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NameCrane Black Friday - CraneMail Email Hosting + Cloud Storage Launch with Lifetime Deal

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  • @Francisco said:

    @COLBYLICIOUS said:
    @hyperblast can you imagine what beautiful Christmas were if it had been an mail plan in EU available?

    We need to get GDPR stuff sorted before we'll be viable in EU anyway.

    I need to work on a DPA (or better, hire a firm to handle it) at minimum. We need to revise some parts of our privacy policy too.

    Francisco

    Can't wait, and I know you know that.

  • NameCraneNameCrane Member, Patron Provider

    @syihabx said:

    @NameCrane said:

    @FairShare said:
    @Francisco
    Any Christmas deal on Namecrane shared hosting ?

    CRANEMAS coupon code is up for 20% off DA shared/reseller/crates on annual/biennial/triennial billing - on top of whatever discounts those already have on longer terms. Code expires Jan 2nd, 2025.

    Will put a post up later.

    Also for those that have asked about the additional primary domains for CraneMail lifetimes, you can upgrade the CraneMail Lifetime 250G's to 500+ for the extra primary domains via the billing portal.

    Select the product, then hit the upgrade/downgrade button and bump it to 500/750/1000/2000G lifetimes. If any psychopaths need larger lifetimes than that, let me know and I can add them.

    Can I upgrade at any time, or during the current promo period?

    For the DA coupon, only during promo period. If you ticket we can handle it.

    For CraneMail Lifetimes - we'll allow upgrades in future, but the pricing will be going up in the new year - so the upgrades will be priced at whatever the new lifetime fee is for the higher plan.

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  • @Francisco said: A mass import option has also been added for those that have 40 aliases and don't want to add them all by hand.

    Is 40 just an example, or does the number have significance?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Turbo_Pascal said: Is 40 just an example, or does the number have significance?

    >

    Just a random number :)

    Francisco

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  • budi1413budi1413 Member
    edited December 2024

    @Francisco said:

    @Turbo_Pascal said: Is 40 just an example, or does the number have significance?

    >

    Just a random number :)

    Francisco

    nice. can mass import my 1 alias. :D

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  • @Francisco said: You can now quickly & easily create aliases/forwarders right from cranemail.

    I'm not always great at communicating, so I'm leery about bringing this up again. But my first glance at the screenshots indicates it might be possible to send from aliases. Am I missing something?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Turbo_Pascal said: I'm not always great at communicating, so I'm leery about bringing this up again. But my first glance at the screenshots indicates it might be possible to send from aliases. Am I missing something?

    Correct :)

    Francisco

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  • Does sending from multiple aliases happen from one "mailbox" with one credential (if preferred)?

    @Francisco said: Correct

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Turbo_Pascal said: Does sending from multiple aliases happen from one "mailbox" with one credential (if preferred)?

    Yes. You'd login as a user and then when writing an email in the webmail you'll see that the FROM field is a drop down that you can pick from.

    On your desktop client you'd just define additional identities, and then do the same thing basically.

    Francisco

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  • Early in this thread, someone asked for Addy.io or SimpleLogin functionality. If I'm understanding correctly, especially for those who prefer webmail, it has been delivered, and without the inconvenience of reverse aliases.

    I'm waiting to learn about the caveat, but I can't imagine what it would be.

    @Francisco said: You'd login as a user and then when writing an email in the webmail you'll see that the FROM field is a drop down that you can pick from.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Turbo_Pascal said: Early in this thread, someone asked for Addy.io or SimpleLogin functionality. If I'm understanding correctly, especially for those who prefer webmail, it has been delivered, and without the inconvenience of reverse aliases.

    I'm waiting to learn about the caveat, but I can't imagine what it would be.

    Lets go over that a bit then.

    • You can create as many aliases as you want and funnel them to any number of users (or all to 1 user if that's your thing)
    • You can then send 'FROM' that user in webmail at minimum, but on desktop clients too
    • The above probably doesn't work with catch-all's

    Honestly I've not dug into the features of either of those offerings. I thought it was more you would use their generic domains and then route it to your own. Is that not the case?

    Francisco

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  • @Francisco said:

    @COLBYLICIOUS said:
    @hyperblast can you imagine what beautiful Christmas were if it had been an mail plan in EU available?

    We need to get GDPR stuff sorted before we'll be viable in EU anyway.

    I need to work on a DPA (or better, hire a firm to handle it) at minimum. We need to revise some parts of our privacy policy too.

    Francisco

    stupid question, what special gdpr does cranemail need compared to the webhosting services you already offer in the eu? are there any differences? you are not the operator of the email service but only offer the infrastructure for it.
    operators of email services (at least in germany) with more than 10000 users (or so) are still subject to special regulation, but this does not apply to infrastructure providers in the eu, like you are?!

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @hyperblast said: stupid question, what special gdpr does cranemail need compared to the webhosting services you already offer in the eu? are there any differences? you are not the operator of the email service but only offer the infrastructure for it.

    operators of email services (at least in germany) with more than 10000 users (or so) are still subject to special regulation, but this does not apply to infrastructure providers in the eu, like you are?!

    We never claimed to be "GDPR Compliant" anywhere on Namecrane or BuyVM though, that's the difference.

    The hope would be to be able to claim that, since almost all of the EU businesses that want to resell us can't/won't until there's policies/contracts in place.

    Francisco

  • @Francisco said:

    @hyperblast said: stupid question, what special gdpr does cranemail need compared to the webhosting services you already offer in the eu? are there any differences? you are not the operator of the email service but only offer the infrastructure for it.
    operators of email services (at least in germany) with more than 10000 users (or so) are still subject to special regulation, but this does not apply to infrastructure providers in the eu, like you are?!

    We never claimed to be "GDPR Compliant" anywhere on Namecrane or BuyVM though, that's the difference.

    The hope would be to be able to claim that, since almost all of the EU businesses that want to resell us can't/won't until there's policies/contracts in place.

    Francisco

    ok. that makes sense. so not only cranemail even all your services in the eu become gdpr "upgrade".

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    ok. that makes sense. so not only cranemail even all your services in the eu become gdpr "upgrade".

    You got it.

    We get requests on both brands every once in a while for us to provide a DPA and other GDPR documents. There's likely tons of people that close the site instantly because we don't have notices anywhere.

    Francisco

  • decisions decisions.. should I upgrade my US service or wait for the lifetime EU service to have a backup service in a different region? Good problem to have B)

  • @bdl said:
    decisions decisions.. should I upgrade my US service or wait for the lifetime EU service to have a backup service in a different region? Good problem to have B)

    wait for the eu cranemail sounds smart

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  • Hi @Francisco I'm already a customer of one of the CraneMail package. I wonder if I can switch to EU servers after all that GDPR compliance stuff.

  • @marian said:
    Hi @Francisco I'm already a customer of one of the CraneMail package. I wonder if I can switch to EU servers after all that GDPR compliance stuff.

    No, but you can buy new services once they go live in EU

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  • balajibalaji Member
    edited December 2024

    Placed an order which was flagged as fraud and the amount was refunded, not sure if it was because of VPN. Again, placed an order without VPN this time which was successful, waiting for the account creation /provisioning confirmation now. Overall, the service looks interesting, hope it delivers what is promised. @Francisco @NameCrane

  • Let's say [email protected] is the sole user of an account who accesses webmail only. He sets up his first alias (with the same domain name): [email protected]. He corresponds (sends and receives) with his plumber exclusively via the alias. In this case, does NameCrane reveal or imply the existence of [email protected], especially in the headers of outgoing mail?

    For one person using webmail, can the new aliasing feature deliver all mail to one inbox? Likewise, is there one "sent" folder for all the outgoing mail sent via the multiple names?

    In webmail, can rules also be set up to sort mail to folders based on the name (ie, local-part) to which each message is addressed?

    @Francisco said: I thought it was more you would use their generic domains and then route it to your own. Is that not the case?

    It can be done the way you describe. However, when paid, SimpleLogin can host a large number of (maybe even unlimited) domain names owned by the customer. One can bypass the generic domain names entirely and still make use of all features. Addy.io has similar ability: use their generic domain names or pay extra to bring your own. In my personal opinion, using one's own domain names makes more sense.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Turbo_Pascal said: . In this case, does NameCrane reveal or imply the existence of [email protected], especially in the headers of outgoing mail?

    >

    The returned emails would be FROM the alias (though I'd have to confirm 1000% that it auto picks the alias in the FROM drop down in webmail). There should be no exposure of john@.

    @Turbo_Pascal said: For one person using webmail, can the new aliasing feature deliver all mail to one inbox?

    By default it'd filter all into your main INBOX. You can setup content filters to man handle the message however you wish.

    @Turbo_Pascal said: For one > Likewise, is there one "sent" folder for all the outgoing mail sent via the multiple names?

    No, the 'sent' messages would only be located in each users mailbox. With that being said, as the domain admin you can enable global email archiving, or you can just setup domain wide content filters that auto forward outgoing emails to another inbox.

    @Turbo_Pascal said: In webmail, can rules also be set up to sort mail to folders based on the name (ie, local-part) to which each message is addressed?

    Yes, the content filtering is quite good.

    You could even do something like this:

    • enable plus addressing
    • setup your aliases like plumber -> john+plumber
    • Incoming messages should auto filter into a 'Plumber' folder

    Something useful i'll need to research would be making a browser addon for people to quickly make aliases.

    Francisco

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  • agentmishraagentmishra Member, Host Rep

    @Francisco said:

    @Headfirst said: Any plans to enable ipv6 for mail retrieval and submission? It would probably be best to keep mx and mail sending v4 only.

    Yes :)

    Francisco

    any ETA on this?

  • You mentioned a browser add-on, and I can see why some might want that. Personally, I would never use it. I think the best, harder to replicate perk of Addy.io is its iOS app (for on-the-go alias managing). Only my opinion.

    @Francisco said: No, the 'sent' messages would only be located in each users mailbox.

    I'm not clear on what this means and the implications. Weren't we using the example of one user? But I actually don't care much about how sent mail is accessed. Other questions are more interesting.

    Another question of lower importance, but maybe worth mentioning: Can aliases be set up prior to changing one's MX records? There's a risk of some incoming mail getting lost during a migration to NameCrane. If the aliases can be created in advance, then time and stress are lowered. It's possible that no mail service on Earth is advanced enough to make this possible, so I don't expect it.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Turbo_Pascal said: Another question of lower importance, but maybe worth mentioning: Can aliases be set up prior to changing one's MX records? There's a risk of some incoming mail getting lost during a migration to NameCrane. If the aliases can be created in advance, then time and stress are lowered. It's possible that no mail service on Earth is advanced enough to make this possible, so I don't expect it.

    >

    Yep. Once you do domain verification you can do whatever you want within cranemail.

    Francisco

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  • Thanks. I imagine my questions could be exhausting.

    @Francisco said: Once you do domain verification you can do whatever you want within cranemail

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Turbo_Pascal said: Thanks. I imagine my questions could be exhausting.

    Not at all, glad I could clear the air some.

    Merry Christmas!

    Francisco

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  • @Francisco @NameCrane Can you check this Ticket #CRANE-7465

  • For domain aliases, do we set MX records to point to workspace or spamexperts (if spamexperts is enabled?)

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @bdl said: For domain aliases, do we set MX records to point to workspace or spamexperts (if spamexperts is enabled?)

    You want to use the Spamexperts MX records.

    You want to also use the Cranemail portal to setup the Domain Alias otherwise you'll have to deal with swapping the MX records back/forth to pass DNS verification. Whereas with the cranemail portal you just do another TXT record.

    Francisco

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