KS-7 and RISE-S which one better

Nickman

KS-7
AMD Epyc 7451 - 24c/48t - 2.3GHz/3.2GHz
128GB DDR4 ECC 2400MHz
2× 500GB SSD NVMe Soft RAID
300Mbit/s unmetered
$86.00 /month
RISE-S
AMD Ryzen 7 9700X - 8c/16t - 3.8GHz/5.5GHz
64GB DDR5 ECC On-Die 5200MHz
2× 512GB SSD NVMe Soft RAID
1Gbit/s unmetered and guaranteed
$61.00 /month

which one is better?
and what's the reason?

hope to get some advice from guys

allthemtings

RISE-S wins everytime - the evidence is staring you in the face

Nickman

@allthemtings said:
RISE-S wins everytime - the evidence is staring you in the face

can u explain it in more detail?

wuck

One of the 2 is cheaper guaranteed 1gbps vs 300mbps the only advantage for KS-7 is core count now does it win against the 9700X depend on usage I guess but Rise-S seems like a no brainer

And Rise-S being brand new, high chance that you get brand new disk

allthemtings

Ryzen 3500 single core score / epyc is about 650-700 single core score

For gaming Ryzen is the obvious winner with the higher core score and ghz, im not sure on your website php/sql setup but im assuming you dont need 24cores for a single website so single core performance will be better

loay

@Nickman said:

@allthemtings said:
RISE-S wins everytime - the evidence is staring you in the face

can u explain it in more detail?
my current server always make the CPU over 70%, so wondering if for php and mysql, which one would be better?

• better single core performance
• DDR5
• Guaranteed 1Gbit/s

danblaze

I think especially with PHP, the 9700x with its higher single core performance would have a clear advantage.

wuck

It's less ram but it's 2 time the speed too and DDR5, I got the Rise-S and it's quite good

Nacorid

The only reason to get the KS-7 over the Rise-S is, if your application/stack needs lots of RAM (>64GB) and threads, but low computation per thread

Nickman

@allthemtings said:
Ryzen 3500 single core score / epyc is about 650-700 single core score

For gaming Ryzen is the obvious winner with the higher core score and ghz, im not sure on your website php/sql setup but im assuming you dont need 24cores for a single website so single core performance will be better

my websites is all articles and photos with wordpress and thinkphp.
about 3 million artilces, when CPU over 70%, check mysql with show procsslist, shows query like,
select *** from ** and ** order by. select ** left join***. select count *** from

allthemtings

@Nickman said:

@allthemtings said:
Ryzen 3500 single core score / epyc is about 650-700 single core score

For gaming Ryzen is the obvious winner with the higher core score and ghz, im not sure on your website php/sql setup but im assuming you dont need 24cores for a single website so single core performance will be better

my websites is all articles and photos with wordpress and thinkphp.
about 3 million artilces, when CPU over 70%, check mysql with show procsslist, shows query like,
select *** from ** and ** order by. select ** left join***. select count *** from

Yeah definitely go with the RISE-S it will work very well

Nickman

@Nacorid said:
The only reason to get the KS-7 over the Rise-S is, if your application/stack needs lots of RAM (>64GB) and threads, but low computation per thread

for RAM, 32GB seems already enough

Nickman

@allthemtings said:

@Nickman said:

@allthemtings said:
Ryzen 3500 single core score / epyc is about 650-700 single core score

For gaming Ryzen is the obvious winner with the higher core score and ghz, im not sure on your website php/sql setup but im assuming you dont need 24cores for a single website so single core performance will be better

my websites is all articles and photos with wordpress and thinkphp.
about 3 million artilces, when CPU over 70%, check mysql with show procsslist, shows query like,
select *** from ** and ** order by. select ** left join***. select count *** from

Yeah definitely go with the RISE-S it will work very well

ok, thanks so much for your advice

allthemtings

Whats your current server specs that runs at 70%? @Nickman

Nickman

@allthemtings said:
Whats your current server specs that runs at 70%? @Nickman

RYZEN 3600

wuck

Gonna be a good upgrade then

emgh

@Nickman said:

@allthemtings said:
Whats your current server specs that runs at 70%? @Nickman

RYZEN 3600

Get the Rise-S

Or even the EX44 if you want to try something a little bit cheaper

allthemtings

@Nickman said:

@allthemtings said:
Whats your current server specs that runs at 70%? @Nickman

RYZEN 3600

Yeah RISE-S will give you double the performance + New Drives + DDR5 RAM

Easiest choice of your life

allthemtings

@emgh said:

@Nickman said:

@allthemtings said:
Whats your current server specs that runs at 70%? @Nickman

RYZEN 3600

Or even the EX44 if you want to try something a little bit cheaper

emgh

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@Nickman said:

@allthemtings said:
Whats your current server specs that runs at 70%? @Nickman

RYZEN 3600

Or even the EX44 if you want to try something a little bit cheaper

Imagine sucking french pillesnopp and not even get paid for it

allthemtings

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@Nickman said:

@allthemtings said:
Whats your current server specs that runs at 70%? @Nickman

RYZEN 3600

Or even the EX44 if you want to try something a little bit cheaper

Imagine sucking french pillesnopp and not even get paid for it

code allthemtings for 50% off your next ovh order

allthemtings

stop being a hater @emgh put your ex44 in the bin and buy a nice new shiny rise-s

Andru

Depends of the user case. For virtualization go with Epyc, for web/game hosting go for ryzen.

emgh

@allthemtings said:
stop being a hater @emgh put your ex44 in the bin and buy a nice new shiny rise-s

The day I stop hating you should be seriously worried

And my EX44 already is in the bin

Replaced by Advance-1 for now

allthemtings

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:
stop being a hater @emgh put your ex44 in the bin and buy a nice new shiny rise-s

The day I stop hating you should be seriously worried

And my EX44 already is in the bin

Replaced by Advance-1 for now

emgh

@Andru said:
Depends of the user case. For virtualization go with Epyc, for web/game hosting go for ryzen.

What if you want to virtualize it to host web/game?

ralf

@emgh said:

@Andru said:
Depends of the user case. For virtualization go with Epyc, for web/game hosting go for ryzen.

What if you want to virtualize it to host web/game?

ENOERR

Andru

@emgh said:

@Andru said:
Depends of the user case. For virtualization go with Epyc, for web/game hosting go for ryzen.

What if you want to virtualize it to host web/game?

Game definetly no, but web.. why not?
I can't imagine 30 VMs on this ryzen but 30 VMs on Epyc can handle it.

emgh

@Andru said:

@emgh said:

@Andru said:
Depends of the user case. For virtualization go with Epyc, for web/game hosting go for ryzen.

What if you want to virtualize it to host web/game?

Game definetly no, but web.. why not?
I can't imagine 30 VMs on this ryzen but 30 VMs on Epyc can handle it.

I wouldn’t be so sure

Andru

@Andru said:

@emgh said:

@Andru said:
Depends of the user case. For virtualization go with Epyc, for web/game hosting go for ryzen.

What if you want to virtualize it to host web/game?

Game definetly no, but web.. why not?
I can't imagine 30 VMs on this ryzen but 30 VMs on Epyc can handle it.

Maybe I'am old school.. but for virtualisation every time I will chose a server grade CPU. All goes for multi-tasking. More cores more power.
If you chose a vps for geekbench 24/7, always server grade CPUs can show lower numbers but the power is there.

emgh

@Andru said:

@Andru said:

@emgh said:

@Andru said:
Depends of the user case. For virtualization go with Epyc, for web/game hosting go for ryzen.

What if you want to virtualize it to host web/game?

Game definetly no, but web.. why not?
I can't imagine 30 VMs on this ryzen but 30 VMs on Epyc can handle it.

Maybe I'am old school.. but for virtualisation every time I will chose a server grade CPU. All goes for multi-tasking. More cores more power.

So you’re fine with the rebranded Ryzen’s (EPYC 4000) for virtualization but not their Ryzen counterpart?