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Ticket for opening SMTP port - questions from the hoster
Some hosters will open SMTP port by request. Otherwise - with a few questions. One of the hosters asked me these: "how many emails per day/month", "are your users aware that you'll be sending them ...", "are they consent", "is there unsubscribe link".
For the moment, I want to send transactions emails only. Sometimes cold outreach emails as well. Not a lot. Let's say, a few dozen ... under a hundred per day.
Later I may begin to send a newslatter as well.
Some of the questions are even impossible to answer at this stage, because there're no proper users. For now.
How to safely deal with this bureaucracy? To avoid blunt lie, yet give me some room, make it more generic and on the safe side.
And I have no idea whatsoever about the volume, per day, per month. What if I give them a number which, later one, may turn out to be too low?
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Buy a plan from @jar at mxroute.com, configure it and call it a day.
Answer honestly. You could write to them exactly what you wrote here.
But @Petey_Long has the best answer.
That’s called spam.
I’ll pass
If you sign up for many other delivery services, such as Amazon SES, you'll be required to submit plans as well, even more specific plans. If you cannot answer in details, or, say you'll send "cold outreach," it'll be a straight rejection.
I see no problem when a provider wants to keep their IP clean, and it's good to know that the email provider I'm using has certain procedures in place to keep their IP clean.
Who you gonna send emails to?
I don't know. Perhaps to people. Not?
You haven't understood my question. I didn't ask how to set up MTA, or how to find a way to send emails from VPS.
I asked how to answer the questions from the that particular hoster.
Don't spam in my topic. Because you don't know me personally, nor did I ask you personally.
Therefore, you answer, by your own logic, is unsolicited and hence spam.
I didn't ask about that.
Really? What a surprise? Clean IP? Who would have thought?
And how am I able to run emails with other hosters without any questions?
You haven't answered my question. You've answered your own, from in your head.
Hello and welcome to a public internet forum. You do not own the thread or have any say in who replies to it.
Thanks for joining my internet tutorial 101, in the next tutorial we will be talking about the importance of not being an asshole.
They don't need an honest answer. They need the one that satisfies them, according to their policies and rules.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
lol
3 days later
" HOST STOLE MY MONEY BECAUSE I SENT A FEW EMAILS!!!!! SCAMMERS! WTF?!?!? REFOUND ME NOW!"
The one who has no idea what they're talking about is sitting in your chair.
You simply need to be honest with your provider.
I will be sending .... now and in the future I plan to send ....
I obtain the email address eg from sign up to news letter on my website, placing orders, company partnerships for marketing.
If you try to tell lies to a provider 99% of the time it comes back, bites you on the arse and because you also lied to the provider from the start they have more chance of tell you to move on and keeping your payments and probably listing you on sites like fraudrecord and a few others.
OP has no clue about his project.
He has no clue who will be his audience.
He has no clue even for rough estimates.
.... And he blames others for not understanding his need.
Dude, do YOU know what you want first? You don't want to give honest reply. You want to give what they want.... But if you go that route, you'll be shutdown in no time.
But you can't be honest because you don't know about the subject.
Can you see how we are in a loop?
So in other words you're saying you are allowed to do something illegal as long as you make up a lie that is legal?
Mr Cop I didn't rob that house! I just knocked on the door and left, all this stuff in my truck is from a friend down the street!
So, spammer wanna spam. Poor provider who will get such customer. But it is business risk.
Stop disrespecting this community. People tried answering and giving legit answers. You even disrespected someone who's servers sends more mail in a day than you will ever receive in your life.
I simply don't understand why you couldn't be honest with the provider. It's like you are asking us for good lies to tell them and throwing away anything that's too honest.
You were being recommended a third party mail service because even if you answer those questions to their satisfaction, complaints can be received leading to disrupted service. This is not some kind of contract to your benefit, it might be used against you as documentation to close out your service.
On the other hand if they don't accept your answers this would be the only solution.
I assume you don't use the term "bureaucracy" in a negative light because there is an entirely valid reason you are being asked those questions: liability. Answer honestly, describe your projected needs and don't spam.
Good luck!
This is a responsible hoster if they ask such questions.
But even with a hundred emails, you can easily end up in Spamhaus.
If you're not doing this professionally, it's better to use Amazon SES.
Wow @jar
Wow @jar
This thread is a lesson.
Huuuuh. Yeah. Very indicative thread.
You're worried for me then? What could happen. Don't. That's none of your business. And that's would my headache.
And I've been running emails on other 2 VPS for some 5 years.
Apply that same logic to emails. You don't own the internet or have a say in who sends emails your way.
Stop disrespecting the author of the question! Stop throwing shit at him.
Stop asking how to spam, dirtbag.