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  • sanvitsanvit Member

    @Gulf said:

    @hyperblast said:
    I was told it will be .nl!

    .nl has some global filtering, thanks to leaseweb and similar spam heavens :D
    .ae / .sa have good domestic delivery, but global delivery is terrible. mails from .ae are filtered by default.
    so better stick with .us for better delivery, but you may receive messages anywhere though, .nl ets, doesn't matter.

    Don’t they use the same in/outbound relay/filters for all of the servers/location? Or will the deliverability change based on the server location?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @sanvit said:

    @Gulf said:

    @hyperblast said:
    I was told it will be .nl!

    .nl has some global filtering, thanks to leaseweb and similar spam heavens :D
    .ae / .sa have good domestic delivery, but global delivery is terrible. mails from .ae are filtered by default.
    so better stick with .us for better delivery, but you may receive messages anywhere though, .nl ets, doesn't matter.

    Don’t they use the same in/outbound relay/filters for all of the servers/location? Or will the deliverability change based on the server location?

    We do. What he’s saying is that some countries get auto downgraded in anti spam systems because of too many dirty asns. Other countries have companies that outright block outside emails all together.

    Francisco

    Thanked by 1sanvit
  • SocheatSocheat Member

    Money is short right now. Hope the price will at least stays at $69.42 for a while. The lifetime deal is pretty nice.

    Thanked by 2COLBYLICIOUS hyperblast
  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran
    edited January 2025

    @dedipromo said:

    @Francisco said:

    @bikrama said:
    @Francisco is there any way to see how many each email id has sent? Like we have two email ids sales and support but we want to see stats like how many email sales email sent and how many emails support email sent. Now as per my finding we can only see whole domain stats.

    As the domain admin you can generate reports that should include that.

    Question to everyone. We are looking to offer activesync/eas as a paid addon. Probably around $3/year per inbox.

    We can’t do it for free or bake in since it requires licensing be paid per inbox (not per domain, per inbox).

    We know there is things like zpush but I’m not sure how good it is or if I want to try side loading it with smartermail.

    $3/year is not much. But out of curiosity, what would be the expected delay time if EAS is enabled? Asking because my Android mail app pulls IMAP update in the background every 5 minutes. If EAS/ActiveSync pushes emails on the order of a few seconds, I'd be very interested; but if it has ~ 1 min delay, then probably not that useful.

    @sliix said:
    $3 - $5/year is a no brainer I’ll take it for sure for time sensitive inboxes.

    Even happier if zpush works well during the test though 😉

    @TimboJones said:

    @Francisco said:
    EAS is basically instant and that’s how fast this would be.

    Francisco

    Doesn't imap idle basically make this a non-issue these days? I recall the days my BlackBerry beat all, but nowadays, when there's a new email, my phone and gmail pretty much alert in seconds.

    @multi too.

    We have zpush setup, just autodiscover isn’t happy yet. Avg timers are around 20s from sent from gmail to iPhone push. It’s not as fast as native activesync, but are people willing to pay to shave that time? You tell me.

    We need to get contacts and the calendar syncing on zpush too, but that’s just some config files.

    Someone said their “from” was a bit derpy so I’ll research and test that.

    Let me know.

    Francisco

  • GulfGulf Member

    @sanvit said:
    Don’t they use the same in/outbound relay/filters for all of the servers/location? Or will the deliverability change based on the server location?

    Yes, if you ban .nl, you won't lose much, except large amount of spam. However, some gov/semi-gov orgs in NL restrict mail to their own country.

    But if you ban the USA, it will be bad. Because MS and Gmail send from the US only.

  • hqinhqin Member

    Could I host the normal sites on Email Hosting?
    and where is the Email hosting location, any IP to test?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @hqin said:

    Could I host the normal sites on Email Hosting?
    and where is the Email hosting location, any IP to test?

    No.

    You can ping us1.workspace.org.

    Francisco

  • ServerBachelorServerBachelor Member

    How does XMPP/Jabber work with CraneMail?

  • dedipromodedipromo Member

    @Francisco said:

    @dedipromo said:

    @Francisco said:

    bikrama said:
    @Francisco is there any way to see how many each email id has sent? Like we have two email ids sales and support but we want to see stats like how many email sales email sent and how many emails support email sent. Now as per my finding we can only see whole domain stats.

    As the domain admin you can generate reports that should include that.

    Question to everyone. We are looking to offer activesync/eas as a paid addon. Probably around $3/year per inbox.

    We can’t do it for free or bake in since it requires licensing be paid per inbox (not per domain, per inbox).

    We know there is things like zpush but I’m not sure how good it is or if I want to try side loading it with smartermail.

    $3/year is not much. But out of curiosity, what would be the expected delay time if EAS is enabled? Asking because my Android mail app pulls IMAP update in the background every 5 minutes. If EAS/ActiveSync pushes emails on the order of a few seconds, I'd be very interested; but if it has ~ 1 min delay, then probably not that useful.

    sliix said:
    $3 - $5/year is a no brainer I’ll take it for sure for time sensitive inboxes.

    Even happier if zpush works well during the test though 😉

    TimboJones said:

    @Francisco said:
    EAS is basically instant and that’s how fast this would be.

    Francisco

    Doesn't imap idle basically make this a non-issue these days? I recall the days my BlackBerry beat all, but nowadays, when there's a new email, my phone and gmail pretty much alert in seconds.

    multi too.

    We have zpush setup, just autodiscover isn’t happy yet. Avg timers are around 20s from sent from gmail to iPhone push. It’s not as fast as native activesync, but are people willing to pay to shave that time? You tell me.

    We need to get contacts and the calendar syncing on zpush too, but that’s just some config files.

    Someone said their “from” was a bit derpy so I’ll research and test that.

    Let me know.

    Francisco

    20 s is already faster than I expected and already good enough. Great work!

    Thanked by 1kkrajk
  • sanvitsanvit Member

    @Francisco said:

    @dedipromo said:

    @Francisco said:

    @bikrama said:
    @Francisco is there any way to see how many each email id has sent? Like we have two email ids sales and support but we want to see stats like how many email sales email sent and how many emails support email sent. Now as per my finding we can only see whole domain stats.

    As the domain admin you can generate reports that should include that.

    Question to everyone. We are looking to offer activesync/eas as a paid addon. Probably around $3/year per inbox.

    We can’t do it for free or bake in since it requires licensing be paid per inbox (not per domain, per inbox).

    We know there is things like zpush but I’m not sure how good it is or if I want to try side loading it with smartermail.

    $3/year is not much. But out of curiosity, what would be the expected delay time if EAS is enabled? Asking because my Android mail app pulls IMAP update in the background every 5 minutes. If EAS/ActiveSync pushes emails on the order of a few seconds, I'd be very interested; but if it has ~ 1 min delay, then probably not that useful.

    @sliix said:
    $3 - $5/year is a no brainer I’ll take it for sure for time sensitive inboxes.

    Even happier if zpush works well during the test though 😉

    @TimboJones said:

    @Francisco said:
    EAS is basically instant and that’s how fast this would be.

    Francisco

    Doesn't imap idle basically make this a non-issue these days? I recall the days my BlackBerry beat all, but nowadays, when there's a new email, my phone and gmail pretty much alert in seconds.

    @multi too.

    We have zpush setup, just autodiscover isn’t happy yet. Avg timers are around 20s from sent from gmail to iPhone push. It’s not as fast as native activesync, but are people willing to pay to shave that time? You tell me.

    We need to get contacts and the calendar syncing on zpush too, but that’s just some config files.

    Someone said their “from” was a bit derpy so I’ll research and test that.

    Let me know.

    Francisco

    Yup I'd choose the 20s delayed free version over the $3-5/mailbox fee (yeah I know that price is also very cheap, but still) every time

    Thanked by 1kkrajk
  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @sanvit @dedipromo :)

    I'll work on the rest of the integrations.

    Always open to more feedback on this.

    Francisco

    Thanked by 3sanvit dedipromo Multi
  • raza19raza19 Veteran

    @Francisco said:
    @sanvit @dedipromo :)

    I'll work on the rest of the integrations.

    Always open to more feedback on this.

    Francisco

    I see a multi million dollar yacht in Fran's future with all the money he is going to make in the domain business :D

  • sliixsliix Member

    I agree. At 20 seconds delay, I think that will be more than fine.

    Thanked by 1Francisco
  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    rclone has been recompiled to support mount on both Windows & Mac :)

    https://github.com/namecrane/rclone/releases/tag/1.0.1

    Francisco

    Thanked by 4sliix Ympker eb1995 kkrajk
  • ServerBachelorServerBachelor Member

    @ServerBachelor said:
    How does XMPP/Jabber work with CraneMail?

    “ Voice/Video/Text chat (XMPP/Jabber) with external client support, file sharing w/ previews”

    What does this mean @Francisco?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @ServerBachelor said:

    @ServerBachelor said:
    How does XMPP/Jabber work with CraneMail?

    “ Voice/Video/Text chat (XMPP/Jabber) with external client support, file sharing w/ previews”

    What does this mean @Francisco?

    You can use an xmpp client to connect to it and talk to the other users on your domain.

    Em client has it all built in.

    Francisco

    Thanked by 1ServerBachelor
  • hyperblasthyperblast Member

    @Gulf said:

    @sanvit said:
    Don’t they use the same in/outbound relay/filters for all of the servers/location? Or will the deliverability change based on the server location?

    Yes, if you ban .nl, you won't lose much, except large amount of spam. However, some gov/semi-gov orgs in NL restrict mail to their own country.

    But if you ban the USA, it will be bad. Because MS and Gmail send from the US only.

    does this mean that nl was/is not a strategically good decision for cranemail?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran
    edited January 2025

    @hyperblast said:

    @Gulf said:

    @sanvit said:
    Don’t they use the same in/outbound relay/filters for all of the servers/location? Or will the deliverability change based on the server location?

    Yes, if you ban .nl, you won't lose much, except large amount of spam. However, some gov/semi-gov orgs in NL restrict mail to their own country.

    But if you ban the USA, it will be bad. Because MS and Gmail send from the US only.

    does this mean that nl was/is not a strategically good decision for cranemail?

    It’s just fine. All of our outgoing relay servers are in the US.

    Francisco

  • hyperblasthyperblast Member

    @sliix said:
    I agree. At 20 seconds delay, I think that will be more than fine.

    it's more than 19 seconds lost on delivery ;)

    but the option for immediate delivery for 3$/year is a fair option.

    i'm wondering whether nl is the optimal location for cranemail (see above).

    Thanked by 1sliix
  • hyperblasthyperblast Member

    @Francisco said:

    @hyperblast said:

    @Gulf said:

    @sanvit said:
    Don’t they use the same in/outbound relay/filters for all of the servers/location? Or will the deliverability change based on the server location?

    Yes, if you ban .nl, you won't lose much, except large amount of spam. However, some gov/semi-gov orgs in NL restrict mail to their own country.

    But if you ban the USA, it will be bad. Because MS and Gmail send from the US only.

    does this mean that nl was/is not a strategically good decision for cranemail?

    It’s just fine. All of our outgoing relay servers are in the US.

    Francisco

    and that doesn't pose any problems with eu data protection regulations? ;)

    would outgoing relay servers in the eu in another stable country (e.g. ch) also be an option?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @hyperblast said:

    @Francisco said:

    @hyperblast said:

    @Gulf said:

    @sanvit said:
    Don’t they use the same in/outbound relay/filters for all of the servers/location? Or will the deliverability change based on the server location?

    Yes, if you ban .nl, you won't lose much, except large amount of spam. However, some gov/semi-gov orgs in NL restrict mail to their own country.

    But if you ban the USA, it will be bad. Because MS and Gmail send from the US only.

    does this mean that nl was/is not a strategically good decision for cranemail?

    It’s just fine. All of our outgoing relay servers are in the US.

    Francisco

    and that doesn't pose any problems with eu data protection regulations? ;)

    would outgoing relay servers in the eu in another stable country (e.g. ch) also be an option?

    We will def consider it when we need another ip block :)

    Francisco

    Thanked by 1hyperblast
  • sanvitsanvit Member

    @Francisco said:

    @hyperblast said:

    @Francisco said:

    @hyperblast said:

    @Gulf said:

    @sanvit said:
    Don’t they use the same in/outbound relay/filters for all of the servers/location? Or will the deliverability change based on the server location?

    Yes, if you ban .nl, you won't lose much, except large amount of spam. However, some gov/semi-gov orgs in NL restrict mail to their own country.

    But if you ban the USA, it will be bad. Because MS and Gmail send from the US only.

    does this mean that nl was/is not a strategically good decision for cranemail?

    It’s just fine. All of our outgoing relay servers are in the US.

    Francisco

    and that doesn't pose any problems with eu data protection regulations? ;)

    would outgoing relay servers in the eu in another stable country (e.g. ch) also be an option?

    We will def consider it when we need another ip block :)

    Francisco

    Maybe moving the outbound relay to EU would be an option as well, so all the servers can share the good IP reputation, while keeping everything in EU. iirc MC does something similar as well (they host it on Canada - for some reason it's different from hosting it in the U.S. i guess?)

    Thanked by 1hyperblast
  • hqinhqin Member

    @Francisco said:

    @hqin said:

    Could I host the normal sites on Email Hosting?
    and where is the Email hosting location, any IP to test?

    No.

    You can ping us1.workspace.org.

    Francisco

    Then could I host the Email Marketing Script (Acelle )?

    thank you

  • sanvitsanvit Member

    @hqin said:

    @Francisco said:

    @hqin said:

    Could I host the normal sites on Email Hosting?
    and where is the Email hosting location, any IP to test?

    No.

    You can ping us1.workspace.org.

    Francisco

    Then could I host the Email Marketing Script (Acelle )?

    thank you

    Please don’t ruin good things

  • COLBYLICIOUSCOLBYLICIOUS Member

    @hqin said:

    @Francisco said:

    @hqin said:

    Could I host the normal sites on Email Hosting?
    and where is the Email hosting location, any IP to test?

    No.

    You can ping us1.workspace.org.

    Francisco

    Then could I host the Email Marketing Script (Acelle )?

    thank you

    There we go...

  • MultiMulti Member

    @hqin said:

    @Francisco said:

    @hqin said:

    Could I host the normal sites on Email Hosting?
    and where is the Email hosting location, any IP to test?

    No.

    You can ping us1.workspace.org.

    Francisco

    Then could I host the Email Marketing Script (Acelle )?

    thank you

    I don't think spamming email marketing is a welcomed use case for this service.

    Thanked by 1COLBYLICIOUS
  • rcy026rcy026 Member

    @hqin said:

    Then could I host the Email Marketing Script (Acelle )?

    thank you

    This is why we can never have good things. Please don't ruin this!

    https://namecrane.com/legal/acceptable-use-policy

    1.2 - Unsolicited Communications

1,2,1 - Any email-based communications sent without the consent of the recipient.

1,2,2 - Knowingly permitting or initiating Unsolicited Communications is grounds for immediate termination, and a permanent ban from any future service.
  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @hqin said:

    @Francisco said:

    @hqin said:

    Could I host the normal sites on Email Hosting?
    and where is the Email hosting location, any IP to test?

    No.

    You can ping us1.workspace.org.

    Francisco

    Then could I host the Email Marketing Script (Acelle )?

    thank you

    Absolutely not.

    Francisco

    Thanked by 2eb1995 hyperblast
  • callynnecallynne Member

    I got the three year deal to ~test it out and I'm already super impressed.

    Am I able to upgrade to the Lifetime deal? Or do I need to make a separate purchase for that?

    Thank you!

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @callynne said:
    I got the three year deal to ~test it out and I'm already super impressed.

    Am I able to upgrade to the Lifetime deal? Or do I need to make a separate purchase for that?

    Thank you!

    We can credit you the full amount of the 3y plan towards a lifetime.

    Go ahead and ticket.

    Francisco

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