Calgary, AB 
     Winnipeg, MB     38.35 ms    0.0%    3146.89 Mbps   2170.31 Mbps   Voyageur Internet - Winnipeg, MB 
     Toronto, ON      71.76 ms    0.0%    2869.36 Mbps   1219.49 Mbps   Bell Canada - Toronto, ON 
     Montreal, QC     83.93 ms    0.0%    2577.44 Mbps   1160.10 Mbps   Rogers Wireless - Montréal, QC 
    
     New York, NY     73.85 ms    0.0%    2612.88 Mbps   1201.75 Mbps   Surfshark Ltd - New York, NY 
     Ashburn, VA      72.37 ms    0.0%    1669.03 Mbps   1190.98 Mbps   Rackdog - Ashburn, VA 
     Durham, NC       75.33 ms    0.0%    2417.68 Mbps   1161.81 Mbps   Spectrum - Durham, NC 
     Atlanta, GA      88.56 ms    0.0%    2081.62 Mbps   1049.97 Mbps   Clouvider Ltd - Atlanta, GA 
     Miami, FL        74.63 ms    0.0%    2980.57 Mbps   1197.39 Mbps   ReliableSite Hosting - Miami, FL 
     Dallas, TX       63.11 ms    0.0%    3392.14 Mbps   2779.50 Mbps   Hivelocity - Dallas, TX 
     Houston, TX      63.46 ms    N/A     3105.93 Mbps   1396.19 Mbps   Comcast - Houston, TX 
     Kansas, MO       83.16 ms    0.0%    1940.62 Mbps   3286.93 Mbps   Nocix - Kansas City, MO 
     Minneapolis, MN  57.55 ms    0.0%    3016.36 Mbps   4767.44 Mbps   US Internet - Minneapolis, MN 
     Chicago, IL      49.60 ms    0.0%    3000.01 Mbps   4199.52 Mbps   Hivelocity - Chicago, IL 
     Cleveland, OH    79.90 ms    0.0%    2561.65 Mbps   1050.06 Mbps   Cleveland Broadband - Cleveland, OH 
     Albuquerque, NM  49.07 ms    N/A     2867.72 Mbps   1823.44 Mbps   Comcast - Albuquerque, NM 
     Denver, CO       63.10 ms    0.0%    3481.92 Mbps   1426.06 Mbps   T-Mobile Fiber | Intrepid - Denver, CO 
     Portland, OR     11.52 ms    N/A     3035.26 Mbps   5171.12 Mbps   CenturyLink - Portland, OR 
     Las Vegas, NV    37.05 ms    N/A     2957.60 Mbps   2320.56 Mbps   Boost Mobile - Las Vegas, NV 
     Salt Lake, UT    53.88 ms    N/A     2543.88 Mbps   3311.05 Mbps   Novva Data Centers - Salt Lake City, UT 
     Phoenix, AZ      47.63 ms    0.0%    3290.60 Mbps   1825.23 Mbps   Xiber LLC - Phoenix, AZ 
     Los Angeles, CA  34.76 ms    0.0%    3273.23 Mbps   2557.26 Mbps   ReliableSite Hosting - Los Angeles, CA 
     San Jose, CA     29.10 ms    0.0%    3185.95 Mbps   4425.79 Mbps   Misaka Network, Inc. - San Jose, CA 
     Spokane, WA      0.39 ms     0.0%    3511.43 Mbps   5132.36 Mbps   Crunchbits - Spokane, WA 
     Seattle, WA      8.18 ms     0.0%    3540.79 Mbps   4619.21 Mbps   Misaka Network, Inc. - Seattle, WA 
    
     Hermosillo, MX   64.02 ms    0.0%    2535.15 Mbps   1272.14 Mbps   Megacable - Hermosillo 
     Guadalajara, MX  92.21 ms    0.0%    1881.71 Mbps   633.58 Mbps    AT&T México - Guadalajara 
     Mexico City, MX  72.54 ms    N/A     3022.83 Mbps   1243.50 Mbps   INFINITUM - Ciudad de México 
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     Avg DL Speed       : 2884.94 Mbps
     Avg UL Speed       : 2598.00 Mbps
    
     Total DL Data      : 118.80 GB
     Total UL Data      : 107.37 GB
     Total Data         : 226.17 GB
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    Will prices remain in the same range as they are now? Or will we expect increases?

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited March 2025

    @10thHouse said:

    Will prices remain in the same range as they are now? Or will we expect increases?

    There will be pricing adjustments, but only for the new plans. I've done a bit of napkin math and it's hard to compare the new plans 1:1 to the existing plans since some resource allocations are a bit different, but there will be an increase for some. Our pricing and resource limits (CPU/RAM/DISK/BW) has remained the same for the last 4 years, with the only adjustments being us increasing the port speed from the original 1Gbps to 5Gbps across the board and adding some features like offsite snapshots.

    After some intensive node auditing, I've seen where we could have designed our plans slightly differently to make better use of the hardware configurations we use, which is pretty standardized across all locations with some minor variations here and there.

    I'll still run some promos, but as it is now, most of our sales and revenue stems from our advertised, non-discounted, website pricing. I'll certainly release some promotional offers once we get these new plans finalized and share them on LET.

    HOWEVER, existing plans will just simply no longer be sold but will otherwise remain available to those who already purchased them. No one with an existing plan is having their price increased. We may offer some nice incentives to get people to self-migrate to the new plans and new system, should they want to, but we'll see. Nothing is entirely set in stone just yet.

  • @MannDude said:

    @10thHouse said:

    Will prices remain in the same range as they are now? Or will we expect increases?

    There will be pricing adjustments, but only for the new plans. I've done a bit of napkin math and it's hard to compare the new plans 1:1 to the existing plans since some resource allocations are a bit different, but there will be an increase for some. Our pricing and resource limits (CPU/RAM/DISK/BW) has remained the same for the last 4 years, with the only adjustments being us increasing the port speed from the original 1Gbps to 5Gbps across the board and adding some features like offsite snapshots.

    After some intensive node auditing, I've seen where we could have designed our plans slightly differently to make better use of the hardware configurations we use, which is pretty standardized across all locations with some minor variations here and there.

    I'll still run some promos, but as it is now, most of our sales and revenue stems from our advertised, non-discounted, website pricing. I'll certainly release some promotional offers once we get these new plans finalized and share them on LET.

    HOWEVER, existing plans will just simply no longer be sold but will otherwise remain available to those who already purchased them. No one with an existing plan is having their price increased. We may offer some nice incentives to get people to self-migrate to the new plans and new system, should they want to, but we'll see. Nothing is entirely set in stone just yet.

    Is IncogNET mostly spread through word of mouth? I hardly see you advertise anywhere outside here and LES.

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    @10thHouse said:

    @MannDude said:

    @10thHouse said:

    Will prices remain in the same range as they are now? Or will we expect increases?

    There will be pricing adjustments, but only for the new plans. I've done a bit of napkin math and it's hard to compare the new plans 1:1 to the existing plans since some resource allocations are a bit different, but there will be an increase for some. Our pricing and resource limits (CPU/RAM/DISK/BW) has remained the same for the last 4 years, with the only adjustments being us increasing the port speed from the original 1Gbps to 5Gbps across the board and adding some features like offsite snapshots.

    After some intensive node auditing, I've seen where we could have designed our plans slightly differently to make better use of the hardware configurations we use, which is pretty standardized across all locations with some minor variations here and there.

    I'll still run some promos, but as it is now, most of our sales and revenue stems from our advertised, non-discounted, website pricing. I'll certainly release some promotional offers once we get these new plans finalized and share them on LET.

    HOWEVER, existing plans will just simply no longer be sold but will otherwise remain available to those who already purchased them. No one with an existing plan is having their price increased. We may offer some nice incentives to get people to self-migrate to the new plans and new system, should they want to, but we'll see. Nothing is entirely set in stone just yet.

    Is IncogNET mostly spread through word of mouth? I hardly see you advertise anywhere outside here and LES.

    Yeah, basically. Plus organic leads through search engines. Only places I've really ever advertised as of recent was Monerica, and I'll renew my ad spot with them once I get new stock setup.

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  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    Also, still messing with some new plans. Some plans will actually be cheaper but may slightly different resources than what is available now, some may be more expensive but offer more of a different resource.

    Just trying to balance things out and make sure things are priced reasonably and on par with what is common outside of the niche lowend markets.

  • wadhahwadhah Member, Host Rep

    @MannDude said:
    Also, still messing with some new plans. Some plans will actually be cheaper but may slightly different resources than what is available now, some may be more expensive but offer more of a different resource.

    Just trying to balance things out and make sure things are priced reasonably and on par with what is common outside of the niche lowend markets.

    Take your time and don't rush thing. Don't forget to breath and take breaks to clear your mind and change your prespective.

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    image

    Works pretty well. Making some final UI tweaks to the output and the sysctl.conf configuration tool should be live. I've been really into tweaking systctl.conf the last few months on my own personal boxes for specific use cases and have found that it does make a difference, especially so when it comes to network performance. Figured I'd make a public tool to help others, too. Page will also include additional, general information about sysctl.conf and the configurable values. Should be informative, at the very least.

    The tool has our new (not yet on our site or public) plans as available options to select, but for those without an IncogNET service or a server that doesn't closely match one of our pre-configured plans, you can enter your RAM (64MB to 2TB), CPU (1 core to 256) and port speed (1Gbps to 100Gbps).

    The rest is pretty self-explanatory based on the screenshot.

    image

    Still a work in progress. I need to run some of the logic through Claude or something because it seems to be 'slightly off' what I'd expect for some values for certain RAID array types. Will support RAID-0, RAID-1, RAID-5, RAID-6, RAID-10 configs which are all pretty standard. Will support nested RAID RAID-50 and RAID-60 as well as ZFS RAID levels like RAID-Z1, RAID-Z2 and RAID-Z3.

    You enter the number of disks. You enter the size. You enter the RAID type. It will give you a good idea of what to expect in terms of usable storage capacity, fault tolerance and performance.

    Also have a Tor Relay torrc file configuration tool in the works, but I've not added any styling elements. Basically just a tool to make it easier/quicker to setup a Tor Relay or Exit with some configurable options that one can set based on the server they're running it on.

  • Looks great.

    @MannDude said: The rest is pretty self-explanatory based on the screenshot.

    Despite the pretty wizard, customers are still responsible for quite a bit of upkeep after setup. Correct? That is why I've never bothered.

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  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    @Turbo_Pascal said:
    Looks great.

    @MannDude said: The rest is pretty self-explanatory based on the screenshot.

    Despite the pretty wizard, customers are still responsible for quite a bit of upkeep after setup. Correct? That is why I've never bothered.

    Yeah, it's more of a jumping off point and may present some issues with certain software stacks. But I'll add a bunch of disclaimers and warnings and "this may break stuff" notices. Backup, test, tweak, etc.

    It's gives more ballpark figures than anything.

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited March 2025

    image

    Some new deals will be available soon. Will be WA only because that is where I actually have a few empty and spare nodes sitting around at the moment.

    We turn 4 next month, so these are big celebratory deals. You won't want to miss these. :)

  • @MannDude is there even the slightest possibility that Naaldwijk can get a deal or two? pretty please

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  • zedzed Member

    @MannDude said: We turn 4 next month

    Wow time flies man, very cool <3

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  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    @oriend said:
    @MannDude is there even the slightest possibility that Naaldwijk can get a deal or two? pretty please

    No... No capacity. Will be moving to AMS proper in the next month or so, but even then, just ordered enough hardware to move customers but not onboard more there. NL will be a few months out, I'd assume.

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  • @MannDude any chances of $7 or $3 dealz [yearly], I have made an account like 5-6 months ago and ain't got no deal :smile: plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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