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  • @Andreix said: I don't have time to be flower-power or politically correct every time. I say what I have to say and that's pretty much it.

    As do I. The text wall explains it all. Ya aren't Mother Cabrini

    I've been keeping focus on those who hoard IPv4 since early 2010's and you're just like all the others, albeit smaller.

    Typical Delaware company who scooped up IPv4 with crazy deals, or straight up fake customer info.

    Hell, I know of some who made payoffs for 'consulting' to people who worked at ARIN in approvals. They wrote the replies to ARIN for them.

    Anyway, now you found another use for the IPs.

    Didn't say you're bad, just get off your high horse when it comes to others.

  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep
    edited November 2024

    @Kris said:

    @Andreix said: I don't have time to be flower-power or politically correct every time. I say what I have to say and that's pretty much it.

    As do I. The text wall explains it all. Ya aren't Mother Cabrini

    I've been keeping focus on those who hoard IPv4 since early 2010's and you're just like all the others, albeit smaller.

    Typical Delaware company who scooped up IPv4 with crazy deals, or straight up fake customer info.

    Hell, I know of some who made payoffs for 'consulting' to people who worked at ARIN in approvals. They wrote the replies to ARIN for them.

    Anyway, now you found another use for the IPs.

    Didn't say you're bad, just get off your high horse when it comes to others.

    No worries. I am not bothered by your comments, just felt the need to clear this out.

    Take care!

    Thanked by 1Kris
  • LowHostingLowHosting Member, Host Rep

    @Kris said:

    @Andreix said: So, I don't want to be a ZET customer, you don't want to be our customer. I am pretty sure I can live with that just fine.

    Agreed. I just see you often on your high horse of morality, but with your LayerBridge Delaware shell, and customers of LayerBridge who claim to have been stolen from, I'd stay far away from you.

    I have been a LayerBridge customer for a couple of years and haven't had any issues even after the migration.

    The service is still active at the same price, so I can't say anything bad about it. If I were scammed, I would have no problem saying so, but that's not the case :sweat_smile:

    Thanked by 2Andreix Kris
  • @AXYZE said:
    @zetservers offtopic, but I checked your website and noticed Unmetered Cloud Servers.
    The cheapest one is 25Gbps Unmetered, 1Gbps guaranteed, so does it mean on average it will be let say 10Gbps, never drop below 1Gbps and no matter how much traffic I will use there will be no throttling?

    Yes, that is right. Cloud Servers Host nodes are connected with 100Gbps ports and each Cloud Server is limited to 25Gbps. The minimum bandwidth available for Plan 1 is never below 1Gbps.

    @Andreix I invited you to test our services to give value to your reviews about our company. Your oppinion about a service you never tested simply has 0 (zero) value.

    @Kris Just as a comparison, we don't rent subnets. We own our subnets. Our subnets alone worth over 1 mil EUR. We are RIPE LIR, we are not registered overseas and our offices can be visited anytime. We don't hide behind fake addresses and don't use PO boxes. If you want to see our faces, search us on Linkedin. We offer to our customers a friendly environment to host their infrastructure, or get stable and optimized Internet access (IP transit/transport etc.) under our zet.net licensed backbone spread over 40 PoPs across EU and US. While a customer pay his invoices, respond to abuse reports and don't violate our TOS, I don't see a reason not to provide him with services.

  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep

    @zetservers said:

    @Andreix I invited you to test our services to give value to your reviews about our company. Your oppinion about a service you never tested simply has 0 (zero) value.

    You are completely right. If someone says your services are shitty without testing them first, their review is not a valid one.
    However, it's not the services performance I said I don't trust.

    Take care!

  • zmeuzmeu Member
    edited November 2024

    @Andreix how many times have you been banned there than Others? The truth hurts..

  • @Andreix so if you are happy with your current ISP (home Internet provider) you will disconnect from it just because your neighbor use the same ISP and you don't like his face? :smile:

    Thanked by 1naphtha
  • I never heard about this company in Romania being an ISP. Our primary ISPs are: DIGI, Orange and Vodafone. Telekom and UPC was sold.

  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep
    edited November 2024

    @zetservers said:
    @Andreix so if you are happy with your current ISP (home Internet provider) you will disconnect from it just because your neighbor use the same ISP and you don't like his face? :smile:

    Respectfully, that's just bullshit. What I said, and looks like I need to reiterate, is that I personally don't trust you and wouldn't want to be associated with your company, not even as much as "oh, they have services from ZET".

    From this to all "what if..." you are trying to do, it's a long way with no solid foundation relative to my affirmation.
    Haven't said at any moment your services are shit (at least not outside of my own mind). Just that I don't trust you and, as to my knowledge, I don't need to justify a reason on why I don't trust you. I simply don't and that's it.

    If you don't like that... well, what can I say?! Tough luck. Maybe other users trust your kind of providers and will unleash a tornado of orders. I won't.

    Take care!

    Thanked by 1zmeu
  • @zmeu It was just an example about how Andreix judge based on who buys a service from a company. We are not a home ISP. We only sell wholesale network services on our DWDM backbone. Based on Andreix judging, he wont buy for example Digi's Internet services just because he don't like some of Digi's customers.

    @Andreix if you publicly say that you don't trust or like X or Y's services it is fair to also give some solid reasons. The fact that you don't like Calin's services or Calin's customer of customer services has no value in this context. I am sure that you don't simply waste your time typing a few kilometers of no value text, so I am curious about the reasons behind your "i simply don't trust your company".

  • For example, Voxility it works in same way, they don't wants to associate their Businesses with some dudes, now you'll force them to tell you why ? Just, move on.

    Thanked by 1Andreix
  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep
    edited November 2024

    @zetservers said:
    @Andreix if you publicly say that you don't trust or like X or Y's services it is fair to also give some solid reasons. The fact that you don't like Calin's services or Calin's customer of customer services has no value in this context. I am sure that you don't simply waste your time typing a few kilometers of no value text, so I am curious about the reasons behind your "i simply don't trust your company".

    .

    @zmeu said:
    Just, move on.

    .

    Thanked by 1zmeu
  • My 2c
    I don't trust anything related with calin

  • @suyadi92 then disconnect from the Internet. It is related to Calin.

  • @zetservers said:
    @suyadi92 then disconnect from the Internet. It is related to Calin.

    No. I'm referring to you

  • @suyadi92 said:
    My 2c
    I don't trust anything related with calin

    Calin is super sketchy, but Zet has an absolutely massive network with quite a few customers. Their transit is also excellent for the price. If Calin got a port with Cogent (just as an example) would you start avoiding Cogent?

  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep

    @fluffernutter said:

    @suyadi92 said:
    My 2c
    I don't trust anything related with calin

    Calin is super sketchy, but Zet has an absolutely massive network with quite a few customers. Their transit is also excellent for the price. If Calin got a port with Cogent (just as an example) would you start avoiding Cogent?

    I have personally dropped *@cogentco.com in rspamd. It's about every individual's moral principles and personal preference.

  • forcing a relationship after a breakup.

  • @Andreix said:

    @fluffernutter said:

    @suyadi92 said:
    My 2c
    I don't trust anything related with calin

    Calin is super sketchy, but Zet has an absolutely massive network with quite a few customers. Their transit is also excellent for the price. If Calin got a port with Cogent (just as an example) would you start avoiding Cogent?

    I have personally dropped *@cogentco.com in rspamd. It's about every individual's moral principles and personal preference.

    Well yeah, everyone running a network will drop their emails, their sales team is legendary :)

    I do think all the hate towards Zet is unwarranted though. They run a solid network and do a lot of things right, there's no real reason to sling shit at them besides the fact that you personally don't like one of their customers. I'm glad that they're not cutting someone's port just because some people disagree with what they host.

    Thanked by 1Calin
  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep

    @fluffernutter said:

    @Andreix said:

    @fluffernutter said:

    @suyadi92 said:
    My 2c
    I don't trust anything related with calin

    Calin is super sketchy, but Zet has an absolutely massive network with quite a few customers. Their transit is also excellent for the price. If Calin got a port with Cogent (just as an example) would you start avoiding Cogent?

    I have personally dropped *@cogentco.com in rspamd. It's about every individual's moral principles and personal preference.

    Well yeah, everyone running a network will drop their emails, their sales team is legendary :)

    I do think all the hate towards Zet is unwarranted though. They run a solid network and do a lot of things right, there's no real reason to sling shit at them besides the fact that you personally don't like one of their customers. I'm glad that they're not cutting someone's port just because some people disagree with what they host.

    Totally agree with you with the bold part.
    I will say that Calin is a part, but not a major one, on why I personally do not trust some providers.

  • @Andreix said:

    @fluffernutter said:

    @Andreix said:

    @fluffernutter said:

    @suyadi92 said:
    My 2c
    I don't trust anything related with calin

    Calin is super sketchy, but Zet has an absolutely massive network with quite a few customers. Their transit is also excellent for the price. If Calin got a port with Cogent (just as an example) would you start avoiding Cogent?

    I have personally dropped *@cogentco.com in rspamd. It's about every individual's moral principles and personal preference.

    Well yeah, everyone running a network will drop their emails, their sales team is legendary :)

    I do think all the hate towards Zet is unwarranted though. They run a solid network and do a lot of things right, there's no real reason to sling shit at them besides the fact that you personally don't like one of their customers. I'm glad that they're not cutting someone's port just because some people disagree with what they host.

    Totally agree with you with the bold part.
    I will say that Calin is a part, but not a major one, on why I personally do not trust some providers.

    Calin is sketchy, but as long as he is not breaking the terms of any of his vendors I fully support his right to continue using those vendors. He's definitely digging a hole for himself that is going to be harder and harder to get out of. I don't see a reason to interrupt that process though.

    Thanked by 1Andreix
  • DasaboDasabo 🚩 Patron Provider Tag Suspended

    @zetservers is one of our suppliers and we can only say nice words about the quality of their service and support.

    Thanked by 2fluffernutter Calin
  • sandozsandoz Veteran
    edited November 2024

    Imagine avoiding Zetservers because they have Calin as Client.

    Zetservers aren’t responsible for any action made by their Clients / customers. Pretty sure Zetservers have that in their ToS and agreement most likely every provider have.

    Zetservers have good connection. Reliable, vouch for them. Pretty solid services. What Zetservers have to do with Calin business? They are just providing services, anything made by Calin is his fault, not Zet.

  • I really want to read Voxility terms.

  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep

    @zmeu said:
    I really want to read Voxility terms.

    Pretty generic things...

    Thanked by 1zmeu
  • zmeuzmeu Member
    edited November 2024

    As many do. So, how many people do reads before buying anything? Nobody cares, move on. There can be more examples, all of those are on first pages, if you got kicked out, nobody give you a reason.

  • DasaboDasabo 🚩 Patron Provider Tag Suspended

    @zmeu said:
    As many do. So, how many people do reads before buying anything? Nobody cares, move on. There can be more examples, all of those are on first pages, if you got kicked out, nobody give you a reason.

    I once started tracking this and I can tell you that only 3% of customers read the ToS before they buy, I would like everyone to read them as they accept them during the order phase so they don't have problems later on.

    Thanked by 1zmeu
  • this is childish man

  • @fluffernutter said:
    If Calin got a port with Cogent (just as an example) would you start avoiding Cogent?

    I'm talking about ties between calin and zetservers. See the thread's context.
    "Oh, disconnect from the internet?"
    "Oh, don't use cogent then?"

    Like, what the fuck?

  • naphthanaphtha Member
    edited November 2024

    @suyadi92 said:

    @fluffernutter said:
    If Calin got a port with Cogent (just as an example) would you start avoiding Cogent?

    I'm talking about ties between calin and zetservers. See the thread's context.
    "Oh, disconnect from the internet?"
    "Oh, don't use cogent then?"

    Like, what the fuck?

    what ties? you won't use a provider because they don't refuse to provide services to someone that's hated by some obscure forum on the internet? do you not realize how retarded that argument is? you don't seem to understand the difference between business and personal relationships

    a good business won't give a fuck about whoever uses their services or products, as long as they don't open them up to disproportionate liability and pay their bills on time

    at the end of the day, whatever you do is your business, but don't expect people to not challenge your opinion when you throw it out online

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