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I haven't always encountered such cases; this is the first time in my 28 years of using hosting that this has happened.
it's a strange company - first they penetrate the low-end market and then realise that they're not earning anything and have a lot of work to do - you know that beforehand and you have a strategy for why you're doing it - but not that stupid!
shortly before all the separately terminated annual contracts expire - they still have to change the IPs - work for nothing!
none of this really looks like a long-term plan and is therefore being thrown out!
Well I went to their site, I can't find anywhere where they're praising themselves for their great incredible backup speed, and I've been on this site since November 2013, I don't ever remember seeing one post by someone praising the efficiency performance and speed of a server company and include yeah the backups are blazing fast, never heard someone ask someone that is reviewing a server company how fast is their backups, you are a first, cupcake
Can we all just back away a bit?! Personal space people! Personal space!!!
Can we get manager on a low start?!
Ayo, we talkin' 'bout servers in general, not just backups, ya feel me? And servers got everything to do with makin' them backups, like you know now yourself from me 🙂.
On the homepage, in the top left corner, it says in large letters — UNBEATABLE PERFORMANCE.
If someone wants personal space, don't engage in Verbal Intercourse in a public forum
Agree 🙏
@arnoldz is this backup a misunderstanding?
In the VPS world the backup is NOT normally done by the VPS itself. It is done using an external service which may be running on a completely different host / node.
The 'performance' of your server can still be 'unbeatable' even though the backup varies enormously.
So where have you posted about where you found the performance for price that beats Crunchbits?
Also, what is your use case where this variable speed snapshot is a showstopper issue?
Try ihostart for incredible backup speeds.
In a word: yes.
They are clearly advertising the VPS as having unbeatable performance. Aside from the clearly hyperbolic nature of such a claim anyway, you are probably the only person in the world who'd read that and think "a full VPS backup is the best metric for determining VPS performance". Not price, not GB5 score, not high network speeds, or you know, any of the things you actually use a VPS for. No, backups.
Firstly, the vast majority of VPS providers don't even offer backups of any kind. The majority of those that do charge extra for it. Most also limit it to once per week or once per day. And absolutely none that I've seen make any guarantees about when the backup will occur. Even assuming that nobody else was using the host your VPS is on at the time, and so you can uncontended access to that, there's a high likelihood that any backup system is centralised, so you'll be either contended with anyone else doing a backup at the same time, or in a queue to use it. Maybe all of your minute long ones were lucky and nobody else was using it. Maybe your hour one was after a whole load of backups were all scheduled at the same time and they were all queued.
But honestly, it shouldn't matter. These backups don't represent what a VPS is used for. They're an extra freebie that a few providers add that gives you an initial safety net if you mess something up. It's usually not guaranteed that it will work, and you are advised to always make your own backups.
Normal people don't need to use backups like this. Some people may choose to set up an automatic once a day thing, if it's a free thing, but you would only ever use it for an emergency. Like maybe if you were about to live resize partitions on your drive and you weren't confident.
Constantly bombarding the free backup service just "to test it" is really taking the pee of what it's for. But maybe I have an unfair implicit bias, because I assumed you must have some idea what you're doing if you buy a VPS. Maybe your skills really are so bad that you really do need to keep restoring from backups multiple times per day because you screw things up every time you try to do anything.
But in any case, making a massive scene saying that the provider and their VPS are "crap" and "awful" is totally out of line when it seems you haven't even actually tested the performance of the VPS doing VPS things, but just doing something that doesn't even slightly reflect what normal people do with their servers. How about you post a YABS for these "crap" and "awful" VPS so we can see how terrible they are?
$3.60/month VPS - Crunchbits
$1.30/month VPS - Chunkserve
So you compared two cores vs 1 core and average IOPS vs ass IOPS. I'm still not getting this, that cheaper host is a super old CPU.
Is your VPS placed on a congested node, a node with users generating heavy disk access? Here are the fio benchmark results for my VPS, which is on an annual plan but costs less than half of yours.
I don’t know
I was asked, and I posted.
It's not really fair to critique the 'performance' of a built in backup system and judge the quality of the VM based on it. What if the host's backup system de-prioritizes I/O for backups under certain conditions? What if they shuffle data around between storage nodes? If you don't know anything about how the backup process works, you can't call the VM 'crap' because of it.
Did the backup complete, and can it be restored? If yes, then it is 'performing' 100% as it should.
I can't agree with you. I'm purchasing the service as a whole, and the backup is part of that service. If the backup hadn't been advertised, I might not have purchased it. Two devices are involved in the backup process, and it could be that the Crunchbits server was slow, not the storage server where the backup is being stored. In any case, the fact that the backups took a very long time to create speaks for itself about the overall quality of the service.
I don't need to know how the backup process works. I need the result. And I know that a good result is 1 minute, while a bad one is over 1 hour. These are obvious things, even for a complete layman who has no relation to servers.
This time is a little too long for me.
Can you show us where the backup was even advertised. I just looked at Crunchbits site, there's no mention of the word on their front page. Searching the knowledgebase returns zero results. The only reference I can find is in the FAQ:
It strongly seems to be the case it's not advertised, just mentioned offhand.
You YABS shows that your VPS performance is OK. Pretty good network, good disk speeds around 64KB block speeds, just "OK" for larger block speeds, so you're probably on a reasonably busy node with lots of other people using the disk.
Maybe the complete layman should be more willing to listen to the advice of people who have more experience. Literally every single person in this thread is telling you that your expectations for a free backup service are unrealistic, unguaranteed and not reflective of VPS performance.
Anyway, regardless of anything else you might learn from this thread, the best advice you can take from it is: make your OWN backups. Not just a single backup, but multiple to different backup targets, preferably on systems from different providers. If you value your data, you should have at least 3 backup targets.
Even if it is offered, relying on a provider's automatic VPS backup is a bad idea for many reasons. A handful of those:
Finally, a question that's worth asking yourself - how often do you intend restoring from backups, and under what circumstances? If it's anything other than "only if a massive disaster happens and some unforeseen circumstance thwarted all of my other data safety plans" then you're doing it wrong.
Any services besides vps is value added services. Given environment (low end) - it is miracle that those services works at all. Want some guarantee, performance, polite support, high uptime and good night sleep? Go for aws, ms, oracle and other giants.
i am in awe of OP's 28-year experience
You didn't pay for a '60 second backup'. You paid for a VPS with a certain amount of CPU, RAM, disk space, and an included backup service. If the backup works, and the other specs of the VM are as advertised, you got what you paid for.
We also include free automated backups with our VMs. We implement incremental backups, deduplication, and have several cache / cold storage layers as part of the storage cluster. Because of the complexity of the setup, backup / restore times are are not always consistent, and vary based on the exact scenario. This doesn't have any bearing on the overall 'quality' of the service whatsoever. The amount of time it takes for a backup to complete has nothing to do with how 'stable' or 'performant' the host node or VM itself is.
Now you're being obtuse. Backup is a feature, no performance guarantee was EVER mentioned, so just having backup and restore, regardless of execution time, meets the advertised features.
You're suffering from e-penis envy. You don't actually know wtf you're doing or understand shared hosting. The key word is SHARED.
Also, you cannot demonstrate that backup time impacts you whatsoever.
Lastly, why is this so important since you need to backup off-site anyway? The provider could go out of business or have hardware failure and you're fucked.
There's nothing wrong with being unhappy with the service you purchased, just cancel and try another provider. Maybe you're even still in the refund period.
Now that you've found a specific pain point that matters to you, you can ask the next provider about it before purchasing. It doesn't need to be an ordeal.
Phew!
Finally, my torture with Crunchbits is over
Today my VPS rental expires
Thanks, God, for freeing me from this nightmare
Never again!