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Kimsufi/Soyoustart/OVH Rise New Price

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  • @Neoon said:

    @noisycode said:
    Would you please just spare my quote, cuz everytime I read your beast's yabs, i feel a stab in my back.

    Of course, I just quoted him though.
    Even if you got no upgrade, KS-LE-B is a steal for about 10€.

    Stabbing in the back would be if you look at Noxics 10$/m deal.
    https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/192920/#Comment_192920

    Looking at that, should make you feel way better.
    Plus, look at the current Kimsufi prices.

    You... I thought LET is a friendly community. Btw, how to get the Veteran tag? I registered the account back in Nov 2013. Late for the party?

    Thanked by 1laythe
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @noisycode said:

    @Neoon said:

    @noisycode said:
    Would you please just spare my quote, cuz everytime I read your beast's yabs, i feel a stab in my back.

    Of course, I just quoted him though.
    Even if you got no upgrade, KS-LE-B is a steal for about 10€.

    Stabbing in the back would be if you look at Noxics 10$/m deal.
    https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/192920/#Comment_192920

    Looking at that, should make you feel way better.
    Plus, look at the current Kimsufi prices.

    You... I thought LET is a friendly community. Btw, how to get the Veteran tag? I registered the account back in Nov 2013. Late for the party?

    I just tried to make you feel, better, since you said you got zero upgrades.
    No idea.

  • noisycodenoisycode Member
    edited December 2024

    @Neoon said:

    @noisycode said:

    @Neoon said:

    @noisycode said:
    Would you please just spare my quote, cuz everytime I read your beast's yabs, i feel a stab in my back.

    Of course, I just quoted him though.
    Even if you got no upgrade, KS-LE-B is a steal for about 10€.

    Stabbing in the back would be if you look at Noxics 10$/m deal.
    https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/192920/#Comment_192920

    Looking at that, should make you feel way better.
    Plus, look at the current Kimsufi prices.

    You... I thought LET is a friendly community. Btw, how to get the Veteran tag? I registered the account back in Nov 2013. Late for the party?

    I just tried to make you feel, better, since you said you got zero upgrades.
    No idea.

    Haha, thanks man, i’m healed. It's really lucky and nice of you.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @barbaros said:

    @emgh said:

    @wuck said:

    @emgh said:

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/md3):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 719.96 MB/s (179.9k) 976.94 MB/s (15.2k)
    Write 721.86 MB/s (180.4k) 982.09 MB/s (15.3k)
    Total 1.44 GB/s (360.4k) 1.95 GB/s (30.6k)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 1.14 GB/s (2.2k) 1.14 GB/s (1.1k)
    Write 1.20 GB/s (2.3k) 1.21 GB/s (1.1k)
    Total 2.35 GB/s (4.5k) 2.36 GB/s (2.3k)

    I was debating Advance-1 but how come those fio result are the same as my LE-3 which are Gen3 (when not using ZFS)? Advance has to be shipped with Gen4 right?

    Idk

    Ping me tomorrow and I'll check

    I did this though:
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4049504/#Comment_4049504

    Compared to my EX44 is was many many times higher (consumer vs. datacenter grade NVMe)

    ping

    SAMSUNG MZQL2960HCJR-00A07

  • anyone facing the same issue with the speed from LIM to RBX?
    Storage-Backup is slow as f*

    Curr: 171.99 MBit/s
    Avg: 142.14 MBit/s

    From Gavelines to RBX ~930Mbit/s

  • wuckwuck Member
    edited December 2024

    @emgh said:

    @barbaros said:

    @emgh said:

    @wuck said:

    @emgh said:

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/md3):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 719.96 MB/s (179.9k) 976.94 MB/s (15.2k)
    Write 721.86 MB/s (180.4k) 982.09 MB/s (15.3k)
    Total 1.44 GB/s (360.4k) 1.95 GB/s (30.6k)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 1.14 GB/s (2.2k) 1.14 GB/s (1.1k)
    Write 1.20 GB/s (2.3k) 1.21 GB/s (1.1k)
    Total 2.35 GB/s (4.5k) 2.36 GB/s (2.3k)

    I was debating Advance-1 but how come those fio result are the same as my LE-3 which are Gen3 (when not using ZFS)? Advance has to be shipped with Gen4 right?

    Idk

    Ping me tomorrow and I'll check

    I did this though:
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4049504/#Comment_4049504

    Compared to my EX44 is was many many times higher (consumer vs. datacenter grade NVMe)

    ping

    SAMSUNG MZQL2960HCJR-00A07

    Got those too with 80hr usage on it, bit disappointed with their 4k IOPS yabs

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @wuck said:

    @emgh said:

    @barbaros said:

    @emgh said:

    @wuck said:

    @emgh said:

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/md3):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 719.96 MB/s (179.9k) 976.94 MB/s (15.2k)
    Write 721.86 MB/s (180.4k) 982.09 MB/s (15.3k)
    Total 1.44 GB/s (360.4k) 1.95 GB/s (30.6k)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 1.14 GB/s (2.2k) 1.14 GB/s (1.1k)
    Write 1.20 GB/s (2.3k) 1.21 GB/s (1.1k)
    Total 2.35 GB/s (4.5k) 2.36 GB/s (2.3k)

    I was debating Advance-1 but how come those fio result are the same as my LE-3 which are Gen3 (when not using ZFS)? Advance has to be shipped with Gen4 right?

    Idk

    Ping me tomorrow and I'll check

    I did this though:
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4049504/#Comment_4049504

    Compared to my EX44 is was many many times higher (consumer vs. datacenter grade NVMe)

    ping

    SAMSUNG MZQL2960HCJR-00A07

    Got those too with 80hr usage on it, bit disappointed with their 4k IOPS yabs

    Yes agreed, EX44 with consumer disks seems faster for those:
    https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/136439/#Comment_136439

    That said, the test I linked earlier showed a huge difference in favor of this enterprise disk

  • @emgh said:

    @wuck said:

    @emgh said:

    @barbaros said:

    @emgh said:

    @wuck said:

    @emgh said:

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/md3):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 719.96 MB/s (179.9k) 976.94 MB/s (15.2k)
    Write 721.86 MB/s (180.4k) 982.09 MB/s (15.3k)
    Total 1.44 GB/s (360.4k) 1.95 GB/s (30.6k)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 1.14 GB/s (2.2k) 1.14 GB/s (1.1k)
    Write 1.20 GB/s (2.3k) 1.21 GB/s (1.1k)
    Total 2.35 GB/s (4.5k) 2.36 GB/s (2.3k)

    I was debating Advance-1 but how come those fio result are the same as my LE-3 which are Gen3 (when not using ZFS)? Advance has to be shipped with Gen4 right?

    Idk

    Ping me tomorrow and I'll check

    I did this though:
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4049504/#Comment_4049504

    Compared to my EX44 is was many many times higher (consumer vs. datacenter grade NVMe)

    ping

    SAMSUNG MZQL2960HCJR-00A07

    Got those too with 80hr usage on it, bit disappointed with their 4k IOPS yabs

    Yes agreed, EX44 with consumer disks seems faster for those:
    https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/136439/#Comment_136439

    That said, the test I linked earlier showed a huge difference in favor of this enterprise disk

    Yea I guess those are just better at anything but raw speed

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • @emgh said:

    @TomasSystems said:

    @barbarza said:

    @emgh said:

    @TomasSystems said:

    @emgh said:
    @TomasSystems @Neoon & any other OVH nerds

    How is Gravelines vs. Warsaw in terms of route quality, stability & likely to not go up in flames?

    Very late to the party....

    Warsaw is often routed through FRA anyway, I would avoid it to be honest if network is a big thing.

    Go GRA or LIM, they're probably the best locations for routing.

    If you need a good link to BHS, go with ERI.

    Thanks!!

    I changed my mind a few times since

    Newest question: If keeping the same IP for as long as possible going forward is important, without being limited by future deals, which EU DC/region is "least likely" to be a limitation of having my additional IP's bound to? That's far more important to me than having the best routing.

    As I understand it, it's either eu-west-gra, eu-west-rbx, and eu-west-sbg or 1 other region. Clear winner one of the three combined ones, right?

    Why don’t you get an additional “floating” ip? Those can be moved anywhere…

    They aren’t an option for BM.

    My Hetzner EX44 went up in flames. Maybe I did something but think it was hardware-related (have had no time to look into it). Everything corrupted basically (well, 50 % of things). Couldn’t even run a simple ’df’ without errors. Took it as a sign as I had just gotten my OVH + vRack + subnet (+ small stuff on top like DHCP and ip spoof blocking) setup ready. Restored from backup to a Proxmox KVM on the Advance-1 and so far works flawlessly.

    Thank you for the assistance. Ended up doing IPMI > Debian ISO > Install Proxmox.

    Struggled a bit in the beginning but I used the OVH Proxmox template first to see how they did stuff, and then replicated (ish) with my own ISO, partition scheme and filesystem.

    Thanks again!

    OVH heard you that you wanted to leave them

    Thanked by 2allthemtings emgh
  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @emgh said:

    @wuck said:

    @emgh said:

    @barbaros said:

    @emgh said:

    @wuck said:

    @emgh said:

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/md3):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 719.96 MB/s (179.9k) 976.94 MB/s (15.2k)
    Write 721.86 MB/s (180.4k) 982.09 MB/s (15.3k)
    Total 1.44 GB/s (360.4k) 1.95 GB/s (30.6k)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 1.14 GB/s (2.2k) 1.14 GB/s (1.1k)
    Write 1.20 GB/s (2.3k) 1.21 GB/s (1.1k)
    Total 2.35 GB/s (4.5k) 2.36 GB/s (2.3k)

    I was debating Advance-1 but how come those fio result are the same as my LE-3 which are Gen3 (when not using ZFS)? Advance has to be shipped with Gen4 right?

    Idk

    Ping me tomorrow and I'll check

    I did this though:
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4049504/#Comment_4049504

    Compared to my EX44 is was many many times higher (consumer vs. datacenter grade NVMe)

    ping

    SAMSUNG MZQL2960HCJR-00A07

    Got those too with 80hr usage on it, bit disappointed with their 4k IOPS yabs

    Yes agreed, EX44 with consumer disks seems faster for those:
    https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/136439/#Comment_136439

    That said, the test I linked earlier showed a huge difference in favor of this enterprise disk

    The ex44 is insane value no denying that

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @barbaros said: Good...

    😡

    Thanked by 1barbaros
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    Anyone got some quick tip for how I realize if I fucked the EX44 or if it's bad?

    Basically everything's corrupted, like 20 % of commands can be executed the rest gives segfaults etc

    If I were to reinstall it, and stuff works, that means it was my fault or that's not a guarantee of that?

  • @emgh said:
    Anyone got some quick tip for how I realize if I fucked the EX44 or if it's bad?

    Basically everything's corrupted, like 20 % of commands can be executed the rest gives segfaults etc

    If I were to reinstall it, and stuff works, that means it was my fault or that's not a guarantee of that?

    You tried the usual things I guess?

    • journalctl / syslog
    • memtest / smartctl
    • dmesg / lspci / lsblk
    Thanked by 1emgh
  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @emgh said:
    Anyone got some quick tip for how I realize if I fucked the EX44 or if it's bad?

    Basically everything's corrupted, like 20 % of commands can be executed the rest gives segfaults etc

    If I were to reinstall it, and stuff works, that means it was my fault or that's not a guarantee of that?

    you tried unplugging it and then plugging it back in?

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @allthemtings said:

    @emgh said:
    Anyone got some quick tip for how I realize if I fucked the EX44 or if it's bad?

    Basically everything's corrupted, like 20 % of commands can be executed the rest gives segfaults etc

    If I were to reinstall it, and stuff works, that means it was my fault or that's not a guarantee of that?

    you tried unplugging it and then plugging it back in?

    Hetzner unplugged it for me
    insert link to thread that got be severely warned :D

  • @Wolf said:

    @emgh said:
    Anyone got some quick tip for how I realize if I fucked the EX44 or if it's bad?

    Basically everything's corrupted, like 20 % of commands can be executed the rest gives segfaults etc

    If I were to reinstall it, and stuff works, that means it was my fault or that's not a guarantee of that?

    You tried the usual things I guess?

    • journalctl / syslog
    • memtest / smartctl
    • dmesg / lspci / lsblk

    Some kind of that commands can work, some doesn't. If @emgh is lucky, maybe check the 'history' just to make sure if any file system are (not) fucked up.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @tfgp99 said:

    @Wolf said:

    @emgh said:
    Anyone got some quick tip for how I realize if I fucked the EX44 or if it's bad?

    Basically everything's corrupted, like 20 % of commands can be executed the rest gives segfaults etc

    If I were to reinstall it, and stuff works, that means it was my fault or that's not a guarantee of that?

    You tried the usual things I guess?

    • journalctl / syslog
    • memtest / smartctl
    • dmesg / lspci / lsblk

    Some kind of that commands can work, some doesn't. If @emgh is lucky, maybe check the 'history' just to make sure if any file system are (not) fucked up.

    I shut it down yesterday, now it doesn't boot back up. Wanted to try the commands again to make sure I didn't miss anything but seems tough. Especially with no IPMI.

    Will see if anything occurs within the next 10 minutes otherwise I'll try rescue.

    Thanked by 1tfgp99
  • @allthemtings said:

    @emgh said:

    @wuck said:

    @emgh said:

    @barbaros said:

    @emgh said:

    @wuck said:

    @emgh said:

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/md3):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 719.96 MB/s (179.9k) 976.94 MB/s (15.2k)
    Write 721.86 MB/s (180.4k) 982.09 MB/s (15.3k)
    Total 1.44 GB/s (360.4k) 1.95 GB/s (30.6k)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 1.14 GB/s (2.2k) 1.14 GB/s (1.1k)
    Write 1.20 GB/s (2.3k) 1.21 GB/s (1.1k)
    Total 2.35 GB/s (4.5k) 2.36 GB/s (2.3k)

    I was debating Advance-1 but how come those fio result are the same as my LE-3 which are Gen3 (when not using ZFS)? Advance has to be shipped with Gen4 right?

    Idk

    Ping me tomorrow and I'll check

    I did this though:
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4049504/#Comment_4049504

    Compared to my EX44 is was many many times higher (consumer vs. datacenter grade NVMe)

    ping

    SAMSUNG MZQL2960HCJR-00A07

    Got those too with 80hr usage on it, bit disappointed with their 4k IOPS yabs

    Yes agreed, EX44 with consumer disks seems faster for those:
    https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/136439/#Comment_136439

    That said, the test I linked earlier showed a huge difference in favor of this enterprise disk

    The ex44 is insane value no denying that

    I wish it had ECC option

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @wuck said:

    @allthemtings said:

    @emgh said:

    @wuck said:

    @emgh said:

    @barbaros said:

    @emgh said:

    @wuck said:

    @emgh said:

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/md3):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 719.96 MB/s (179.9k) 976.94 MB/s (15.2k)
    Write 721.86 MB/s (180.4k) 982.09 MB/s (15.3k)
    Total 1.44 GB/s (360.4k) 1.95 GB/s (30.6k)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 1.14 GB/s (2.2k) 1.14 GB/s (1.1k)
    Write 1.20 GB/s (2.3k) 1.21 GB/s (1.1k)
    Total 2.35 GB/s (4.5k) 2.36 GB/s (2.3k)

    I was debating Advance-1 but how come those fio result are the same as my LE-3 which are Gen3 (when not using ZFS)? Advance has to be shipped with Gen4 right?

    Idk

    Ping me tomorrow and I'll check

    I did this though:
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4049504/#Comment_4049504

    Compared to my EX44 is was many many times higher (consumer vs. datacenter grade NVMe)

    ping

    SAMSUNG MZQL2960HCJR-00A07

    Got those too with 80hr usage on it, bit disappointed with their 4k IOPS yabs

    Yes agreed, EX44 with consumer disks seems faster for those:
    https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/136439/#Comment_136439

    That said, the test I linked earlier showed a huge difference in favor of this enterprise disk

    The ex44 is insane value no denying that

    I wish it had ECC option

    no ecc raid0 yolo and a prayer

    Thanked by 2emgh wuck
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @wuck said:

    @allthemtings said:

    @emgh said:

    @wuck said:

    @emgh said:

    @barbaros said:

    @emgh said:

    @wuck said:

    @emgh said:

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/md3):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 719.96 MB/s (179.9k) 976.94 MB/s (15.2k)
    Write 721.86 MB/s (180.4k) 982.09 MB/s (15.3k)
    Total 1.44 GB/s (360.4k) 1.95 GB/s (30.6k)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 1.14 GB/s (2.2k) 1.14 GB/s (1.1k)
    Write 1.20 GB/s (2.3k) 1.21 GB/s (1.1k)
    Total 2.35 GB/s (4.5k) 2.36 GB/s (2.3k)

    I was debating Advance-1 but how come those fio result are the same as my LE-3 which are Gen3 (when not using ZFS)? Advance has to be shipped with Gen4 right?

    Idk

    Ping me tomorrow and I'll check

    I did this though:
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4049504/#Comment_4049504

    Compared to my EX44 is was many many times higher (consumer vs. datacenter grade NVMe)

    ping

    SAMSUNG MZQL2960HCJR-00A07

    Got those too with 80hr usage on it, bit disappointed with their 4k IOPS yabs

    Yes agreed, EX44 with consumer disks seems faster for those:
    https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/136439/#Comment_136439

    That said, the test I linked earlier showed a huge difference in favor of this enterprise disk

    The ex44 is insane value no denying that

    I wish it had ECC option

    Hetzner don't like customization as it requires admin time (my conclusion based on their insane prices for extra stuff even though their base configs are cheap)

    They'd prefer you use default options

    The EX101 is the enterprise version of the EX44, a faster CPU is the most noticeable difference, but drives go from consumer to enterprise and RAM from non-ECC to ECC as well

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    OVH seems to treat upgrades (most of them, not the obscure ones) as equal configs that should all be in stock most of the time

    Hetzner only automates default configs and requires hands-on for custom stuff, probably much more streamlined this way

  • ifdongifdong Member
    edited December 2024

    Looking for ks-le-e or ks-le-b ssd anywhere. I have eu account. :) please give me a dm <3

  • wuckwuck Member
    edited December 2024

    @emgh said:
    OVH seems to treat upgrades (most of them, not the obscure ones) as equal configs that should all be in stock most of the time

    Hetzner only automates default configs and requires hands-on for custom stuff, probably much more streamlined this way

    I saw a git from 2 days ago that Advance line up will get possibility to directly swap hardware then choose when it will be done via dashboard (it's only possible atm for their top of the line)

    edit: https://github.com/ovh/infrastructure-roadmap/issues/246

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @wuck said:

    @emgh said:
    OVH seems to treat upgrades (most of them, not the obscure ones) as equal configs that should all be in stock most of the time

    Hetzner only automates default configs and requires hands-on for custom stuff, probably much more streamlined this way

    I saw a git from 2 days ago that Advance line up will get possibility to directly swap hardware then choose when it will be done via dashboard (it's only possible atm for their top of the line)

    edit: https://github.com/ovh/infrastructure-roadmap/issues/246

    Yep, they're actively working on the new Advance line

    This as well: https://github.com/ovh/infrastructure-roadmap/issues/215

    Release Date
    Dec 13, 2024
    
  • @emgh said:
    Anyone got some quick tip for how I realize if I fucked the EX44 or if it's bad?

    Basically everything's corrupted, like 20 % of commands can be executed the rest gives segfaults etc

    If I were to reinstall it, and stuff works, that means it was my fault or that's not a guarantee of that?

    Its you not the server…

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • I have KS-LE-E in RBX 4x2TB HDD without upgrades available.
    If anyone wants it, send me a DM

  • What was the spec for Rise-LE-4 again? Can't even access page they nuked it

  • @wuck said:
    What was the spec for Rise-LE-4 again? Can't even access page they nuked it

    AMD EPYC 7302
    4 TB NVME
    128 RAM

  • @alexj1982 said:
    I have KS-LE-E in RBX 4x2TB HDD without upgrades available.
    If anyone wants it, send me a DM

    Account region?

  • anyone with ks-a can share the yabs? and anyone got any upgrade with it?

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