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@HostSlick @AezaHost @Hetzner_OL @LiteServer
@gigahost owns the DC they operate in
@c1vhosting
@iHostART
@cociu
Do not forget to include these
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We own the servers, network equipment (switches, routes, etc.), and some of our IP blocks ( a /22, and 2x /24s). As we grow we plan to acquire more ownership of IPs, to help protect the end customer while helping our company as well
We also just moved into a private cage with 24 racks of capacity, so lots of room for great deals!
colocrossing
buyvm
hetzner
hostslick
solidseo
terrahost
@cociu is LET provider that own me his sisters
We do too!
@yoursunny is the only provider who owns his own IPv9 equipment.
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How much network equipment are you looking for to meet your criteria?
'A single router' and the 'entire datacentre' will both match your criteria, so what qualifies?
Both. I'm just excluding provider who outsource the network part.
Having just one router is not necessarily a sign of reliability. I prefer the provider to have at least 2.
Or with a dual power supply.
We own the Ethernet cord.
That counts too?
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Same same. AFAIK @gigahost now is what once was @terrahost (excellent provider btw., me a very happy customer since years).
Well, you forgot to mention that you do not own the penguins nibbling on your IPv9 cables. At least not all of them. I happen to know because I took away all the IPv4 and 6 cables to make them nibble on your frivolously modern IPv9 cables, hehe.
Don't own all of their IP space.
Not all IP ranges but some.
Are you Panq B.V.?
Both don't own all their IP space, mostly 0 owned IP space.
Colocrossing owns a shit ton of IPs. https://bgp.tools/rir-owner/ARIN-HOSTP-7
Could you clarify how you concluded that we own no IP space? This claim is entirely false. In reality, we do own many IP space; however, like many providers, we may lease or announce other clients BYO IP space when necessary. Therefore, your statement is inaccurate.
Not all and I have no way of checking what customers get for VPS/DEDI if that is what OP is looking for.
Exactly
I appreciate when people contribute, but it's important to ensure statements are based on accurate information. Not trying to be rude, but it’s better to avoid making claims without fully understanding the subject.
You also seem to own some IPs, but still not all of them
https://bgp.tools/rir-owner/ARIN-SSL-1126
Mostly 0 IP space is indeed incorrect. But its not everything.
Correct but we do own
Find a single provider today that doesn’t have multiple IPs under their ASN that aren’t their own, and you’d win the title of the world’s smartest guesser. Honestly, I think this conversation is going nowhere, as it serves no meaningful purpose.
About 50/50 split here.
Own rack with owned servers + IPs local, rented servers in London.
https://bgp.tools/as/39409 multiple IPs under their ASN and they are all his own
LOL 512 ips, man I am out of here you sure dont know what you are talking about
https://bgp.tools/as/60404#prefixes clearly states what is theirs and what is a private customer
I am now a certified worlds smartest guesser.
like 40% of them. Theres probly no list. Most own servers and network equipment but rent their ip space.
I think we shouldn't be too demanding, after all this is LET and not "the global top 10 hosting providers".
My take is that a serious provider should own
where 'significant' means at least 1/3rd or, preferably, 2/3rds. And network equipment means "any and all network equipment within rented/leased cage (or rack) incl., if used and applicable, core switch" but router (redundant, please!) must be owned in main location but can be provided by DC in other locations.
TL;DR Let's not be too demanding, but a serious provider must have at least some solid amount of "meat on the bones" and not basically be but a shop front or a single rack operation with not even or at best a TOR switch.
I'd also add colocation paid a few months in advance and having a lawyer on retainer.