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  • @burchidS said:
    This is quite a surprise from ZetServers as they allow IP spoofing in their Romania location and never responded to any abuse reports about it, although this was about 2 months ago when I was looking into a website that sold VMs that allowed IP spoofing (blacknode.pro - no longer online). Their network obviously pointed to ZetServers' network but they never took action. This isn't the first time either; back in late 2023, the same people who ran blacknode.pro had another service selling VMs that allowed IP spoofing under the name "cyberhost.pro," but even then, ZetServers didn't do anything.

    I still remember when prime telecom was their upstream. the shit they were doing was insane

  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep

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  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    @Calin said: Hello if you like we possible give you:

    2x e5-2450l
    96 GB Ram
    1 TB SSD NVME
    25 GBs dedicated port speed
    Romania Location

    For 1669 euros/month (request payment 12 months in advanced)

    The fact that you have a platform to offer this guy a prepaid 20k€ service shows everything that is wrong with this forum nowadays.

  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep

    So, OP has issues with ZetServers, but TheCriminalsFriend offers him a server in ZET's rack @ Voxility?
    Damn logic...

    Thanked by 2jayjay glitch
  • @Andreix said:
    So, OP has issues with ZetServers, but TheCriminalsFriend offers him a server in ZET's rack @ Voxility?
    Damn logic...

    Voxility ceased our agreement for less than those 2 guys. 🤣

  • SululuSululu Member
    edited October 2024

    hmmm

  • Sorry for replying here, but I just found this thread and I see that it's alive since a few months now. Regarding to the OP's report:
    The customer was notified a few times about the malicious traffic that's sent from his server and not bothered to respond to any notification, so after 72 hours we suspended the server. Curiously the customer started spamming us with messages and tickets immediately after the server got suspended, so we agreed to have the server unsuspended if he provide us with a plan to avoid such situations from happening again in the future. There are ways to prevent scanning/flooding/spamming by using software firewalls. There are plenty of softwares doing this. Besides this, we have the option to announce customer's own subnets so they can directly get any abuse report and handle it faster/easier. A 3rd solution would be to seek and suspend VPN customers when they are found abusing the service + maybe some initial checks during signup. There are various ways to stop or at least reduce malicious traffic on VPN provider's servers. Obviously it is not enough for us to get a reply like "we are a VPN provider, accept the malicious traffic and ignore any abuse report".

    @subasrikiat238: Any business was a startup sometime. ZetServers was not founded with huge investors and was not managed by experienced engineers. It was built by a few talented young guys more than a decade ago who also made mistakes. We are now proud that we growed to a multi-million monthly earnings company relying on it's own hardware and network backbone distributed in over 40 datacenters accross Europe and USA. The only people that dislike our services are the one who were suspended for various reasons or that kind of customer who blame the hoster because "nano" is not their default text editor :smile:

    @Andreix: The logic is that many people seek our services due to the stability and high quality network. This is why also the OP bought services from us most probably. Calin probably wants to give him the chance to take the advantage of being connected to our network while he takes the risk for the malicious traffic.

    @burchidS: We never allowed IP spoofing on purpose. By default the VM/dedicated software blocks this type of traffic, but unfortunately the function didn't work properly for a few subnets. When discovered the issue, we patched it right away by applying uRPF strict check at the switches level.

    Thanked by 2Calin cu_olly
  • CalinCalin Member
    edited November 2024

    @zetservers said: The logic is that many people seek our services due to the stability and high quality network

    True, ZetServers have very quality network ,we have at zet 100 Gbps dedicated port speed,the port is really dedicated and the price is very cheap.ZetServers deliver what they say!!

    Thanks Zet For great work!!! <3

  • @Calin said: we have at zet 100 Gbps dedicated port speed,the port is really dedicated and the price is very cheap

    $20k where?

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  • @malignify said: $20k where?

    Probably hidden in his ass.

    Thanked by 1zmeu
  • @malignify said: $20k where?

    >

    I'm trying to post an update about this in the next 1-2 weeks, there are some things that move... but i m still waiting

  • HostSlickHostSlick 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @Calin said:

    @malignify said: $20k where?

    >

    I'm trying to post an update about this in the next 1-2 weeks, there are some things that move... but i m still waiting

    Hurry up. You might want to get your Provider Tag Back and make Black friday Sales. It is soon :)

  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep

    @zetservers said:
    @Andreix: The logic is that many people seek our services due to the stability and high quality network. This is why also the OP bought services from us most probably. Calin probably wants to give him the chance to take the advantage of being connected to our network while he takes the risk for the malicious traffic.

    I see criminal activity written all over it. But you call it whatever superb service you want. It's a free country afterall.

  • welcome back @andreix

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  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep
    edited November 2024

    @zmeu said:
    welcome back @andreix

    Thanks dawg!
    Missed me?

    Thanked by 1zmeu
  • zmeuzmeu Member
    edited November 2024

    To be honest I am missing that $20K more. :lol:

  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep

    @zmeu said:
    To be honest I am missing that $20K more. :lol:

    hater.

    Thanked by 1zmeu
  • @Andreix said: hater.

    I have a long-term business to run; and as I can see when you're honest you loose clients; you have to scam people to get rich.

    Should I change my perspective ?

  • SashkaProSashkaPro Member
    edited November 2024

    @zmeu said:
    I can see when you're honest you loose clients; you have to scam people to get rich.

    that s correct

    Thanked by 1zmeu
  • @malignify I don't follow the $20k topic :smile:
    @Calin Thank you for your review! We are glad that you enjoy using our services
    @Andreix I'm not sure if you are talking about our company being related to criminal activities, but if yes, you can see criminal activities linked to all hosting providers, including the biggest ones. That doesn't mean they are not legit businesses, don't take actions against it, rely on it or they are involved in it. Overall romanians mentality is: "Everything that's good needs to be sourced from outside Romania and everything that's made in Romania is s**t and needs to disappear" (Puya). Before judging take a look here: https://bgp.tools/as/6204#connectivity
    and here: https://www.peeringdb.com/net/34203
    If you didn't yet had the chance to test our services, I invite you to do it, then we can all take your review as valuable :wink:
    If you have anything to discuss about Calin's services, feel free to do it in a thread dedicated to his own services. This topic's title still has the "ZetServers" keyword in it :smiley:

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  • if @Calin recommends a provider thats a sign i wont trust them with my money

  • @gbzret4d in my oppinion that's not really the best strategy to choose a provider :smile: While I'm not aware what Calin's activities were or are, we welcomed him as a customer and helped him to build his infrastructure. We treat all our customers equally. From our point of view, he paid his invoices in time and respected his contractual obligations. This doesn't link our business in any way to other of his activities.

    Thanked by 1Calin
  • @zetservers offtopic, but I checked your website and noticed Unmetered Cloud Servers.
    The cheapest one is 25Gbps Unmetered, 1Gbps guaranteed, so does it mean on average it will be let say 10Gbps, never drop below 1Gbps and no matter how much traffic I will use there will be no throttling?

  • jahrincjahrinc Member
    edited November 2024

    @AXYZE said: offtopic, but I ?>checked your website and noticed Unmetered Cloud Servers.
    The cheapest one is 25Gbps Unmetered, 1Gbps guaranteed, so does it mean on average it >will be let say 10Gbps, never drop below 1Gbps and no matter how much traffic I will use >there will be no throttling?

    I was using them for a while but ended up moving to a dedi, you'll get mostly limited by the virtual NIC/cpu. I was using the 6 core plan using about 5-6Gbps and all the downloads (what I was proxying) became like 100Kb/s.

    But never had issues before using 3-4Gbps on that plan for months.

    Thanked by 2AXYZE Calin
  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep

    @zetservers said:
    @Andreix I'm not sure if you are talking about our company being related to criminal activities, but if yes, you can see criminal activities linked to all hosting providers, including the biggest ones. That doesn't mean they are not legit businesses, don't take actions against it, rely on it or they are involved in it. Overall romanians mentality is: "Everything that's good needs to be sourced from outside Romania and everything that's made in Romania is s**t and needs to disappear" (Puya). Before judging take a look here: https://bgp.tools/as/6204#connectivity
    and here: https://www.peeringdb.com/net/34203
    If you didn't yet had the chance to test our services, I invite you to do it, then we can all take your review as valuable :wink:
    If you have anything to discuss about Calin's services, feel free to do it in a thread dedicated to his own services. This topic's title still has the "ZetServers" keyword in it :smiley:

    Well, you do your best. Time will tell if it was ok or not.
    Regarding your invitation to try your services, I would have to respectfully decline. Wouldn't want to be associated with your brand, even if ZET would be the only provider in RO.

    Take care!

  • @Andreix said: Regarding your invitation to try your services, I would have to respectfully decline. Wouldn't want to be associated with your brand, even if ZET would be the only provider in RO.

    I'd say the same about someone renting ARIN IPv4 from out of country. Talk about criminal. Oh no wait, you all got an LLC in Delaware, that makes it okay! /s

    Carry on!

  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep

    @Kris said:

    @Andreix said: Regarding your invitation to try your services, I would have to respectfully decline. Wouldn't want to be associated with your brand, even if ZET would be the only provider in RO.

    I'd say the same about someone renting ARIN IPv4 from out of country. Talk about criminal. Oh no wait, you all got an LLC in Delaware, that makes it okay! /s

    Carry on!

    Allocation of ARIN space outside of the region is permitted by the policies. Nothing shady there.

    Also, regarding to what I said and you quoted, it is a matter of personal preference.
    So, I don't want to be a ZET customer, you don't want to be our customer. I am pretty sure I can live with that just fine.

  • @Andreix said: So, I don't want to be a ZET customer, you don't want to be our customer. I am pretty sure I can live with that just fine.

    Agreed. I just see you often on your high horse of morality, but with your LayerBridge Delaware shell, and customers of LayerBridge who claim to have been stolen from, I'd stay far away from you.

    Here's one of LayerBridge's negative reviews:

    Seems the IPs now go from LayerBridge to your new business, leasing IPs!

    Finally, I didn't mean announcing out of region, I meant it's sleazy to setup a US shell just to acquire some IPs, rug pull your customers and then use the old prefixes to rent.

    OrgName:        LayerBridge
    OrgId:          LL-933
    Address:        8 THE GREEN, STE R
    City:           Dover
    StateProv:      DE
    PostalCode:     19901
    Country:        US
    RegDate:        2021-01-27
    Updated:        2024-07-07
    Comment:        LayerBridge LLC
    Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/LL-933
    
    OrgAbuseHandle: ENGIN291-ARIN
    OrgAbuseName:   ENGINYRING-ABUSE
    OrgAbusePhone:  +0000000000 
    OrgAbuseEmail:  [email protected]
    

    Nothing illegal per se, just quit pretending like you're Mother Cabrini over here. You're just as shady, if not shadier. Calin at least rents his IPs.

  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep
    edited November 2024

    FYI, LayerBridge US is a separate entity from LayerBridge SRL.
    That review was posted long time after I sold my shares in the SRL entity. This was mostly due to lack of cooperation with the other shareholder of that SRL, and implicitly, lack of implication from that other party.

    With a mutually agreed internal policy, I got the approval to relocate customers from LayerBridge SRL, to ENGINYRING, not because of some uber profits I would make, but because people had pre-paid services that would go down for good. And they didn't deserve that.
    So, I took them and offered them their services back (including their original IPs - owned by the LLC), at my personal loss. As I haven't invoiced a single cent to them and simply offered the due date they had with LayerBridge. Some of them have 2028 as due date.

    So, that review is not a review of ENGINYRING or my practices, but of the actual shareholder of LayerBridge SRL, which you can publicly whois.

    Regarding the re-allocation of resources from LLC to ENGINYRING, that is a contractual agreement, not a pro-bono, for which we pay the US company for its allocated services/resources. So, taxes are generated from this, US and RO states are getting paid by us at their respective rates.

    Not to say that we use the resources in ARIN region actually, as ENGINYRING does not offer EU hosting as location, but only US and CA (which is ARIN). More than that, as already said, ARIN does permit out of region usage in their policy. So, even if we did use them in EU, it won't break ARIN's policies.

    I also believe we have different notions or understanding of the term "shady".
    I believe shady is hosting customers that have an easily dodgeable TOS that enable criminals to do their thing (that's what Calin does on ZET infra), while you belive shady is an EU company contracting services or resources from and US company.

    Forgot to mention: the guy that wrote the review received his service back on ENGINYRING, with ~2h downtime, for which I offered 60 days extra service for free. He refused to remove his review as a rant on current LayerBridge owner. That's ofc his choice. That guy actually contracted more services with us since then.

    Last but not least, I understand I may seem arrogant here and there and that's fine for me. With my life, time and money I get to choose what behavior I exhibit. I don't have time to be flower-power or politically correct every time. I say what I have to say and that's pretty much it.

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