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Is Netcup a Hetzner alternative?

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  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad
    edited May 2024

    @dataforest said: new hostsystems with 9754 coming asap.

    Previously you said (https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3915711#Comment_3915711) 7763? How is the single core speed with those 64/128 core CPUs in comparison to the previously used 32 core CPUs?
    And any progress on when the new servers will be available at PHP-Friends?

  • dataforestdataforest Member, Host Rep

    @lukast__ said:

    @dataforest said: new hostsystems with 9754 coming asap.

    Previously you said (https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3915711#Comment_3915711) 7763? How is the single core speed with those 64 core CPUs?
    And any progress on when the new servers will be available at PHP-Friends?

    Yes, but we got a very good project price for the 9754, I couldn't say no :) we have not yet benchmarked these CPUs yet.

    I have no ETA right now for PHP-Friends, I hope asap :(

    Thanked by 1lukast__
  • hyperhostsolutionshyperhostsolutions Member, Patron Provider

    @Emoun said:
    Hetzner disabled my verified account due to inactivity for over a year. Now, I am looking for an alternative VPS provider in Europe. My requirement is to host WordPress site for under $10/month.

    I found the Netcup G11 root server, but I am not sure about this provider.

    Can anyone please suggest an alternative?

    Interesting one to compare , if your comparing the performance Netcup outperforms hetzner's cloud server range with ease there EPYC Servers are much newer than hetzner range. from the usability site & support would favour hetzner. used Netcup quite a few years back and was solid ,each has there ups and downs

  • EmounEmoun Member

    @dataforest said:

    Avoro is prepaid, because of that we only offer payment methods which supports instant delivering of our products.

    Direct Debit payment method is generally used for recurring payments of monthly bills, Invoices etc.

    Being a prepaid hosting Avoro should include different payment options.

  • dataforestdataforest Member, Host Rep

    @Emoun said:

    @dataforest said:

    Avoro is prepaid, because of that we only offer payment methods which supports instant delivering of our products.

    Direct Debit payment method is generally used for recurring payments of monthly bills, Invoices etc.

    Being a prepaid hosting Avoro should include different payment options.

    We have different payment options: https://avoro.eu/en/payment-methods

  • EmounEmoun Member

    @dataforest said:

    @Emoun said:

    @dataforest said:

    Avoro is prepaid, because of that we only offer payment methods which supports instant delivering of our products.

    Direct Debit payment method is generally used for recurring payments of monthly bills, Invoices etc.

    Being a prepaid hosting Avoro should include different payment options.

    We have different payment options: https://avoro.eu/en/payment-methods

    Yes, I was referring to SEPA Transfer & Direct Debit.
    WISE Payments.

    Avoro Payment Methods.

    1. PayPal. Not supported in my country.

    2. Debit / Credit Card. Available but banks charge huge fee on currency conversion & Tax.

    3.Google Pay / Apple Pay: Dependent on VISA / Master Debit/Credit Card. Same#2

    4. PaysafeCard: Not supported.

    5. Klarna Sofort: Not Supported.

    6. Crypto: Banned

  • @dataforest said:

    @lukast__ said:

    @dataforest said: new hostsystems with 9754 coming asap.

    Previously you said (https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3915711#Comment_3915711) 7763? How is the single core speed with those 64 core CPUs?
    And any progress on when the new servers will be available at PHP-Friends?

    Yes, but we got a very good project price for the 9754, I couldn't say no :) we have not yet benchmarked these CPUs yet.

    I have no ETA right now for PHP-Friends, I hope asap :(

    ...if you need my assistance, let me know. ;)

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          A simple script to test network performance using speedtest-cli
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     Version            : v2024.05.09
     Global Speedtest   : wget -qO- network-speed.xyz | bash
     Region Speedtest   : wget -qO- network-speed.xyz | bash -s -- -r 
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Basic System Info
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     CPU Model          : AMD EPYC 9374F 32-Core Processor
     CPU Cores          : 4 @ 3699.958 MHz
     CPU Cache          : 512 KB
     AES-NI             : ✔ Enabled
     VM-x/AMD-V         : ✔ Enabled
     Total Disk         : 49.1 GB (2.9 GB Used)
     Total RAM          : 15.6 GB (398.2 MB Used)
     Total Swap         : 1024.0 MB (0 Used)
     System uptime      : 11 days, 9 hour 22 min
     Load average       : 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
     OS                 : Debian GNU/Linux 12
     Arch               : x86_64 (64 Bit)
     Kernel             : 6.1.0-21-amd64
     Virtualization     : KVM
     TCP Control        : cubic
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Basic Network Info
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Primary Network    : IPv6
     IPv6 Access        : ✔ Online
     IPv4 Access        : ✔ Online
     ISP                : dataforest GmbH
     ASN                : AS58212 dataforest GmbH
     Host               : DF Cloud
     Location           : Frankfurt am Main, Hesse-HE, Germany
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     Speedtest.net (Region: EUROPE)
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Location         Latency     Loss    DL Speed       UP Speed       Server
    
     ISP: dataforest
    
     Nearest          1.01 ms     0.0%    16654.12 Mbps  12149.46 Mbps  FynnCraft Minecraft Network - Dortmund
    
     London, UK       14.40 ms    0.0%    8582.24 Mbps   425.43 Mbps    RETN - London
     Manchester, UK   20.91 ms    N/A     9388.93 Mbps   3750.59 Mbps   Vodafone UK - Manchester
     Dublin, IE       24.68 ms    0.0%    8397.05 Mbps   312.38 Mbps    Three Ireland - Dublin
     Amsterdam, NL    6.59 ms     0.5%    7038.65 Mbps   638.73 Mbps    Melbicom - Amsterdam
     Eygelshoen, NL   13.00 ms    0.0%    6568.14 Mbps   493.76 Mbps    SkyLink Data Center BV - Eygelshoven
     Paris, FR        13.11 ms    0.0%    7766.31 Mbps   511.67 Mbps    Scaleway - Paris
     Marseille, FR    14.11 ms    N/A     8223.67 Mbps   411.30 Mbps    ORANGE FRANCE - Marseille
     Madrid, ES       28.59 ms    0.0%    12669.81 Mbps  181.36 Mbps    Orange - Madrid
     Barcelona, ES    25.77 ms    0.0%    9393.92 Mbps   983.27 Mbps    Adamo - Barcelona
     Lisbon, PT       36.15 ms    0.0%    5426.79 Mbps   211.08 Mbps    Edgoo Networks - Lisbon
     Rome, IT         24.53 ms    0.0%    8211.57 Mbps   985.47 Mbps    TIM SpA - Rome
     Milan, IT        22.30 ms    0.0%    9262.61 Mbps   634.95 Mbps    Fastweb SpA - Milan
     Zurich, CH       8.99 ms     0.0%    6315.82 Mbps   764.86 Mbps    Sunrise Communication AG - Zurich
     Frankfurt, DE    FAILED
     Berlin, DE       14.62 ms    0.0%    7765.35 Mbps   621.78 Mbps    Misaka Network, Inc. - Berlin
     Vienna, AT       12.33 ms    0.0%    9170.32 Mbps   873.69 Mbps    A1 Telekom Austria AG - Vienna
     Budapest, HU     14.17 ms    0.0%    4311.69 Mbps   383.33 Mbps    ATW Internet Kft. - Budapest
     Gdansk, PL       19.95 ms    0.0%    3902.18 Mbps   3328.58 Mbps   T-Mobile Polska S.A. - Gdańsk
     Warsaw, PL       FAILED
     Lviv, UA         29.48 ms    0.0%    8178.63 Mbps   939.33 Mbps    Kyivstar - Lviv
     Kyiv, UA         28.30 ms    0.0%    5377.08 Mbps   628.01 Mbps    O3 - Kyiv
     Bucharest, RO    27.65 ms    0.0%    3803.00 Mbps   679.40 Mbps    Orange Romania SA - Bucuresti
     Timisoara, RO    18.64 ms    0.0%    6133.42 Mbps   303.18 Mbps    Digi
     Helsinki, FI     22.52 ms    0.0%    6281.15 Mbps   318.19 Mbps    Elisa Oyj - Helsinki
     Stockholm, SE    28.73 ms    0.0%    5768.59 Mbps   326.15 Mbps    i3D.net - Stockholm
     Oslo, NO         21.73 ms    0.0%    6145.38 Mbps   416.82 Mbps    Telia Norge AS - Oslo
     Moscow, RU       38.54 ms    0.0%    6171.15 Mbps   445.99 Mbps    MTS - Moscow
     Petersburg, RU   34.48 ms    0.0%    9339.95 Mbps   529.65 Mbps    MegaFon - Saint Petersburg
     Istanbul, TR     38.51 ms    0.0%    8957.50 Mbps   578.41 Mbps    Turkcell - Istanbul
     Tbilisi, GE      FAILED - IP has been rate limited. Try again after 1 hour.
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     Avg DL Speed       : 7685.86 Mbps
     Avg UL Speed       : 1172.40 Mbps
    
     Total DL Data      : 287.30 GB
     Total UL Data      : 45.08 GB
     Total Data         : 332.39 GB
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Duration           : 12 min 58 sec
     System Time        : 20/05/2024 - 19:38:16 CEST
     Total Script Runs  : 43948
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    Mon May 20 07:39:15 PM CEST 2024
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 11 days, 9 hours, 36 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 9374F 32-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 4 @ 3699.958 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 15.6 GiB
    Swap       : 1024.0 MiB
    Disk       : 49.1 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-21-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : dataforest GmbH
    ASN        : AS58212 dataforest GmbH
    Host       : DF Cloud
    Location   : Frankfurt am Main, Hesse (HE)
    Country    : Germany
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 391.47 MB/s  (97.8k) | 3.91 GB/s    (61.2k)
    Write      | 392.50 MB/s  (98.1k) | 3.93 GB/s    (61.5k)
    Total      | 783.98 MB/s (195.9k) | 7.85 GB/s   (122.7k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 14.08 GB/s   (27.5k) | 20.29 GB/s   (19.8k)
    Write      | 14.83 GB/s   (28.9k) | 21.64 GB/s   (21.1k)
    Total      | 28.92 GB/s   (56.4k) | 41.94 GB/s   (40.9k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.58 Gbits/sec  | 5.11 Gbits/sec  | 12.3 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 1.90 Gbits/sec  | 8.64 Gbits/sec  | --
    Telia           | Helsinki, FI (10G)        | busy            | busy            | 26.1 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 987 Mbits/sec   | 1.95 Gbits/sec  | 88.9 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 126 Mbits/sec   | busy            | 289 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | busy            | busy            | 144 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 292 Mbits/sec   | 2.29 Gbits/sec  | 82.3 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 311 Mbits/sec   | 957 Mbits/sec   | 168 ms
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 399 Mbits/sec   | 6.48 Gbits/sec  | 12.6 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | busy            | busy            | --
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 270 Mbits/sec   | 2.11 Gbits/sec  | 89.0 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 58.0 Mbits/sec  | 5.45 Mbits/sec  | 291 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | busy            | busy            | 144 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 510 Mbits/sec   | 2.27 Gbits/sec  | 81.8 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 211 Mbits/sec   | 1.03 Gbits/sec  | 167 ms
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 2081
    Multi Core      | 6684
    
    YABS completed in 15 min 28 sec
    
  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    @dataforest only one question: if you have such 128 core processors (maybe even dual), and therefore likely around 100 VMs per server, will the physical server be connected "only" with 20 Gbit/s like it is currently, or with more?

  • dataforestdataforest Member, Host Rep

    @lukast__ said:
    @dataforest only one question: if you have such 128 core processors (maybe even dual), and therefore likely around 100 VMs per server, will the physical server be connected "only" with 20 Gbit/s like it is currently, or with more?

    Hi, no still 2x 10 GBit/s for external connectivity.

    Thanked by 1lukast__
  • EmounEmoun Member

    I have got a good deal from @Clouvider

    Thanked by 1Clouvider
  • netcup dont have auto snapshoot backup and it is a shame for such big company.

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