BuyVM Miami Storage Slab - Total cluster data loss

Levi · January 2025

Wait, is there still a BuyVM? They sold it to some cloud ai nonsense... Is it AI's fault to not monitor RAID and drives? Can AI be sued?

SirFoxy · January 2025

@acidpuke said:
Whats your quoting doesn't look like anything other then a personal conversation you had with him, you said "he is a smart man" obviously he is .. he sold his business and made some money what does it matter to you.

The problem arises when you’ve made deliberate attempts to mislead your customers and conceal the sale of your company.

January 2025 is quite far from May 2023.

ralf · January 2025

@SirFoxy said:

@ralf said:

@SirFoxy said:
😂 you literally just can’t stop fucking lying. You mean you had to sign a four year non-compete as usual when you sell your company.

Btw, BuyVM was sold in May of 2023 not January 2025, IPs and such remain under FEDcisco’s name during the duration because the goal was and is to give the impression FEDcisco is still involved, when it’s only in an absolutely minimal and temporary role to keep people buying their shit services.

Even if you're right, it's not really any of our business what their terms were.

FWIW, in the UK I've worked at places where previous directors signed 2 or 3 year agreements to stay at the company. 4 years sounds unusually long as most new owner want to exert their vision on the company sooner than that.

What I’m saying is factual, always has been as FEDcisco (an actual previous federal informant selling “freedom of speech” and “law of the land” hosting btw, cornball).

Again, my point still stands. This isn't any of our business.

@acidpuke said:
You sure have the hots for @Francisco, whats your end game with all this. I don't think anyone gives a fuck about what your saying.

I dislike FEDcisco out of personal convictions, yes. He’s a snake. The fact of the matter is FEDcisco has been lying and spinning webs for more than a year. But yes, I agree. He will continue to make money here. It’s not like most members of this forum do a lot of due diligence anyway, and it’s quite an echo chamber.

I know even less about the owners of OVH, Hetzner, GreenCloud, HostHatch, Clouvider, Hybula or any of the other providers I use. All I can realistically do is look for companies that have been in business for a certain number of years, don't have a reputation for screwing over their customers, and trust that their company will treat my company's business data responsibly. If their business is sold, I also trust that the new owner intends to run it as a viable business, or else why did they buy them? I haven't yet had any reason to doubt the above companies.

TBH, I don't especially care about freedom of speech or otherwise. I've selected BuyVM because of their advertised unlimited data and ddos protection for a reasonable price, which I use to filter and load balance connections on the way to my various backends. If they suddenly went rogue, I'd just remove it from DNS, remove the wireguard keys from its peers and treat it like any other machine that might have gone down.

SirFoxy · January 2025

@ralf said:

@SirFoxy said:

@ralf said:

@SirFoxy said:
😂 you literally just can’t stop fucking lying. You mean you had to sign a four year non-compete as usual when you sell your company.

Btw, BuyVM was sold in May of 2023 not January 2025, IPs and such remain under FEDcisco’s name during the duration because the goal was and is to give the impression FEDcisco is still involved, when it’s only in an absolutely minimal and temporary role to keep people buying their shit services.

Even if you're right, it's not really any of our business what their terms were.

FWIW, in the UK I've worked at places where previous directors signed 2 or 3 year agreements to stay at the company. 4 years sounds unusually long as most new owner want to exert their vision on the company sooner than that.

What I’m saying is factual, always has been as FEDcisco (an actual previous federal informant selling “freedom of speech” and “law of the land” hosting btw, cornball).

Again, my point still stands. This isn't any of our business.

@acidpuke said:
You sure have the hots for @Francisco, whats your end game with all this. I don't think anyone gives a fuck about what your saying.

I dislike FEDcisco out of personal convictions, yes. He’s a snake. The fact of the matter is FEDcisco has been lying and spinning webs for more than a year. But yes, I agree. He will continue to make money here. It’s not like most members of this forum do a lot of due diligence anyway, and it’s quite an echo chamber.

I know even less about the owners of OVH, Hetzner, GreenCloud, HostHatch, Clouvider, Hybula or any of the other providers I use. All I can realistically do is look for companies that have been in business for a certain number of years, don't have a reputation for screwing over their customers, and trust that their company will treat my company's business data responsibly. If their business is sold, I also trust that the new owner intends to run it as a viable business, or else why did they buy them? I haven't yet had any reason to doubt the above companies.

TBH, I don't especially care about freedom of speech or otherwise. I've selected BuyVM because of their advertised unlimited data and ddos protection for a reasonable price, which I use to filter and load balance connections on the way to my various backends. If they suddenly went rogue, I'd just remove it from DNS, remove the wireguard keys from its peers and treat it like any other machine that might have gone down.

Yeah dude, you’re welcome to use whoever you want. Just know that DDoS protection is Path and not even FEDcisco trusts them, but he sells it to his own customers because Cloudflare are “glowies.” Good guy btw.

apollo15 · January 2025

@SirFoxy said: I dislike FEDcisco out of personal convictions, yes. He’s a snake. The fact of the matter is FEDcisco has been lying and spinning webs for more than a year. But yes, I agree. He will continue to make money here. It’s not like most members of this forum do a lot of due diligence anyway, and it’s quite an echo chamber.

lol does it mean Chris from ChicagoVPS wasn't lying when he stated BuyVM was just a few servers sent to Buffalo?

it turns out Chris was not that bad after all

@CVPS_Chris still around?

apollo15 · January 2025

does anyone know what's the the Canadian company name they sell under? I suppose financial records should be public like it is for all USA / EU companies, Canada isn't offshore heaven.

SirFoxy · January 2025

@apollo15 said:
does anyone know what's the the Canadian company name they sell under? I suppose financial records should be public like it is for all USA / EU companies, Canada isn't offshore heaven.

I think FEDcisco intentionally avoids Canada because they provide you with less safe harbor laws (the ones that he abuses for financial gain).

There is:

FranTech Solutions in Wyoming, registered as a trade name August 2023, 3 months after FEDcisco said he sold BuyVM to Cloudzy. The application was made by Webhosting Holdings LLC, signed by Karen. Holds most BuyVM stuff including IPs.
Webhosting Holdings LLC in Wyoming, holding company. Holds more IPs.
NameCrane LLC in Wyoming. Holds more IPs and NameCrane stuff.

Cloudzy has different shells in the US (Wyoming), UK, and UAE. They were formerly known as RouterHosting.

unsafetypin · January 2025

I came here for drama and I stay here for drama

plumberg · January 2025

@unsafetypin said:
I came here for drama and I stay here for drama

Who doesn't

blorged · January 2025

the most amazing detail so far is that Karen is apparently a real person

emgh · January 2025

@blorged said:
the most amazing detail so far is that Karen is apparently a real person

Indeed

TimboJones · January 2025

@SirFoxy said:

@ralf said:

@SirFoxy said:
😂 you literally just can’t stop fucking lying. You mean you had to sign a four year non-compete as usual when you sell your company.

Btw, BuyVM was sold in May of 2023 not January 2025, IPs and such remain under FEDcisco’s name during the duration because the goal was and is to give the impression FEDcisco is still involved, when it’s only in an absolutely minimal and temporary role to keep people buying their shit services.

Even if you're right, it's not really any of our business what their terms were.

FWIW, in the UK I've worked at places where previous directors signed 2 or 3 year agreements to stay at the company. 4 years sounds unusually long as most new owner want to exert their vision on the company sooner than that.

What I’m saying is factual, always has been. FEDcisco (an actual previous federal informant selling “freedom of speech” and “law of the land” hosting btw) is just another grifter out to make money.

Bro, you're not in prison anymore.

SirFoxy · January 2025

@TimboJones said:

@SirFoxy said:

@ralf said:

@SirFoxy said:
😂 you literally just can’t stop fucking lying. You mean you had to sign a four year non-compete as usual when you sell your company.

Btw, BuyVM was sold in May of 2023 not January 2025, IPs and such remain under FEDcisco’s name during the duration because the goal was and is to give the impression FEDcisco is still involved, when it’s only in an absolutely minimal and temporary role to keep people buying their shit services.

Even if you're right, it's not really any of our business what their terms were.

FWIW, in the UK I've worked at places where previous directors signed 2 or 3 year agreements to stay at the company. 4 years sounds unusually long as most new owner want to exert their vision on the company sooner than that.

What I’m saying is factual, always has been. FEDcisco (an actual previous federal informant selling “freedom of speech” and “law of the land” hosting btw) is just another grifter out to make money.

Bro, you're not in prison anymore.

Literally everyone knows the reason BuyVM exists and who they serve. To LARP as a Libertarian selling “law of the land hosting,” and then be a federal informant in real life is as corny as it can get.

It’s expected for normal US businesses and that’s no fault on them, just don’t mislead your customers when you know you’re handing over that data when the Feds come knocking. And especially don’t continue the grift if the grift is the main reason you want to sell and exit the business lmao.

wemanageit · January 2025

@Francisco said:
The guys may have offered the new drive at the start just to get people going since some

Like I said, I don't think I had any critical there.. maybe there was.. I honestly don't remember... its pull in the data, rsync it to me, when it gets full I delete it all..

I don't think there was anything in there of real value.. and if so I should have moved it to local by now anyway.. if not it probably can be replaced.

I think me clogging up a request would be wasteful of time that could be spent on others with more critical needs than mine. Which is why I took the offer of a new slab, and credits, and move on...

Monitoring has always been my weakest skill set and is one I delegated completely at crane

I can understand, because a glitch, I had was similar in state. I am IIABDFI aka If it ain't broke don't fix! person... Everyone rail and froth at the mouth on that one all you want.. I am not running sudo apt-get update on a 30 second cron job (hyperbole? For some I don't think.. ).. So the issue came up.. cut to the chase.. had I done something different it probably wouldn't have been an glitch.. ok.. fine.. what'evs... I resolved it moved on... Self inflicted.. move on.

For buyvm, if how cloudzy handles their end says anything, it’s that they’ll be much more

I got no complaints on this side.

Like I posted if I had critical data, like I was backing up TO the SLAB.. Yeah I'd probably be pretty uptight over it... So I get it.. Same if this would affect the slice back ups... etc..

In THIS case, FOR ME.. It ain't no thing... new slab, restart, reattach, move on...

I’m very proud of what I built with such a small team but it’s too much to keep doing alone

I am VERY PLEASED HAPPY HAPPY CUSTOMER with BuyVM which is why I look at the changes with some trepidation. Warranted or not... I've been through the whole dance like this.. its how I ended up at BuyVM 11 years ago.

Thundas · January 2025

The man deserves it, he has been in the vps business way way back when i was still interested in running game server emulators. Its why i immediately bought his lifetime email, he deserves the trust.

TimboJones · January 2025

@SirFoxy said:

@TimboJones said:

@SirFoxy said:

@ralf said:

@SirFoxy said:
😂 you literally just can’t stop fucking lying. You mean you had to sign a four year non-compete as usual when you sell your company.

Btw, BuyVM was sold in May of 2023 not January 2025, IPs and such remain under FEDcisco’s name during the duration because the goal was and is to give the impression FEDcisco is still involved, when it’s only in an absolutely minimal and temporary role to keep people buying their shit services.

Even if you're right, it's not really any of our business what their terms were.

FWIW, in the UK I've worked at places where previous directors signed 2 or 3 year agreements to stay at the company. 4 years sounds unusually long as most new owner want to exert their vision on the company sooner than that.

What I’m saying is factual, always has been. FEDcisco (an actual previous federal informant selling “freedom of speech” and “law of the land” hosting btw) is just another grifter out to make money.

Bro, you're not in prison anymore.

Literally everyone knows the reason BuyVM exists and who they serve. To LARP as a Libertarian selling “law of the land hosting,” and then be a federal informant in real life is as corny as it can get.

It’s expected for normal US businesses and that’s no fault on them, just don’t mislead your customers when you know you’re handing over that data when the Feds come knocking. And especially don’t continue the grift if the grift is the main reason you want to sell and exit the business lmao.

Criminal mindset. Most people with morals do not have blanket protection for all people, they want pedophiles and murderers to be put in prison.

Francisco · January 2025

@wemanageit said: its how I ended up at BuyVM 11 years ago.

>

Whats your story? Who went under at that time?

@Thundas said:
The man deserves it, he has been in the vps business way way back when i was still interested in running game server emulators. Its why i immediately bought his lifetime email, he deserves the trust.

Zeny please.

Francisco

wemanageit · January 2025

@SirFoxy said:

😂 you literally just can’t stop fucking lying. You mean you had to sign a four year non-compete as usual when you sell your company.

Btw, BuyVM was sold in May of 2023 not January 2025, IPs and such remain under >FEDcisco’s name during the duration because the goal was and is to give the impression >FEDcisco is still involved, when it’s only in an absolutely minimal and temporary role to keep

OK.. throw that out there.. Objection! Facts not in evidence. So back it up. I will wait.. (Jeopardy theme begins...... )

people buying their shit services.

Well I got ZERO COMPLAINTS in 11 years! Let me retype that 11 YEARS! Louder for those in back 11 YEARS!!!!!

Every thing has a glitch now and then... BuyVM is no different.. I don't think they have ever offered an SLA at 5 Nines level.. And I doubt any one on here is either, no I am not looking. And even if you post it.. I'd be suspicious about that level of uptime.. on VPS.. Thats pretty hard for a F50 company let alone those here!

P.S. Not the first BuyVM data loss, it’s for hobbyist skids, not real businesses.

Yeah its not.. AND YOUR POINT IS? Has no other provider on here had similar? Really?? Really?

Well.. I can tell you that I had CLIENTS AND WORK using BuyVM based on my experience with them. And they were all happy with that end.. The fork in the road came in that I am a 100% Linux only person. I don't deal with any non Linux stuff. They wanted to run back to crud virus stuff. And we parted ways.. I don't do that stuff any more. I am not interested in you if you don't share my view on IT things. And I can tell you that several F100 companies are going to pay big time because they've run to a certain company for "security" solutions. Yeah that ain't a company I would chose for "security!" They got hacked, still have not fessed up publicly, and will likely get it even more with their so called "security" solution.

Lastly, honestly your whole post seems to be that of a disgruntled customer. Yeah I am sure that some have had a bad experience with BuyVM, and maybe this one is the cherry on the cake. I happily have not had that. Yeppers I got boned in this incident.. fortunately it doesn't affect me that much. I SYNC from the storage to local storage. I don't have critical backups on there etc.. I honestly get it and feel for those going through this mess if they had critical data in peril on there. I get it.. I'd be mad as fire too.. I don't, and am not. So I don't know why you got your axes all sharpened up, and the torches, and tar on boil, and bags of feather for BuyVM... BUT

THIS 11 YEAR customer is happy, HAPPY! I hope it stays that way in the future. I have my strong doubts.. been there done that dance. Why I am at BuyVM.. we'll see.

SirFoxy · January 2025

@wemanageit said:

@SirFoxy said:

😂 you literally just can’t stop fucking lying. You mean you had to sign a four year non-compete as usual when you sell your company.

Btw, BuyVM was sold in May of 2023 not January 2025, IPs and such remain under >FEDcisco’s name during the duration because the goal was and is to give the impression >FEDcisco is still involved, when it’s only in an absolutely minimal and temporary role to keep

OK.. throw that out there.. Objection! Facts not in evidence. So back it up. I will wait.. (Jeopardy theme begins...... )

people buying their shit services.

Well I got ZERO COMPLAINTS in 11 years! Let me retype that 11 YEARS! Louder for those in back 11 YEARS!!!!!

Every thing has a glitch now and then... BuyVM is no different.. I don't think they have ever offered an SLA at 5 Nines level.. And I doubt any one on here is either, no I am not looking. And even if you post it.. I'd be suspicious about that level of uptime.. on VPS.. Thats pretty hard for a F50 company let alone those here!

P.S. Not the first BuyVM data loss, it’s for hobbyist skids, not real businesses.

Yeah its not.. AND YOUR POINT IS? Has no other provider on here had similar? Really?? Really?

Well.. I can tell you that I had CLIENTS AND WORK using BuyVM based on my experience with them. And they were all happy with that end.. The fork in the road came in that I am a 100% Linux only person. I don't deal with any non Linux stuff. They wanted to run back to crud virus stuff. And we parted ways.. I don't do that stuff any more. I am not interested in you if you don't share my view on IT things. And I can tell you that several F100 companies are going to pay big time because they've run to a certain company for "security" solutions. Yeah that ain't a company I would chose for "security!" They got hacked, still have not fessed up publicly, and will likely get it even more with their so called "security" solution.

Lastly, honestly your whole post seems to be that of a disgruntled customer. Yeah I am sure that some have had a bad experience with BuyVM, and maybe this one is the cherry on the cake. I happily have not had that. Yeppers I got boned in this incident.. fortunately it doesn't affect me that much. I SYNC from the storage to local storage. I don't have critical backups on there etc.. I honestly get it and feel for those going through this mess if they had critical data in peril on there. I get it.. I'd be mad as fire too.. I don't, and am not. So I don't know why you got your axes all sharpened up, and the torches, and tar on boil, and bags of feather for BuyVM... BUT

THIS 11 YEAR customer is happy, HAPPY! I hope it stays that way in the future. I have my strong doubts.. been there done that dance. Why I am at BuyVM.. we'll see.

💀 I respect your enthusiasm and wish you the best for another 11 years

SirFoxy · January 2025

@TimboJones said:

@SirFoxy said:

@TimboJones said:

@SirFoxy said:

@ralf said:

@SirFoxy said:
😂 you literally just can’t stop fucking lying. You mean you had to sign a four year non-compete as usual when you sell your company.

Btw, BuyVM was sold in May of 2023 not January 2025, IPs and such remain under FEDcisco’s name during the duration because the goal was and is to give the impression FEDcisco is still involved, when it’s only in an absolutely minimal and temporary role to keep people buying their shit services.

Even if you're right, it's not really any of our business what their terms were.

FWIW, in the UK I've worked at places where previous directors signed 2 or 3 year agreements to stay at the company. 4 years sounds unusually long as most new owner want to exert their vision on the company sooner than that.

What I’m saying is factual, always has been. FEDcisco (an actual previous federal informant selling “freedom of speech” and “law of the land” hosting btw) is just another grifter out to make money.

Bro, you're not in prison anymore.

Literally everyone knows the reason BuyVM exists and who they serve. To LARP as a Libertarian selling “law of the land hosting,” and then be a federal informant in real life is as corny as it can get.

It’s expected for normal US businesses and that’s no fault on them, just don’t mislead your customers when you know you’re handing over that data when the Feds come knocking. And especially don’t continue the grift if the grift is the main reason you want to sell and exit the business lmao.

Criminal mindset. Most people with morals do not have blanket protection for all people, they want pedophiles and murderers to be put in prison.

I would agree pedophiles and murderers should be in prison.

Though that is different from welcoming a myriad of fuckery on your network for financial gain and trying to hide under safe harbor laws, handing over data when needed to save your own ass.

It’s no secret there’s a lot of scanning/spamming, piracy (both consumers and distributors), Tor exit nodes (which let’s face it: often lead to fuckery), and beyond from FranTech’s ASN.

ScreenReader · January 2025

@Levi said:
Wait, is there still a BuyVM? They sold it to some cloud ai nonsense... Is it AI's fault to not monitor RAID and drives? Can AI be sued?

AI-Powered datacentre, it's not going to end well

r33k · January 2025

This taught me to always test my backups. I lost all data for one of my services, and a significant portion for another. The block storage has always been shitty, with brownouts before in my experience.

You get what you pay for, but other companies I tend to expect better from. I pay around the same amount for storage from Backblaze and I've never had an outage or failure from them. I'd warn anyone using BuyVM's storage to treat it as volatile storage and always keep recent backups, being ready to use them at any time.

I'm disappointed at the full data loss this time around though. Real shit thing to happen right after the acquisition.

r33k · January 2025

One other thing I forgot to mention, which I brought up to staff before, which they failed to update on their website: their storage is not using infiniband anymore, it hasn't for a while. It uses standard ethernet, but they still advertise infiniband on the website. Not sure if all regions are ethernet, but at least a few of them are.

Norris · January 2025

@r33k said:
This taught me to always test my backups. I lost all data for one of my services, and a significant portion for another. The block storage has always been shitty, with brownouts before in my experience.

You get what you pay for, but other companies I tend to expect better from. I pay around the same amount for storage from Backblaze and I've never had an outage or failure from them. I'd warn anyone using BuyVM's storage to treat it as volatile storage and always keep recent backups, being ready to use them at any time.

I'm disappointed at the full data loss this time around though. Real shit thing to happen right after the acquisition.

My luck is that I had the backup on backblaze, I only had to spend a few dollars to restore using rclone copy with --checksum

apollo15 · January 2025

@SirFoxy said:

@TimboJones said:

@SirFoxy said:

@ralf said:

@SirFoxy said:
😂 you literally just can’t stop fucking lying. You mean you had to sign a four year non-compete as usual when you sell your company.

Btw, BuyVM was sold in May of 2023 not January 2025, IPs and such remain under FEDcisco’s name during the duration because the goal was and is to give the impression FEDcisco is still involved, when it’s only in an absolutely minimal and temporary role to keep people buying their shit services.

Even if you're right, it's not really any of our business what their terms were.

FWIW, in the UK I've worked at places where previous directors signed 2 or 3 year agreements to stay at the company. 4 years sounds unusually long as most new owner want to exert their vision on the company sooner than that.

What I’m saying is factual, always has been. FEDcisco (an actual previous federal informant selling “freedom of speech” and “law of the land” hosting btw) is just another grifter out to make money.

Bro, you're not in prison anymore.

Literally everyone knows the reason BuyVM exists and who they serve. To LARP as a Libertarian selling “law of the land hosting,” and then be a federal informant in real life is as corny as it can get.

It’s expected for normal US businesses and that’s no fault on them, just don’t mislead your customers when you know you’re handing over that data when the Feds come knocking. And especially don’t continue the grift if the grift is the main reason you want to sell and exit the business lmao.

so what? Everyone who thinks someone will not comply with law enforcement for what, $105/months, most expensive buyvm package is plain retard.

r33k · February 2025

@SirFoxy said:

@TimboJones said:

@SirFoxy said:

@ralf said:

@SirFoxy said:
😂 you literally just can’t stop fucking lying. You mean you had to sign a four year non-compete as usual when you sell your company.

Btw, BuyVM was sold in May of 2023 not January 2025, IPs and such remain under FEDcisco’s name during the duration because the goal was and is to give the impression FEDcisco is still involved, when it’s only in an absolutely minimal and temporary role to keep people buying their shit services.

Even if you're right, it's not really any of our business what their terms were.

FWIW, in the UK I've worked at places where previous directors signed 2 or 3 year agreements to stay at the company. 4 years sounds unusually long as most new owner want to exert their vision on the company sooner than that.

What I’m saying is factual, always has been. FEDcisco (an actual previous federal informant selling “freedom of speech” and “law of the land” hosting btw) is just another grifter out to make money.

Bro, you're not in prison anymore.

Literally everyone knows the reason BuyVM exists and who they serve. To LARP as a Libertarian selling “law of the land hosting,” and then be a federal informant in real life is as corny as it can get.

It’s expected for normal US businesses and that’s no fault on them, just don’t mislead your customers when you know you’re handing over that data when the Feds come knocking. And especially don’t continue the grift if the grift is the main reason you want to sell and exit the business lmao.

I never felt mislead when signing up for their services. "law of the land" is pretty easy to understand: illegal things are not allowed, legal things are allowed. I need a host that won't kick me off for bullshit and is reasonably priced, and that's what BuyVM has been. I don't get how that's a larp or catering to larpers.

rcy026 · February 2025

@SirFoxy said:

Though that is different from welcoming a myriad of fuckery on your network for financial gain and trying to hide under safe harbor laws, handing over data when needed to save your own ass.

BuyVM claims to follow the "law of the land" principle. Does this not pretty clearly tell that they will follow the law? If so, how can you expect them to not hand over data when legally required?
I must be missing something here.

apollo15 · February 2025

@rcy026 said:

@SirFoxy said:

Though that is different from welcoming a myriad of fuckery on your network for financial gain and trying to hide under safe harbor laws, handing over data when needed to save your own ass.

BuyVM claims to follow the "law of the land" principle. Does this not pretty clearly tell that they will follow the law? If so, how can you expect them to not hand over data when legally required?
I must be missing something here.

correct

Luxembourg laws are more strict than US laws.

yoursunny · February 2025

https://buyvm.net/404
"Blame Fran."
When must we stop blaming Fran?

DreamCaster · February 2025

Never knew BuyVM was no more Francisco's. Always thought he would be around forever. Do not visit LET for a few months and miss a lot of drama

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