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Kimsufi/Soyoustart/OVH Rise New Price

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  • @sgheghele said:
    Is download speed on Kimsufi always 1 Gbit/s?

    Yes, somewhere in the forum a member posted that support confirmed this practice. They offer 1 Gbps as download and only upload limited on KS and SYS.

    Thanked by 1sgheghele
  • bugabugabugabuga Member
    edited November 2024

    @fuqet said:
    Is it possible that OVH changed my network speed from 1000/1000 Mbps ipv4 / iptv6 to 1000/300 ? :smiley:

    I've installed Windows OS and now it looks like there is only 300Mbps upload.

    I think if you have an intervention on your server the tech will reset your network to 300/1gbit.. Just a guess..

  • I do know if you blast too much on a 10G lottery port, OVH would set it back to default in quit short time.

  • fuqetfuqet Member
    edited November 2024

    Intrevenetions are disabled on the server. I didn't get any notification about any work/intervetion being done on my server.

    EDIT:

    It came back to normal somehow after reset from the panel:

    Best Results
    948.13 Mbps
    948.86 Mbps

    False alarm.

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @fuqet said:
    Intrevenetions are disabled on the server. I didn't get any notification about any work/intervetion being done on my server.

    EDIT:

    It came back to normal somehow after reset from the panel:

    Best Results
    948.13 Mbps
    948.86 Mbps

    False alarm.

    Lucky

  • So I was having a bit of fun today with the API and the python-ovh helper that OVH provides here: https://github.com/ovh/python-ovh

    I've made a python script which queries the API for the datacenters I like, for servers with a name that starts with the string I like (for example, "KS-LE", "KS-A").

    The script loops every xx seconds, and shows me what's available.

    Once I find something I like, I press CTRL-C to stop the loop and it lets me buy the server.

    I have tested with a KS-5 and it worked.

    It looks like this:

    I've put it on Github: https://github.com/bousquetfrederic/buy_ovh

    It needs an ovh.conf file like OVH explains here: https://github.com/ovh/python-ovh

    This comes with zero support of course. I don't recommend anyone uses it. It does what the website does anyway.

    Also I suck at Python, so it's pythonically not a great piece of software.
    The exception handling is basically if something strange happens, ignore it, so I am not responsible if the script orders 16 expensive servers.

    I thought I'd share, maybe someone will want to help me make it better.

  • Looking for KS-A or KS-LE-B server to buy, PM me with your price

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @HeadSun said:
    Looking for KS-A or KS-LE-B server to buy, PM me with your price

    Right. You just joined and your first comment is begging for a server.

  • @plumberg said:

    @HeadSun said:
    Looking for KS-A or KS-LE-B server to buy, PM me with your price

    Right. You just joined and your first comment is begging for a server.

    :D

    Thanked by 1majster
  • Anybody tried KS-LE-A with ZFS RAID-5?

    I found out that its abysmally slow. 200Mbps going straight to the disk completly freezes NoMachine and SSH commands respond after like 2 seconds. I needed to limit it to 100Mbps so it is still accessible and usable when downloading.

    I think the oldass 72k hour HDD is causing this issue, but OVH didn't respond to the ticket about replacing it so far... :/
    @Pilzbaum have you noticed such bad performance when ARC overflows (so basically more than 50GB file)?

  • magnockmagnock Member
    edited November 2024

    just a got a KS-LE-C with same advertised specs, no 64 RAM, slow old SSDs. I'm still waiting for a KS-LE-B, ordered 2 days ago, we'll see :(

    Thanked by 1fullclick32
  • @AXYZE said:
    Anybody tried KS-LE-A with ZFS RAID-5?

    I found out that its abysmally slow. 200Mbps going straight to the disk completly freezes NoMachine and SSH commands respond after like 2 seconds. I needed to limit it to 100Mbps so it is still accessible and usable when downloading.

    I think the oldass 72k hour HDD is causing this issue, but OVH didn't respond to the ticket about replacing it so far... :/
    @Pilzbaum have you noticed such bad performance when ARC overflows (so basically more than 50GB file)?

    I am running a RAID-Z on a KS-LE-A at the moment. Haven't noticed any issues so far. But I am trying to move some big files to check if I can reproduce your issue.

    Does the issue occur while starting the write operation or after a certain amount?

  • Just had my KS-2 from the 1st of November delivered, still no -E HDD though unfortunately. Hoping some other options show up around Black Friday, else I'll probably end up sticking with my leaseweb 16T boxes :(

  • I think they’re really busy because of all the orders from this flash sale.

    At least I got my KS-LE-C online for a few days now, waiting for the KS-LE-B, probably going to cancel the KS-LE-C when the B is delivered.

  • @LBF said:
    I think they’re really busy because of all the orders from this flash sale.

    At least I got my KS-LE-C online for a few days now, waiting for the KS-LE-B, probably going to cancel the KS-LE-C when the B is delivered.

    I'll try the same thing, do you think they will refund the whole amount ?

  • @magnock said:

    @LBF said:
    I think they’re really busy because of all the orders from this flash sale.

    At least I got my KS-LE-C online for a few days now, waiting for the KS-LE-B, probably going to cancel the KS-LE-C when the B is delivered.

    I'll try the same thing, do you think they will refund the whole amount ?

    I wouldn't bet on them refunding install fee

  • @magnock said:

    @LBF said:
    I think they’re really busy because of all the orders from this flash sale.

    At least I got my KS-LE-C online for a few days now, waiting for the KS-LE-B, probably going to cancel the KS-LE-C when the B is delivered.

    I'll try the same thing, do you think they will refund the whole amount ?

    I think they have to within the first 14 days as long as you’re in the EU.

  • @Multi said:

    @AXYZE said:
    Anybody tried KS-LE-A with ZFS RAID-5?

    I found out that its abysmally slow. 200Mbps going straight to the disk completly freezes NoMachine and SSH commands respond after like 2 seconds. I needed to limit it to 100Mbps so it is still accessible and usable when downloading.

    I think the oldass 72k hour HDD is causing this issue, but OVH didn't respond to the ticket about replacing it so far... :/
    @Pilzbaum have you noticed such bad performance when ARC overflows (so basically more than 50GB file)?

    I am running a RAID-Z on a KS-LE-A at the moment. Haven't noticed any issues so far. But I am trying to move some big files to check if I can reproduce your issue.

    Does the issue occur while starting the write operation or after a certain amount?

    I do not get it. If I peg the array with FIO write test there is no lag with both SSH and NoMachine with 200MB/s write. Once I start downloading file in Chrome/qBittorrent it gets slowed down to oblivion by 200Mb/s / 25MB/s.
    There is no way SSL/AES decryption is that demanding. It's not RAM either, I get 20833 MiB/s in RAM Benchmark. Somehow ZFS does "something" that completly crawls the system. I never had such issue on any of my ZFS arrays/dedis.

  • @AXYZE said:
    Anybody tried KS-LE-A with ZFS RAID-5?

    I found out that its abysmally slow. 200Mbps going straight to the disk completly freezes NoMachine and SSH commands respond after like 2 seconds. I needed to limit it to 100Mbps so it is still accessible and usable when downloading.

    I think the oldass 72k hour HDD is causing this issue, but OVH didn't respond to the ticket about replacing it so far... :/
    @Pilzbaum have you noticed such bad performance when ARC overflows (so basically more than 50GB file)?

    KS-LE-A on ZFS RAID 1

    ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##

    Yet-Another-Bench-Script

    v2024-06-09

    https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script

    ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##

    Sat Nov 9 05:33:13 UTC 2024

    Basic System Information:

    Uptime : 0 days, 0 hours, 10 minutes
    Processor : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1225 V2 @ 3.20GHz
    CPU cores : 4 @ 2374.728 MHz
    AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM : 15.5 GiB
    Swap : 1.5 GiB
    Disk : 987.4 MiB
    Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel : 6.1.0-26-amd64
    VM Type : NONE
    IPv4/IPv6 : ✔ Online / ✔ Online

    IPv6 Network Information:

    ISP : OVH SAS
    ASN : AS16276 OVH SAS
    Host : OVH SAS
    Location : Roubaix, Hauts-de-France (HDF)
    Country : France

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition zp0/zd0):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 14.18 MB/s (3.5k) 195.92 MB/s (3.0k)
    Write 14.20 MB/s (3.5k) 196.95 MB/s (3.0k)
    Total 28.38 MB/s (7.0k) 392.87 MB/s (6.1k)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 359.21 MB/s (701) 345.98 MB/s (337)
    Write 378.30 MB/s (738) 369.03 MB/s (360)
    Total 737.52 MB/s (1.4k) 715.01 MB/s (697)

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):

    Provider Location (Link) Send Speed Recv Speed Ping
    Clouvider London, UK (10G) 286 Mbits/sec 922 Mbits/sec 4.46 ms
    Eranium Amsterdam, NL (100G) 286 Mbits/sec 935 Mbits/sec 5.74 ms
    Uztelecom Tashkent, UZ (10G) 205 Mbits/sec 266 Mbits/sec 108 ms
    Leaseweb Singapore, SG (10G) 77.3 Mbits/sec 421 Mbits/sec 160 ms
    Clouvider Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) 173 Mbits/sec 246 Mbits/sec 137 ms
    Leaseweb NYC, NY, US (10G) 261 Mbits/sec 662 Mbits/sec 76.0 ms
    Edgoo Sao Paulo, BR (1G) 163 Mbits/sec 335 Mbits/sec 185 ms

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):

    Provider Location (Link) Send Speed Recv Speed Ping
    Clouvider London, UK (10G) 918 Mbits/sec 920 Mbits/sec 4.51 ms
    Eranium Amsterdam, NL (100G) 918 Mbits/sec 921 Mbits/sec 5.77 ms
    Uztelecom Tashkent, UZ (10G) 786 Mbits/sec 259 Mbits/sec 108 ms
    Leaseweb Singapore, SG (10G) 656 Mbits/sec 518 Mbits/sec 160 ms
    Clouvider Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) 787 Mbits/sec 144 Mbits/sec 137 ms
    Leaseweb NYC, NY, US (10G) 868 Mbits/sec 640 Mbits/sec 76.0 ms
    Edgoo Sao Paulo, BR (1G) 767 Mbits/sec 217 Mbits/sec 185 ms

    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:

    Test | Value
    |
    Single Core | 724
    Multi Core | 2276
    Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/8731756

    I used them install Wizard with ZFS and Raid 5 but it become ZFS Raid 1 for me so you might want check the raid again

  • @kenjing789 said:

    @AXYZE said:
    Anybody tried KS-LE-A with ZFS RAID-5?

    I found out that its abysmally slow. 200Mbps going straight to the disk completly freezes NoMachine and SSH commands respond after like 2 seconds. I needed to limit it to 100Mbps so it is still accessible and usable when downloading.

    I think the oldass 72k hour HDD is causing this issue, but OVH didn't respond to the ticket about replacing it so far... :/
    @Pilzbaum have you noticed such bad performance when ARC overflows (so basically more than 50GB file)?

    KS-LE-A on ZFS RAID 1

    ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##

    Yet-Another-Bench-Script

    v2024-06-09

    https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script

    ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##

    Sat Nov 9 05:33:13 UTC 2024

    Basic System Information:

    Uptime : 0 days, 0 hours, 10 minutes
    Processor : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1225 V2 @ 3.20GHz
    CPU cores : 4 @ 2374.728 MHz
    AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM : 15.5 GiB
    Swap : 1.5 GiB
    Disk : 987.4 MiB
    Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel : 6.1.0-26-amd64
    VM Type : NONE
    IPv4/IPv6 : ✔ Online / ✔ Online

    IPv6 Network Information:

    ISP : OVH SAS
    ASN : AS16276 OVH SAS
    Host : OVH SAS
    Location : Roubaix, Hauts-de-France (HDF)
    Country : France

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition zp0/zd0):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 14.18 MB/s (3.5k) 195.92 MB/s (3.0k)
    Write 14.20 MB/s (3.5k) 196.95 MB/s (3.0k)
    Total 28.38 MB/s (7.0k) 392.87 MB/s (6.1k)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 359.21 MB/s (701) 345.98 MB/s (337)
    Write 378.30 MB/s (738) 369.03 MB/s (360)
    Total 737.52 MB/s (1.4k) 715.01 MB/s (697)

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):

    Provider Location (Link) Send Speed Recv Speed Ping
    Clouvider London, UK (10G) 286 Mbits/sec 922 Mbits/sec 4.46 ms
    Eranium Amsterdam, NL (100G) 286 Mbits/sec 935 Mbits/sec 5.74 ms
    Uztelecom Tashkent, UZ (10G) 205 Mbits/sec 266 Mbits/sec 108 ms
    Leaseweb Singapore, SG (10G) 77.3 Mbits/sec 421 Mbits/sec 160 ms
    Clouvider Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) 173 Mbits/sec 246 Mbits/sec 137 ms
    Leaseweb NYC, NY, US (10G) 261 Mbits/sec 662 Mbits/sec 76.0 ms
    Edgoo Sao Paulo, BR (1G) 163 Mbits/sec 335 Mbits/sec 185 ms

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):

    Provider Location (Link) Send Speed Recv Speed Ping
    Clouvider London, UK (10G) 918 Mbits/sec 920 Mbits/sec 4.51 ms
    Eranium Amsterdam, NL (100G) 918 Mbits/sec 921 Mbits/sec 5.77 ms
    Uztelecom Tashkent, UZ (10G) 786 Mbits/sec 259 Mbits/sec 108 ms
    Leaseweb Singapore, SG (10G) 656 Mbits/sec 518 Mbits/sec 160 ms
    Clouvider Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) 787 Mbits/sec 144 Mbits/sec 137 ms
    Leaseweb NYC, NY, US (10G) 868 Mbits/sec 640 Mbits/sec 76.0 ms
    Edgoo Sao Paulo, BR (1G) 767 Mbits/sec 217 Mbits/sec 185 ms

    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:

    Test | Value
    |
    Single Core | 724
    Multi Core | 2276
    Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/8731756

    I used them install Wizard with ZFS and Raid 5 but it become ZFS Raid 1 for me so you might want check the raid again

    My yabs is absolutely fine just like on what you have posted. I see CPU usage is total 99% with Chrome/qBittorrent download, but I do not see any process that uses that - everything sums up to roughly 15-20%. Something not visible eats rest and I think that is the ZFS. I need to diagnose it somehow

  • @LBF said:

    @magnock said:

    @LBF said:
    I think they’re really busy because of all the orders from this flash sale.

    At least I got my KS-LE-C online for a few days now, waiting for the KS-LE-B, probably going to cancel the KS-LE-C when the B is delivered.

    I'll try the same thing, do you think they will refund the whole amount ?

    I think they have to within the first 14 days as long as you’re in the EU.

    With my French account they refund the setup fee plus the price of the server minus the time you used it (pro rata).

    That's how I don't pay setup fees when I don't want to. I cancel, get the refund, then cancel the cancellation and get a new invoice for the remaining of the month, without setup fees.

  • AXYZEAXYZE Member
    edited November 2024

    @AXYZE said:

    @kenjing789 said:

    @AXYZE said:
    Anybody tried KS-LE-A with ZFS RAID-5?

    I found out that its abysmally slow. 200Mbps going straight to the disk completly freezes NoMachine and SSH commands respond after like 2 seconds. I needed to limit it to 100Mbps so it is still accessible and usable when downloading.

    I think the oldass 72k hour HDD is causing this issue, but OVH didn't respond to the ticket about replacing it so far... :/
    @Pilzbaum have you noticed such bad performance when ARC overflows (so basically more than 50GB file)?

    KS-LE-A on ZFS RAID 1

    ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##

    Yet-Another-Bench-Script

    v2024-06-09

    https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script

    ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##

    Sat Nov 9 05:33:13 UTC 2024

    Basic System Information:

    Uptime : 0 days, 0 hours, 10 minutes
    Processor : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1225 V2 @ 3.20GHz
    CPU cores : 4 @ 2374.728 MHz
    AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM : 15.5 GiB
    Swap : 1.5 GiB
    Disk : 987.4 MiB
    Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel : 6.1.0-26-amd64
    VM Type : NONE
    IPv4/IPv6 : ✔ Online / ✔ Online

    IPv6 Network Information:

    ISP : OVH SAS
    ASN : AS16276 OVH SAS
    Host : OVH SAS
    Location : Roubaix, Hauts-de-France (HDF)
    Country : France

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition zp0/zd0):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 14.18 MB/s (3.5k) 195.92 MB/s (3.0k)
    Write 14.20 MB/s (3.5k) 196.95 MB/s (3.0k)
    Total 28.38 MB/s (7.0k) 392.87 MB/s (6.1k)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 359.21 MB/s (701) 345.98 MB/s (337)
    Write 378.30 MB/s (738) 369.03 MB/s (360)
    Total 737.52 MB/s (1.4k) 715.01 MB/s (697)

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):

    Provider Location (Link) Send Speed Recv Speed Ping
    Clouvider London, UK (10G) 286 Mbits/sec 922 Mbits/sec 4.46 ms
    Eranium Amsterdam, NL (100G) 286 Mbits/sec 935 Mbits/sec 5.74 ms
    Uztelecom Tashkent, UZ (10G) 205 Mbits/sec 266 Mbits/sec 108 ms
    Leaseweb Singapore, SG (10G) 77.3 Mbits/sec 421 Mbits/sec 160 ms
    Clouvider Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) 173 Mbits/sec 246 Mbits/sec 137 ms
    Leaseweb NYC, NY, US (10G) 261 Mbits/sec 662 Mbits/sec 76.0 ms
    Edgoo Sao Paulo, BR (1G) 163 Mbits/sec 335 Mbits/sec 185 ms

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):

    Provider Location (Link) Send Speed Recv Speed Ping
    Clouvider London, UK (10G) 918 Mbits/sec 920 Mbits/sec 4.51 ms
    Eranium Amsterdam, NL (100G) 918 Mbits/sec 921 Mbits/sec 5.77 ms
    Uztelecom Tashkent, UZ (10G) 786 Mbits/sec 259 Mbits/sec 108 ms
    Leaseweb Singapore, SG (10G) 656 Mbits/sec 518 Mbits/sec 160 ms
    Clouvider Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) 787 Mbits/sec 144 Mbits/sec 137 ms
    Leaseweb NYC, NY, US (10G) 868 Mbits/sec 640 Mbits/sec 76.0 ms
    Edgoo Sao Paulo, BR (1G) 767 Mbits/sec 217 Mbits/sec 185 ms

    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:

    Test | Value
    |
    Single Core | 724
    Multi Core | 2276
    Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/8731756

    I used them install Wizard with ZFS and Raid 5 but it become ZFS Raid 1 for me so you might want check the raid again

    My yabs is absolutely fine just like on what you have posted. I see CPU usage is total 99% with Chrome/qBittorrent download, but I do not see any process that uses that - everything sums up to roughly 15-20%. Something not visible eats rest and I think that is the ZFS. I need to diagnose it somehow

    Disabling swap with 'swapoff -a' fixed this issue completly. CPU went from 99% during downloading in Chrome/qBitTorrent to 25-45%. Weird, RAM usage was just 9GB / 16GB and now after disabling swap its 10GB / 16GB.

    Edit: I've read online that this issue is caused by context switching/rebalancing between ARC Cache and Linux page cache that has SWAP. All my other ZFS machines are 32-128GB RAM and I never saw such issue.

  • mwmw Member

    @AXYZE said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @kenjing789 said:

    @AXYZE said:
    Anybody tried KS-LE-A with ZFS RAID-5?

    I found out that its abysmally slow. 200Mbps going straight to the disk completly freezes NoMachine and SSH commands respond after like 2 seconds. I needed to limit it to 100Mbps so it is still accessible and usable when downloading.

    I think the oldass 72k hour HDD is causing this issue, but OVH didn't respond to the ticket about replacing it so far... :/
    @Pilzbaum have you noticed such bad performance when ARC overflows (so basically more than 50GB file)?

    KS-LE-A on ZFS RAID 1

    ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##

    Yet-Another-Bench-Script

    v2024-06-09

    https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script

    ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##

    Sat Nov 9 05:33:13 UTC 2024

    Basic System Information:

    Uptime : 0 days, 0 hours, 10 minutes
    Processor : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1225 V2 @ 3.20GHz
    CPU cores : 4 @ 2374.728 MHz
    AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM : 15.5 GiB
    Swap : 1.5 GiB
    Disk : 987.4 MiB
    Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel : 6.1.0-26-amd64
    VM Type : NONE
    IPv4/IPv6 : ✔ Online / ✔ Online

    IPv6 Network Information:

    ISP : OVH SAS
    ASN : AS16276 OVH SAS
    Host : OVH SAS
    Location : Roubaix, Hauts-de-France (HDF)
    Country : France

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition zp0/zd0):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 14.18 MB/s (3.5k) 195.92 MB/s (3.0k)
    Write 14.20 MB/s (3.5k) 196.95 MB/s (3.0k)
    Total 28.38 MB/s (7.0k) 392.87 MB/s (6.1k)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 359.21 MB/s (701) 345.98 MB/s (337)
    Write 378.30 MB/s (738) 369.03 MB/s (360)
    Total 737.52 MB/s (1.4k) 715.01 MB/s (697)

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):

    Provider Location (Link) Send Speed Recv Speed Ping
    Clouvider London, UK (10G) 286 Mbits/sec 922 Mbits/sec 4.46 ms
    Eranium Amsterdam, NL (100G) 286 Mbits/sec 935 Mbits/sec 5.74 ms
    Uztelecom Tashkent, UZ (10G) 205 Mbits/sec 266 Mbits/sec 108 ms
    Leaseweb Singapore, SG (10G) 77.3 Mbits/sec 421 Mbits/sec 160 ms
    Clouvider Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) 173 Mbits/sec 246 Mbits/sec 137 ms
    Leaseweb NYC, NY, US (10G) 261 Mbits/sec 662 Mbits/sec 76.0 ms
    Edgoo Sao Paulo, BR (1G) 163 Mbits/sec 335 Mbits/sec 185 ms

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):

    Provider Location (Link) Send Speed Recv Speed Ping
    Clouvider London, UK (10G) 918 Mbits/sec 920 Mbits/sec 4.51 ms
    Eranium Amsterdam, NL (100G) 918 Mbits/sec 921 Mbits/sec 5.77 ms
    Uztelecom Tashkent, UZ (10G) 786 Mbits/sec 259 Mbits/sec 108 ms
    Leaseweb Singapore, SG (10G) 656 Mbits/sec 518 Mbits/sec 160 ms
    Clouvider Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) 787 Mbits/sec 144 Mbits/sec 137 ms
    Leaseweb NYC, NY, US (10G) 868 Mbits/sec 640 Mbits/sec 76.0 ms
    Edgoo Sao Paulo, BR (1G) 767 Mbits/sec 217 Mbits/sec 185 ms

    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:

    Test | Value
    |
    Single Core | 724
    Multi Core | 2276
    Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/8731756

    I used them install Wizard with ZFS and Raid 5 but it become ZFS Raid 1 for me so you might want check the raid again

    My yabs is absolutely fine just like on what you have posted. I see CPU usage is total 99% with Chrome/qBittorrent download, but I do not see any process that uses that - everything sums up to roughly 15-20%. Something not visible eats rest and I think that is the ZFS. I need to diagnose it somehow

    Disabling swap with 'swapoff -a' fixed this issue completly. CPU went from 99% during downloading in Chrome/qBitTorrent to 25-45%. Weird, RAM usage was just 9GB / 16GB and now after disabling swap its 10GB / 16GB.

    Turn swap back on and turn swappiness to 1

  • @AXYZE said:

    @Multi said:

    @AXYZE said:
    Anybody tried KS-LE-A with ZFS RAID-5?

    I found out that its abysmally slow. 200Mbps going straight to the disk completly freezes NoMachine and SSH commands respond after like 2 seconds. I needed to limit it to 100Mbps so it is still accessible and usable when downloading.

    I think the oldass 72k hour HDD is causing this issue, but OVH didn't respond to the ticket about replacing it so far... :/
    @Pilzbaum have you noticed such bad performance when ARC overflows (so basically more than 50GB file)?

    I am running a RAID-Z on a KS-LE-A at the moment. Haven't noticed any issues so far. But I am trying to move some big files to check if I can reproduce your issue.

    Does the issue occur while starting the write operation or after a certain amount?

    I do not get it. If I peg the array with FIO write test there is no lag with both SSH and NoMachine with 200MB/s write. Once I start downloading file in Chrome/qBittorrent it gets slowed down to oblivion by 200Mb/s / 25MB/s.
    There is no way SSL/AES decryption is that demanding. It's not RAM either, I get 20833 MiB/s in RAM Benchmark. Somehow ZFS does "something" that completly crawls the system. I never had such issue on any of my ZFS arrays/dedis.

    You're running chrome on the machine? Running Linux desktop enviroment or Windows? I have tried everything to get a similar load but never had problems you decribe.

  • @mw said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @kenjing789 said:

    @AXYZE said:
    Anybody tried KS-LE-A with ZFS RAID-5?

    I found out that its abysmally slow. 200Mbps going straight to the disk completly freezes NoMachine and SSH commands respond after like 2 seconds. I needed to limit it to 100Mbps so it is still accessible and usable when downloading.

    I think the oldass 72k hour HDD is causing this issue, but OVH didn't respond to the ticket about replacing it so far... :/
    @Pilzbaum have you noticed such bad performance when ARC overflows (so basically more than 50GB file)?

    KS-LE-A on ZFS RAID 1

    ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##

    Yet-Another-Bench-Script

    v2024-06-09

    https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script

    ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##

    Sat Nov 9 05:33:13 UTC 2024

    Basic System Information:

    Uptime : 0 days, 0 hours, 10 minutes
    Processor : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1225 V2 @ 3.20GHz
    CPU cores : 4 @ 2374.728 MHz
    AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM : 15.5 GiB
    Swap : 1.5 GiB
    Disk : 987.4 MiB
    Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel : 6.1.0-26-amd64
    VM Type : NONE
    IPv4/IPv6 : ✔ Online / ✔ Online

    IPv6 Network Information:

    ISP : OVH SAS
    ASN : AS16276 OVH SAS
    Host : OVH SAS
    Location : Roubaix, Hauts-de-France (HDF)
    Country : France

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition zp0/zd0):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 14.18 MB/s (3.5k) 195.92 MB/s (3.0k)
    Write 14.20 MB/s (3.5k) 196.95 MB/s (3.0k)
    Total 28.38 MB/s (7.0k) 392.87 MB/s (6.1k)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 359.21 MB/s (701) 345.98 MB/s (337)
    Write 378.30 MB/s (738) 369.03 MB/s (360)
    Total 737.52 MB/s (1.4k) 715.01 MB/s (697)

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):

    Provider Location (Link) Send Speed Recv Speed Ping
    Clouvider London, UK (10G) 286 Mbits/sec 922 Mbits/sec 4.46 ms
    Eranium Amsterdam, NL (100G) 286 Mbits/sec 935 Mbits/sec 5.74 ms
    Uztelecom Tashkent, UZ (10G) 205 Mbits/sec 266 Mbits/sec 108 ms
    Leaseweb Singapore, SG (10G) 77.3 Mbits/sec 421 Mbits/sec 160 ms
    Clouvider Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) 173 Mbits/sec 246 Mbits/sec 137 ms
    Leaseweb NYC, NY, US (10G) 261 Mbits/sec 662 Mbits/sec 76.0 ms
    Edgoo Sao Paulo, BR (1G) 163 Mbits/sec 335 Mbits/sec 185 ms

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):

    Provider Location (Link) Send Speed Recv Speed Ping
    Clouvider London, UK (10G) 918 Mbits/sec 920 Mbits/sec 4.51 ms
    Eranium Amsterdam, NL (100G) 918 Mbits/sec 921 Mbits/sec 5.77 ms
    Uztelecom Tashkent, UZ (10G) 786 Mbits/sec 259 Mbits/sec 108 ms
    Leaseweb Singapore, SG (10G) 656 Mbits/sec 518 Mbits/sec 160 ms
    Clouvider Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) 787 Mbits/sec 144 Mbits/sec 137 ms
    Leaseweb NYC, NY, US (10G) 868 Mbits/sec 640 Mbits/sec 76.0 ms
    Edgoo Sao Paulo, BR (1G) 767 Mbits/sec 217 Mbits/sec 185 ms

    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:

    Test | Value
    |
    Single Core | 724
    Multi Core | 2276
    Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/8731756

    I used them install Wizard with ZFS and Raid 5 but it become ZFS Raid 1 for me so you might want check the raid again

    My yabs is absolutely fine just like on what you have posted. I see CPU usage is total 99% with Chrome/qBittorrent download, but I do not see any process that uses that - everything sums up to roughly 15-20%. Something not visible eats rest and I think that is the ZFS. I need to diagnose it somehow

    Disabling swap with 'swapoff -a' fixed this issue completly. CPU went from 99% during downloading in Chrome/qBitTorrent to 25-45%. Weird, RAM usage was just 9GB / 16GB and now after disabling swap its 10GB / 16GB.

    Turn swap back on and turn swappiness to 1

    Re-enabled with swapiness set to '10'.
    After one minute SWAP is used 0.5GB/1.5GB, RAM usage went from 10GB to 9.5GB, CPU usage went to 60-70% average.
    After 3 minutes SWAP is used 1GB/1.5GB, RAM usage went to 9.2GB and CPU usage went to 70-80% and I have massive lags inside both SSH and NoMachine is basically unusable (new frame draws every couple of seconds).

    I'll try with swapiness set to '1' now.

  • @Multi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @Multi said:

    @AXYZE said:
    Anybody tried KS-LE-A with ZFS RAID-5?

    I found out that its abysmally slow. 200Mbps going straight to the disk completly freezes NoMachine and SSH commands respond after like 2 seconds. I needed to limit it to 100Mbps so it is still accessible and usable when downloading.

    I think the oldass 72k hour HDD is causing this issue, but OVH didn't respond to the ticket about replacing it so far... :/
    @Pilzbaum have you noticed such bad performance when ARC overflows (so basically more than 50GB file)?

    I am running a RAID-Z on a KS-LE-A at the moment. Haven't noticed any issues so far. But I am trying to move some big files to check if I can reproduce your issue.

    Does the issue occur while starting the write operation or after a certain amount?

    I do not get it. If I peg the array with FIO write test there is no lag with both SSH and NoMachine with 200MB/s write. Once I start downloading file in Chrome/qBittorrent it gets slowed down to oblivion by 200Mb/s / 25MB/s.
    There is no way SSL/AES decryption is that demanding. It's not RAM either, I get 20833 MiB/s in RAM Benchmark. Somehow ZFS does "something" that completly crawls the system. I never had such issue on any of my ZFS arrays/dedis.

    You're running chrome on the machine? Running Linux desktop enviroment or Windows? I have tried everything to get a similar load but never had problems you decribe.

    Ubuntu 24.04 + Gnome.
    Issue is completly gone when I enter 'swapoff -a' into SSH.
    Server installed from OVH Ubuntu template with ZFS RAID-Z1/RAID-5 set there + installed GNOME Minimal via apt.
    I would completly understand if I would have typical OOM issues, but without SWAP there is no issues whatsoever and I'm not even close to utilizing all RAM. Additionally this only happens when downloading via Chrome or qBittorrent. With wget and curl there is no issues whatsover. Hmmmm... maybe GNOME has some memory leak with ZFS?

  • @AXYZE said:

    @Multi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @Multi said:

    @AXYZE said:
    Anybody tried KS-LE-A with ZFS RAID-5?

    I found out that its abysmally slow. 200Mbps going straight to the disk completly freezes NoMachine and SSH commands respond after like 2 seconds. I needed to limit it to 100Mbps so it is still accessible and usable when downloading.

    I think the oldass 72k hour HDD is causing this issue, but OVH didn't respond to the ticket about replacing it so far... :/
    @Pilzbaum have you noticed such bad performance when ARC overflows (so basically more than 50GB file)?

    I am running a RAID-Z on a KS-LE-A at the moment. Haven't noticed any issues so far. But I am trying to move some big files to check if I can reproduce your issue.

    Does the issue occur while starting the write operation or after a certain amount?

    I do not get it. If I peg the array with FIO write test there is no lag with both SSH and NoMachine with 200MB/s write. Once I start downloading file in Chrome/qBittorrent it gets slowed down to oblivion by 200Mb/s / 25MB/s.
    There is no way SSL/AES decryption is that demanding. It's not RAM either, I get 20833 MiB/s in RAM Benchmark. Somehow ZFS does "something" that completly crawls the system. I never had such issue on any of my ZFS arrays/dedis.

    You're running chrome on the machine? Running Linux desktop enviroment or Windows? I have tried everything to get a similar load but never had problems you decribe.

    Ubuntu 24.04 + Gnome.
    Issue is completly gone when I enter 'swapoff -a' into SSH.
    Server installed from OVH Ubuntu template with ZFS RAID-Z1/RAID-5 set there + installed GNOME Minimal via apt.
    I would completly understand if I would have typical OOM issues, but without SWAP there is no issues whatsoever and I'm not even close to utilizing all RAM. Additionally this only happens when downloading via Chrome or qBittorrent. With wget and curl there is no issues whatsover. Hmmmm... maybe GNOME has some memory leak with ZFS?

    Are you using XFCE to connect to it remotely?

  • mwmw Member

    @AXYZE said:

    @mw said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @kenjing789 said:

    @AXYZE said:
    Anybody tried KS-LE-A with ZFS RAID-5?

    I found out that its abysmally slow. 200Mbps going straight to the disk completly freezes NoMachine and SSH commands respond after like 2 seconds. I needed to limit it to 100Mbps so it is still accessible and usable when downloading.

    I think the oldass 72k hour HDD is causing this issue, but OVH didn't respond to the ticket about replacing it so far... :/
    @Pilzbaum have you noticed such bad performance when ARC overflows (so basically more than 50GB file)?

    KS-LE-A on ZFS RAID 1

    ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##

    Yet-Another-Bench-Script

    v2024-06-09

    https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script

    ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##

    Sat Nov 9 05:33:13 UTC 2024

    Basic System Information:

    Uptime : 0 days, 0 hours, 10 minutes
    Processor : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1225 V2 @ 3.20GHz
    CPU cores : 4 @ 2374.728 MHz
    AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM : 15.5 GiB
    Swap : 1.5 GiB
    Disk : 987.4 MiB
    Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel : 6.1.0-26-amd64
    VM Type : NONE
    IPv4/IPv6 : ✔ Online / ✔ Online

    IPv6 Network Information:

    ISP : OVH SAS
    ASN : AS16276 OVH SAS
    Host : OVH SAS
    Location : Roubaix, Hauts-de-France (HDF)
    Country : France

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition zp0/zd0):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 14.18 MB/s (3.5k) 195.92 MB/s (3.0k)
    Write 14.20 MB/s (3.5k) 196.95 MB/s (3.0k)
    Total 28.38 MB/s (7.0k) 392.87 MB/s (6.1k)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 359.21 MB/s (701) 345.98 MB/s (337)
    Write 378.30 MB/s (738) 369.03 MB/s (360)
    Total 737.52 MB/s (1.4k) 715.01 MB/s (697)

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):

    Provider Location (Link) Send Speed Recv Speed Ping
    Clouvider London, UK (10G) 286 Mbits/sec 922 Mbits/sec 4.46 ms
    Eranium Amsterdam, NL (100G) 286 Mbits/sec 935 Mbits/sec 5.74 ms
    Uztelecom Tashkent, UZ (10G) 205 Mbits/sec 266 Mbits/sec 108 ms
    Leaseweb Singapore, SG (10G) 77.3 Mbits/sec 421 Mbits/sec 160 ms
    Clouvider Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) 173 Mbits/sec 246 Mbits/sec 137 ms
    Leaseweb NYC, NY, US (10G) 261 Mbits/sec 662 Mbits/sec 76.0 ms
    Edgoo Sao Paulo, BR (1G) 163 Mbits/sec 335 Mbits/sec 185 ms

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):

    Provider Location (Link) Send Speed Recv Speed Ping
    Clouvider London, UK (10G) 918 Mbits/sec 920 Mbits/sec 4.51 ms
    Eranium Amsterdam, NL (100G) 918 Mbits/sec 921 Mbits/sec 5.77 ms
    Uztelecom Tashkent, UZ (10G) 786 Mbits/sec 259 Mbits/sec 108 ms
    Leaseweb Singapore, SG (10G) 656 Mbits/sec 518 Mbits/sec 160 ms
    Clouvider Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) 787 Mbits/sec 144 Mbits/sec 137 ms
    Leaseweb NYC, NY, US (10G) 868 Mbits/sec 640 Mbits/sec 76.0 ms
    Edgoo Sao Paulo, BR (1G) 767 Mbits/sec 217 Mbits/sec 185 ms

    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:

    Test | Value
    |
    Single Core | 724
    Multi Core | 2276
    Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/8731756

    I used them install Wizard with ZFS and Raid 5 but it become ZFS Raid 1 for me so you might want check the raid again

    My yabs is absolutely fine just like on what you have posted. I see CPU usage is total 99% with Chrome/qBittorrent download, but I do not see any process that uses that - everything sums up to roughly 15-20%. Something not visible eats rest and I think that is the ZFS. I need to diagnose it somehow

    Disabling swap with 'swapoff -a' fixed this issue completly. CPU went from 99% during downloading in Chrome/qBitTorrent to 25-45%. Weird, RAM usage was just 9GB / 16GB and now after disabling swap its 10GB / 16GB.

    Turn swap back on and turn swappiness to 1

    Re-enabled with swapiness set to '10'.
    After one minute SWAP is used 0.5GB/1.5GB, RAM usage went from 10GB to 9.5GB, CPU usage went to 60-70% average.
    After 3 minutes SWAP is used 1GB/1.5GB, RAM usage went to 9.2GB and CPU usage went to 70-80% and I have massive lags inside both SSH and NoMachine is basically unusable (new frame draws every couple of seconds).

    I'll try with swapiness set to '1' now.

    that's very strange memory behaviour given your memory pressure is pretty relaxed. great if turning off swap fixes it but you still dont know why it's aggressively swapping like that

  • FalzoFalzo Member
    edited November 2024

    Welcome to ZFS. By default it uses up to 50% of the available memory, aka 8 GB on this machine.
    If you run out of the remaining 8 Gigs, it will start swapping. You didn't put swap on the zfs itself, did you?

  • AXYZEAXYZE Member
    edited November 2024

    @mw said:
    that's very strange memory behaviour given your memory pressure is pretty relaxed. great if turning off swap fixes it but you still dont know why it's aggressively swapping like that

    Swapiness set to 1, then enabled SWAP.

    After one minute:

    There is ton of RAM available that is being utilized as page cache.

    It is indeed very strange, it's way too agressive. Plenty of RAM is available to use
    Swapiness '1':

    SWAP is disabled:

    Notice the CPU usage

    @Falzo said:
    Welcome to ZFS. By default it uses up to 50% of the available memory, aka 8 GB on this machine.
    If you run out of the remaining 8 Gigs, it will start swapping. You didn't put swap on the zfs itself, did you?

    The problem is that I don't run out of remaining 8 Gigs.
    There is no such issue in both curl and wget.
    There is no issue if I open more tabs in Chrome and then download by either curl or wget.
    Issue starts once I start to download anything using Chrome or qBittorrent.
    After disabling SWAP issue disappears and I have no crashes/OOM issues, which I definetly should have if SWAP is being taken after just one minute with '1' swapiness.

    Edit: I investigated it a little bit. I THINK If app is using GTK or Qt and saves something to disk then this problem starts to happen. This is why I didnt saw this issue in curl/wget/fio. So weird. I just disabled swap for now and I'll see if there will be any OOM crash in 24hours.

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