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Kimsufi/Soyoustart/OVH Rise New Price

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  • @fredo1664 said: Has anyone ever recovered from a disk failure in a RAID5? By recovered I mean lived long enough to see the end of a rebuild after changing one disk?

    My first ever server in ... 199cough ... had a crash. I was still learning, so I managed to rebuild the area. After three weeks, I gave up. :blush: Since that time, I planned on never rebuilding a RAID area and just copying the data elsewhere, then restarting with a clean, empty RAID. For some reason, I have not experienced disk failures since then—touching wood.

    Thanked by 2fredo1664 yopp
  • @SteveMC said:
    Considering that the storage devices are "old", what do you think is the "safer", 3 x SSD or 3 x HDD (in RAID5) ?

    @fredo1664 said:

    @SteveMC said:
    Considering that the storage devices are "old", what do you think is the "safer", 3 x SSD or 3 x HDD (in RAID5) ?

    Has anyone ever recovered from a disk failure in a RAID5? By recovered I mean lived long enough to see the end of a rebuild after changing one disk?

    Storage is cheap and IMO it doesn’t make any sense to use anything but mirroring. I do data storage consulting for a living and from HA/FT pov it’s cheaper and faster to provide node-level redundancy with replication of sorts. Performance and recovery time penalty of raid rebuild is just ridiculous. It make sense in some environments but generally no

  • SteveMCSteveMC Member
    edited November 2024

    @yopp said: IMO it doesn’t make any sense to use anything but mirroring.

    Thank you for the recommendation.

    I was asking, because I was wondering what to do with 3 disks on the KS-LE-1.

  • @loay said:
    I have this server for transfer (CA account)

    KS-LE-1 GRA (upgraded ram and new disks from 2x480 GB to 2x960) - Renewal: $11.05/month

    CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1245 V2 @ 3.40GHz
    RAM: 31Gi
    RAM Type: None
    Disks:
    sda  disk 894.3G INTEL SSDSC2KB960G8
    sdb  disk 894.3G INTEL SSDSC2KB960G8
    Disk Power-On Hours:
    sda: 10778 hours
    sdb: 10778 hours
    

    How much for this?

  • @SteveMC said: I was asking, because I was wondering what to do with 3 disks on the KS-LE-1.

    They ask for RAID-5, obviously (need even number of disks for RAID-10, at least 4).

    But, due to disk age, the advice I have given, to put all three in a RAID-1 mirror is still on the table. If you really care about data on them.

    Finally, if you're an alpha male, RAID-0 of course, YOLO. :D

    Thanked by 3SteveMC yopp plumberg
  • yoppyopp Member
    edited November 2024

    @SteveMC said:

    @yopp said: IMO it doesn’t make any sense to use anything but mirroring.

    Thank you for the recommendation.

    I was asking, because I was wondering what to do with 3 disks on the KS-LE-1.

    Depends on what you want and how much do you care about data.

    On my current servers I did RAID0 stripe because they run small swarm cluster with network storage and my backups are spread around the globe: homelab, ovh, wasabi with “anti-ransomware mode” (fancy name for versioning). Plus day-to-day stuff in iCloud since I’m a tim apple fanboy :))

    Thanked by 1SteveMC
  • @fredo1664 said:
    Dear Octave I sent you an order by mail like when I was ordering shareware that came on floppy disk in the mail. I wrote it with my hands, it's more real than any other order. I demand that a technician spend 30 minutes prioritising my order thanks.

    Many years ago I had to order my first dedicated server in writing

    Thanked by 2fredo1664 yopp
  • Finally, if you're an alpha male, RAID-0 of course, YOLO. :D

    (hisses from dungeon: rclone)

    Thanked by 1maverick
  • blu3birdblu3bird Member
    edited November 2024

    I received my second RISE-LE-1 in LIM today.
    No hardware upgrade, but apparently the network has.

    YABS:

    ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##

    Yet-Another-Bench-Script

    v2024-06-09

    https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script

    ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##

    Wed Nov 27 23:31:31 UTC 2024

    Basic System Information:

    Uptime : 0 days, 0 hours, 3 minutes
    Processor : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2689 v4 @ 3.10GHz
    CPU cores : 20 @ 3800.000 MHz
    AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM : 62.7 GiB
    Swap : 2.0 GiB
    Disk : 1.7 TiB
    Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel : 6.8.12-4-pve
    VM Type : NONE
    IPv4/IPv6 : ✔ Online / ✔ Online

    IPv6 Network Information:

    ISP : OVH SAS
    ASN : AS16276 OVH SAS
    Host : OVH GmbH
    Location : Saarbrücken, Saarland (SL)
    Country : Germany

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/md3):

    Block Size | 4k (IOPS) | 64k (IOPS)
    ------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
    Read | 497.59 MB/s (124.3k) | 1.23 GB/s (19.3k)
    Write | 498.91 MB/s (124.7k) | 1.24 GB/s (19.4k)
    Total | 996.50 MB/s (249.1k) | 2.48 GB/s (38.8k)
    | |
    Block Size | 512k (IOPS) | 1m (IOPS)
    ------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
    Read | 1.22 GB/s (2.3k) | 1.27 GB/s (1.2k)
    Write | 1.28 GB/s (2.5k) | 1.35 GB/s (1.3k)
    Total | 2.51 GB/s (4.9k) | 2.63 GB/s (2.5k)
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):


    Provider Location (Link) Send Speed Recv Speed Ping
    Clouvider London, UK (10G) 7.47 Gbits/sec 7.19 Gbits/sec 13.3 ms
    Eranium Amsterdam, NL (100G) 9.35 Gbits/sec 9.06 Gbits/sec 8.37 ms
    Uztelecom Tashkent, UZ (10G) 2.57 Gbits/sec 2.27 Gbits/sec 100 ms
    Leaseweb Singapore, SG (10G) 540 Mbits/sec 871 Mbits/sec 163 ms
    Clouvider Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) 1.12 Gbits/sec 1.55 Gbits/sec 144 ms
    Leaseweb NYC, NY, US (10G) 2.37 Gbits/sec 1.47 Gbits/sec 86.8 ms
    Edgoo Sao Paulo, BR (1G) 885 Mbits/sec 1.18 Gbits/sec 191 ms

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):

    Provider Location (Link) Send Speed Recv Speed Ping
    Clouvider London, UK (10G) 6.90 Gbits/sec 6.42 Gbits/sec 13.2 ms
    Eranium Amsterdam, NL (100G) 9.23 Gbits/sec 8.77 Gbits/sec 8.78 ms
    Uztelecom Tashkent, UZ (10G) 1.87 Gbits/sec 2.51 Gbits/sec 100 ms
    Leaseweb Singapore, SG (10G) 1.20 Gbits/sec 1.43 Gbits/sec 163 ms
    Clouvider Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) 1.04 Gbits/sec 1.52 Gbits/sec 144 ms
    Leaseweb NYC, NY, US (10G) 1.67 Gbits/sec busy 86.9 ms
    Edgoo Sao Paulo, BR (1G) 781 Mbits/sec 1.15 Gbits/sec 191 ms

    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:

    Test | Value
    |
    Single Core | 1215
    Multi Core | 7263
    Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/9108810

    YABS completed in 13 min 19 sec

    Thanks to @yopp for the Telegram channel. Without it, I would not have been able to get the 2 servers.

    Is anyone interested in a KS-LE-C in RBX6?
    Just got an upgrade from RAM 32GB -> 64GB

    YABS: https://pastebin.com/sz78uDfy

    smartctl -a /dev/sda:
    https://pastebin.com/aCF4FyP9

    smartctl -a /dev/sdb
    https://pastebin.com/V8JyXeFD

    Would sell it for 15.99€ (incl. german taxes) via PayPal.
    Runs until 06.12. Renewal 15.99€ incl. german tax

    OVH EU/German Account.

    Thanked by 3maverick yopp SashkaPro
  • Holy 10Gbps up/down

  • Received shipment of an order for a KS-LE-E SSD, unfortunately no upgrades!

  • KS-LE-1 BHS up for grabs if anyone is interested (CA account). Renewal on 21 Dec. Looking for set up fee + remaining term ($20). Renews at $11.99/month.

    Specs:

    • CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1245 V2 @ 3.40GHz
    • RAM: 32GB (lotto upgrade)
    • SSD: 2x 960GB (lotto upgrade)
    • Network: 300/1000
    Thanked by 2plumberg JerryHou
  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @muffin said:
    KS-LE-1 BHS up for grabs if anyone is interested (CA account). Renewal on 21 Dec. Looking for set up fee + remaining term ($20). Renews at $11.99/month.

    Specs:

    • CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1245 V2 @ 3.40GHz
    • RAM: 32GB (lotto upgrade)
    • SSD: 2x 960GB (lotto upgrade)
    • Network: 300/1000

    Doesn't come with ipmi I guess?

  • @plumberg said:

    @muffin said:
    KS-LE-1 BHS up for grabs if anyone is interested (CA account). Renewal on 21 Dec. Looking for set up fee + remaining term ($20). Renews at $11.99/month.

    Specs:

    • CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1245 V2 @ 3.40GHz
    • RAM: 32GB (lotto upgrade)
    • SSD: 2x 960GB (lotto upgrade)
    • Network: 300/1000

    Doesn't come with ipmi I guess?

    Nope - probably from LE-2 and above 😌

    Thanked by 1plumberg
  • @muffin said:

    @plumberg said:

    @muffin said:
    KS-LE-1 BHS up for grabs if anyone is interested (CA account). Renewal on 21 Dec. Looking for set up fee + remaining term ($20). Renews at $11.99/month.

    Specs:

    • CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1245 V2 @ 3.40GHz
    • RAM: 32GB (lotto upgrade)
    • SSD: 2x 960GB (lotto upgrade)
    • Network: 300/1000

    Doesn't come with ipmi I guess?


    Nope - probably from LE-2 and above 😌

    Will take it if still available - PMing you.

    Thanked by 1plumberg
  • Do you test ipv6 for KS on BHS ?
    Im testing with intermittend packet loss over ipv6, and hetrixtools alerts are a lot.
    Im not sure that its only me or network ( im using ndppd )
    Some idea?

  • i have plan to purchase a sys or rise plan, how to test the server health? disk? what is the best way to review the performance, speed, hardware configuration?

  • satoriksatorik Member
    edited November 2024

    @aryanraj said:
    i have plan to purchase a sys or rise plan, how to test the server health? disk? what is the best way to review the performance, speed, hardware configuration?

    performance: geekbench 5/6 (yabs)
    speed: speedtest, yabs
    hardware: lspci, lshw, dmidecode
    disk: smartctl, fio (yabs)

    Thanked by 3ChillBird abtdw seoboy
  • @satorik said:

    @aryanraj said:
    i have plan to purchase a sys or rise plan, how to test the server health? disk? what is the best way to review the performance, speed, hardware configuration?

    performance: geekbench 5/6 (yabs)
    speed: speedtest, yabs
    hardware: lspci, lshw, dmidecode
    disk: smartctl, fio (yabs)

    That's what i was looking for. Thank you.

  • @yopp said:

    @emgh said:

    @yopp said: What the point limiting API orders? They are earning money renting servers out: any server that is just sitting in the rack is just burning money and make them look bad at the next earning call.

    It's almost as if you think the KS-A makes them money apart from marketing.

    I don’t see why they don't make them money. Basically, they stuff "thin-client" level hardware with a bit more memory in racks. Something like GIGABYTE GA-H110M-A, Dell XPS IPSKL-VM or some BMC crap.

    Retail price for systems like usually cost like ~500$ per unit retail. Most likely they got it with 20-30% discount. They rented them out for 129$ back in '17. My bet is that they got all their CAPEXes back in the first 18 months. So for the rest of their lifetime they cost them power, connectivity and floor space == peanuts.

    So yeah, I'm absolutely sure they are still making them monies

    They absolutely are. OVH clearly will cut them off once they aren’t worth it.

    Whilst you can expand and just build more data centres, and the old ones are still profitable enough, then keeping the cheap tiers going makes sense. The infrastructure is paid for, the operational aspects are well known.

    Eventually, the cost/benefit of closing down those services and rebuilding a DC for new hardware makes sense. That’s when you cull the cheap tiers, and move them onto the next server retirement village.

  • barbarosbarbaros Member
    edited November 2024

    @yopp said:
    What the point limiting API orders? They are earning money renting servers out: any server that is just sitting in the rack is just burning money and make them look bad at the next earning call.

    So they really want to sell as much as they possibly can. Most of sold stock will be sitting using 30-60 kW•h a month plus some minuscule amount of datacenter volume, since their servers are mostly custom built for density. It’s revenue that looks good on charts

    I doubt they are going to do shit about it. Heck, I think they won’t ever move a finger to fix something in Order API to avoid overselling the stock.

    My feeling is that they are keeping orders purely for 3 reasons:

    a) it’s a bloody mess for customer support and sales people right now
    b) it’s free PR and hype around. Quite crappy Black Friday server line went out of stock in a jiffy, because of FOMO they have created with flash sale
    c) they have shitload of done sales. if they have any kind of stock in their pipeline to fulfill orders, but it’s up to logistics, why bother canceling them?

    All this mess is a HUGE win for them either way

    Well there are few points. First, they don't need bot grabbers to sell their dirt cheap servers. It's not like they wouldn't be able to sell their 5 buck per month server without help of API orders via bots. More expensive deals, no one cares, people always goes for the cheapest servers. So I doubt they are grateful with the bot orders.

    Second, it's the sheer amount of people returning the mass ordered servers and getting a full refund including installation fee. So, a person could order 50 KS-LE-A, pick the lottery ones, and refund the remaining 45 servers, with paying only 5 servers. On the other hand, you need human workforce to process these refund requests, via tickets, it's not automated process. And then someone has to return these servers back to stock, not physically of course but I doubt they have automated system (considering they can't even manage their stocks properly).

    Third and the worst, people are buying the servers from market price, then selling them for a profit. I would imagine that would be the worst thing as it's pure scalping. And then these people request their servers to get transferred to new owner's account, which means more work force spent for nothing.

    Fourth, imagine your "Black Friday" stocks already run out, even before you managed to announce them, that wouldn't be a good image. When they announced LE-1-5 series, it was gone from their stocks in 3-4 hours. Which was working hours for most people in Europe, so plenty of people didn't even get a chance to see those deals.

    And lastly, I am not a marketing person, but I believe, getting new customers via cheap servers would be more profitable than your current customers buying more servers. As it's always hard to gain new customers. These deals bring in new customers, which then they get a chance to sell more things "domains, plenty of paid services in dashboard, other servers". Personally, I knew about OVH, but I got to be their customer with their Black Friday 2022 deals, otherwise their servers would be too expensive for me for idling.

    Long story short, I doubt they will get any solid solutions for people buying with bot. But even limiting opportunity of servers being transferred between accounts would make this less appealing for most people.

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    Ok - So, a long overdue KS-2 that I had ordered over 3 week ago was finally delivered today. Had completely forgot about it.

    Location: BHS
    OVH Subsidiary: World/ $/ CA

    Upgraded CPU: Intel Xeon-D 1541
    Disks: 4x2TB
    Network: 300 up/ 10gbps down
    Renewal: $21.10

    Do not have any need for it now. Willing to offer at cost

    Ask price: $42.20 (includes setup) + PayPal Txn Fees (Goods n Services)

    DM if interested.

    Yabs:

    [almalinux@ns557998 ~]$ curl -sL https://yabs.sh | bash
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2024-06-09                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Wed Nov 27 01:54:08 PM UTC 2024
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 1 hours, 0 minutes
    Processor  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU D-1541 @ 2.10GHz
    CPU cores  : 16 @ 2505.973 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 31.2 GiB
    Swap       : 2.0 GiB
    Disk       : 1.8 TiB
    Distro     : AlmaLinux 9.5 (Teal Serval)
    Kernel     : 5.14.0-503.14.1.el9_5.x86_64
    VM Type    : NONE
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : OVH SAS
    ASN        : AS16276 OVH SAS
    Host       : OVH Hosting, Inc.
    Location   : Montreal, Quebec (QC)
    Country    : Canada
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/md3):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 1.00 MB/s      (250) | 13.82 MB/s     (216)
    Write      | 1.03 MB/s      (257) | 14.43 MB/s     (225)
    Total      | 2.03 MB/s      (507) | 28.26 MB/s     (441)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 54.01 MB/s     (105) | 71.44 MB/s      (69)
    Write      | 56.95 MB/s     (111) | 76.19 MB/s      (74)
    Total      | 110.97 MB/s    (216) | 147.63 MB/s    (143)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 276 Mbits/sec   | 2.87 Gbits/sec  | 80.3 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 275 Mbits/sec   | 2.78 Gbits/sec  | 92.7 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | busy            | 765 Mbits/sec   | 186 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 214 Mbits/sec   | 758 Mbits/sec   | 242 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 277 Mbits/sec   | 440 Mbits/sec   | 69.2 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 290 Mbits/sec   | 7.57 Gbits/sec  | 10.1 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 267 Mbits/sec   | 2.01 Gbits/sec  | 119 ms
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | busy            | busy            | 81.8 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 272 Mbits/sec   | 2.47 Gbits/sec  | 92.7 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 251 Mbits/sec   | 811 Mbits/sec   | 185 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 74.8 Mbits/sec  | busy            | 242 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 272 Mbits/sec   | 3.40 Gbits/sec  | 68.4 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 284 Mbits/sec   | 8.69 Gbits/sec  | 9.84 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 265 Mbits/sec   | 1.98 Gbits/sec  | 118 ms
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 931
    Multi Core      | 4964
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/9101150
    
    YABS completed in 16 min 27 sec
    
    Thanked by 1Riz
  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @plumberg said:

    Ok - So, a long overdue KS-2 that I had ordered over 3 week ago was finally delivered today. Had completely forgot about it.

    Location: BHS
    OVH Subsidiary: World/ $/ CA

    Upgraded CPU: Intel Xeon-D 1541
    Disks: 4x2TB
    Network: 300 up/ 10gbps down
    Renewal: $21.10

    Do not have any need for it now. Willing to offer at cost

    Ask price: $42.20 (includes setup) + PayPal Txn Fees (Goods n Services)

    Server transferred to @Riz
    Quick and Pain free.

    Thanked by 1Riz
  • Thanks @plumberg and @muffin

    Thanked by 2plumberg muffin
  • I'm looking for a KS-LE-1 in C, please let me know

  • @loay said:
    I have this server for transfer (CA account)

    KS-LE-1 GRA (upgraded ram and new disks from 2x480 GB to 2x960) - Renewal: $11.05/month

    CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1245 V2 @ 3.40GHz
    RAM: 31Gi
    RAM Type: None
    Disks:
    sda  disk 894.3G INTEL SSDSC2KB960G8
    sdb  disk 894.3G INTEL SSDSC2KB960G8
    Disk Power-On Hours:
    sda: 10778 hours
    sdb: 10778 hours
    

    , he's asking 40$, for 23$ server. Such a greedy scalper , we should nvr buy from such scalper

  • KS-A orders aren't dead yet... maybe.. just maybe...

  • A few of my KS-LE-E hard drive orders were sent an email a few days ago indicating that they were cancelled and refunded, but it's been a few days and the orders are still pending and no refunds have been issued, will they still be shipped in this case?

  • @skygm said:
    A few of my KS-LE-E hard drive orders were sent an email a few days ago indicating that they were cancelled and refunded, but it's been a few days and the orders are still pending and no refunds have been issued, will they still be shipped in this case?

    I've seen one of my orders get delivered after receiving the cancellation email. I have seen a half dozen others here report the same. If you want any chance then don't demand a refund and let them hold payment until its returned to you.

    Thanked by 1skygm
  • @Proxecure said:

    @loay said:
    I have this server for transfer (CA account)

    KS-LE-1 GRA (upgraded ram and new disks from 2x480 GB to 2x960) - Renewal: $11.05/month

    CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1245 V2 @ 3.40GHz
    RAM: 31Gi
    RAM Type: None
    Disks:
    sda  disk 894.3G INTEL SSDSC2KB960G8
    sdb  disk 894.3G INTEL SSDSC2KB960G8
    Disk Power-On Hours:
    sda: 10778 hours
    sdb: 10778 hours
    

    , he's asking 40$, for 23$ server. Such a greedy scalper , we should nvr buy from such scalper

    You could've asked for the price here if you already have one and wanted the drama! Banks and PayPal fees are around 25% of this price in my country and I could've easily asked for a refund from OVH. I was actually going to post it in a separate service transfer post.

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