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KS-7 and RISE-S which one better

NickmanNickman Member
edited December 2024 in General

KS-7
AMD Epyc 7451 - 24c/48t - 2.3GHz/3.2GHz
128GB DDR4 ECC 2400MHz
2× 500GB SSD NVMe Soft RAID
300Mbit/s unmetered
$86.00 /month
RISE-S
AMD Ryzen 7 9700X - 8c/16t - 3.8GHz/5.5GHz
64GB DDR5 ECC On-Die 5200MHz
2× 512GB SSD NVMe Soft RAID
1Gbit/s unmetered and guaranteed
$61.00 /month

which one is better?
and what's the reason?

hope to get some advice from guys

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Comments

  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    RISE-S wins everytime - the evidence is staring you in the face

  • NickmanNickman Member
    edited December 2024

    @allthemtings said:
    RISE-S wins everytime - the evidence is staring you in the face

    can u explain it in more detail?

  • wuckwuck Member
    edited December 2024

    One of the 2 is cheaper guaranteed 1gbps vs 300mbps the only advantage for KS-7 is core count now does it win against the 9700X depend on usage I guess but Rise-S seems like a no brainer

    And Rise-S being brand new, high chance that you get brand new disk

  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    Ryzen 3500 single core score / epyc is about 650-700 single core score

    For gaming Ryzen is the obvious winner with the higher core score and ghz, im not sure on your website php/sql setup but im assuming you dont need 24cores for a single website so single core performance will be better

  • @Nickman said:

    @allthemtings said:
    RISE-S wins everytime - the evidence is staring you in the face

    can u explain it in more detail?
    my current server always make the CPU over 70%, so wondering if for php and mysql, which one would be better?

    • better single core performance
    • DDR5
    • Guaranteed 1Gbit/s
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  • I think especially with PHP, the 9700x with its higher single core performance would have a clear advantage.

  • It's less ram but it's 2 time the speed too and DDR5, I got the Rise-S and it's quite good

  • The only reason to get the KS-7 over the Rise-S is, if your application/stack needs lots of RAM (>64GB) and threads, but low computation per thread

  • NickmanNickman Member
    edited December 2024

    @allthemtings said:
    Ryzen 3500 single core score / epyc is about 650-700 single core score

    For gaming Ryzen is the obvious winner with the higher core score and ghz, im not sure on your website php/sql setup but im assuming you dont need 24cores for a single website so single core performance will be better

    my websites is all articles and photos with wordpress and thinkphp.
    about 3 million artilces, when CPU over 70%, check mysql with show procsslist, shows query like,
    select *** from ** and ** order by. select ** left join***. select count *** from

  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @Nickman said:

    @allthemtings said:
    Ryzen 3500 single core score / epyc is about 650-700 single core score

    For gaming Ryzen is the obvious winner with the higher core score and ghz, im not sure on your website php/sql setup but im assuming you dont need 24cores for a single website so single core performance will be better

    my websites is all articles and photos with wordpress and thinkphp.
    about 3 million artilces, when CPU over 70%, check mysql with show procsslist, shows query like,
    select *** from ** and ** order by. select ** left join***. select count *** from

    Yeah definitely go with the RISE-S it will work very well :)

  • @Nacorid said:
    The only reason to get the KS-7 over the Rise-S is, if your application/stack needs lots of RAM (>64GB) and threads, but low computation per thread

    for RAM, 32GB seems already enough

  • @allthemtings said:

    @Nickman said:

    @allthemtings said:
    Ryzen 3500 single core score / epyc is about 650-700 single core score

    For gaming Ryzen is the obvious winner with the higher core score and ghz, im not sure on your website php/sql setup but im assuming you dont need 24cores for a single website so single core performance will be better

    my websites is all articles and photos with wordpress and thinkphp.
    about 3 million artilces, when CPU over 70%, check mysql with show procsslist, shows query like,
    select *** from ** and ** order by. select ** left join***. select count *** from

    Yeah definitely go with the RISE-S it will work very well :)

    ok, thanks so much for your advice

    Thanked by 1allthemtings
  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    Whats your current server specs that runs at 70%? @Nickman

  • @allthemtings said:
    Whats your current server specs that runs at 70%? @Nickman

    RYZEN 3600

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  • Gonna be a good upgrade then

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  • emghemgh Veteran, Megathread Squad
    edited December 2024

    @Nickman said:

    @allthemtings said:
    Whats your current server specs that runs at 70%? @Nickman

    RYZEN 3600

    Get the Rise-S

    Or even the EX44 if you want to try something a little bit cheaper

  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @Nickman said:

    @allthemtings said:
    Whats your current server specs that runs at 70%? @Nickman

    RYZEN 3600

    Yeah RISE-S will give you double the performance + New Drives + DDR5 RAM

    Easiest choice of your life

  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @emgh said:

    @Nickman said:

    @allthemtings said:
    Whats your current server specs that runs at 70%? @Nickman

    RYZEN 3600

    Or even the EX44 if you want to try something a little bit cheaper

    Thanked by 1wuck
  • emghemgh Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @allthemtings said:

    @emgh said:

    @Nickman said:

    @allthemtings said:
    Whats your current server specs that runs at 70%? @Nickman

    RYZEN 3600

    Or even the EX44 if you want to try something a little bit cheaper

    Imagine sucking french pillesnopp and not even get paid for it

  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @emgh said:

    @allthemtings said:

    @emgh said:

    @Nickman said:

    @allthemtings said:
    Whats your current server specs that runs at 70%? @Nickman

    RYZEN 3600

    Or even the EX44 if you want to try something a little bit cheaper

    Imagine sucking french pillesnopp and not even get paid for it

    code allthemtings for 50% off your next ovh order o:)

    Thanked by 2emgh wuck
  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    stop being a hater @emgh put your ex44 in the bin and buy a nice new shiny rise-s

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  • Depends of the user case. For virtualization go with Epyc, for web/game hosting go for ryzen.

  • emghemgh Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @allthemtings said:
    stop being a hater @emgh put your ex44 in the bin and buy a nice new shiny rise-s

    The day I stop hating you should be seriously worried

    And my EX44 already is in the bin

    Replaced by Advance-1 for now

    Thanked by 2allthemtings satorik
  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @emgh said:

    @allthemtings said:
    stop being a hater @emgh put your ex44 in the bin and buy a nice new shiny rise-s

    The day I stop hating you should be seriously worried

    And my EX44 already is in the bin

    Replaced by Advance-1 for now

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @Andru said:
    Depends of the user case. For virtualization go with Epyc, for web/game hosting go for ryzen.

    What if you want to virtualize it to host web/game?

  • @emgh said:

    @Andru said:
    Depends of the user case. For virtualization go with Epyc, for web/game hosting go for ryzen.

    What if you want to virtualize it to host web/game?

    ENOERR

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  • @emgh said:

    @Andru said:
    Depends of the user case. For virtualization go with Epyc, for web/game hosting go for ryzen.

    What if you want to virtualize it to host web/game?

    Game definetly no, but web.. why not?
    I can't imagine 30 VMs on this ryzen but 30 VMs on Epyc can handle it.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @Andru said:

    @emgh said:

    @Andru said:
    Depends of the user case. For virtualization go with Epyc, for web/game hosting go for ryzen.

    What if you want to virtualize it to host web/game?

    Game definetly no, but web.. why not?
    I can't imagine 30 VMs on this ryzen but 30 VMs on Epyc can handle it.

    I wouldn’t be so sure

  • AndruAndru Member
    edited December 2024

    @Andru said:

    @emgh said:

    @Andru said:
    Depends of the user case. For virtualization go with Epyc, for web/game hosting go for ryzen.

    What if you want to virtualize it to host web/game?

    Game definetly no, but web.. why not?
    I can't imagine 30 VMs on this ryzen but 30 VMs on Epyc can handle it.

    Maybe I'am old school.. but for virtualisation every time I will chose a server grade CPU. All goes for multi-tasking. More cores more power.
    If you chose a vps for geekbench 24/7, always server grade CPUs can show lower numbers but the power is there.

  • emghemgh Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @Andru said:

    @Andru said:

    @emgh said:

    @Andru said:
    Depends of the user case. For virtualization go with Epyc, for web/game hosting go for ryzen.

    What if you want to virtualize it to host web/game?

    Game definetly no, but web.. why not?
    I can't imagine 30 VMs on this ryzen but 30 VMs on Epyc can handle it.

    Maybe I'am old school.. but for virtualisation every time I will chose a server grade CPU. All goes for multi-tasking. More cores more power.

    So you’re fine with the rebranded Ryzen’s (EPYC 4000) for virtualization but not their Ryzen counterpart?

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