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Question for HostHatch customers - root drive smaller than expected for storage server

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  • @Lex said:
    @vitobotta curious, did you purchase one of their offer from this forum, or directly from their site? I saw HostHatch excusing poor/slow support due to service type, insisting that the support for their "non-offer" services is way better/faster.

    I'm curious to see if this is true or just bs.

    Directly from the site

  • @vitobotta said:
    Directly from the site

    How fast did they reply to the support query?

  • some hours

    Thanked by 1Lex
  • @hosthatch, can current customer who has old storage plan get free additional ssd disk as well?

  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @kzed said:
    @hosthatch, can current customer who has old storage plan get free additional ssd disk as well?

    Yes, we're moving all old VMs to the new NVMe + RAID10 HDD systems.

  • @hosthatch said:

    Yes, we're moving all old VMs to the new NVMe + RAID10 HDD systems.

    Will old customers have to do anything post migration?

  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @JohnFilch123 said:

    @hosthatch said:

    Yes, we're moving all old VMs to the new NVMe + RAID10 HDD systems.

    Will old customers have to do anything post migration?

    We offer you two options:

    1) Create a new VM, move over the data yourself. Let us know and we remove the old VM after an x period of time.
    2) Create a new VM and remove the old one at the same time.

    In both cases, we can move over the IP address if needed.

    The third option is that we move the VM for you, but this comes with certain risks as moving large disks is not reliable, and it also means you do not get an NVMe disk.

    If you haven't already gotten an email about this, you will in the next few weeks.

    Thanked by 1JohnFilch123
  • No email yet, happy to wait, will probably opt for option 2.

  • @vitobotta said:
    I am probably gonna cancel. It's too slow for me. I guess I shouldn't expect much for 5 bucks for 1 TB

    Can you try simultaneous uploads of large multi-gigabyte files to your server and see. I was uploading 3 files averaging 45Gb in size and each download dropped to 1 MiB/s, and it was both in and out.

    That is why I suspect something internal capped the speeds because they were faster at the start then the speeds dropped and steadied.

  • @k9banger said: That is why I suspect something internal capped the speeds because they were faster at the start then the speeds dropped and steadied.

    Have you opened a ticket with a provider

  • @vitobotta said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @vitobotta said:
    What is the port speed on the storage servers? I am syncing data with Resilio Sync and it's doing only 4-5 MB/sec. I have full Gigabit upload and no bottleneck on my side.

    They have 10Gbps links. The bottleneck is Resilio (chunking and hashing), not the network port. Used it for years but could never get good performance (even with SSD drives instead of HDDs like you have on storage) and when their updates and support dried up, I moved to syncthing. It had the same issue.

    I would rsync it and then add in Resilio to save time.

    Resilio has never been a bottleneck for me and has always maxed out my Gigabit connection.

    Pics or it didn't happen. I have 10Gbps at home and don't recall anywhere close to sustained gigabit transfers for local use, but it's been a couple of years now.

    Did you do any tweaking from defaults?

  • @rcy026 said:
    This is my HH storage in Stockholm. Does not look caped in any way to me, but I guess it could be different in other locations.

     Basic Network Info
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Primary Network    : IPv6
     IPv6 Access        : ✔ Online
     IPv4 Access        : ✔ Online
     ISP                : HostHatch
     ASN                : AS63473 HostHatch, LLC
     Host               : HostHatch, LLC
     Location           : Stockholm, Stockholm County-AB, Sweden
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Speedtest.net (Region: GLOBAL)
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Location         Latency     Loss    DL Speed       UP Speed       Server      
    
     ISP: HostHatch 
    
     Nearest          0.74 ms     0.0%    11742.95 Mbps  12526.91 Mbps  Tele2 Sweden - Stockholm 
    
     Kochi, IN        229.40 ms   0.0%    3295.12 Mbps   334.95 Mbps    Asianet Broadband - Cochin 
     Bangalore, IN    211.26 ms   0.0%    3617.04 Mbps   396.20 Mbps    Bharti Airtel Ltd - Bangalore 
     Chennai, IN      200.87 ms   N/A     3186.93 Mbps   381.83 Mbps    Jio - Chennai 
     Mumbai, IN       137.61 ms   0.0%    4186.16 Mbps   596.53 Mbps    i3D.net - Mumbai 
     Delhi, IN        193.04 ms   0.0%    3812.57 Mbps   432.47 Mbps    Tata Play Fiber - New Delhi 
    
     Seattle, US      161.31 ms   N/A     2614.58 Mbps   494.39 Mbps    Comcast - Seattle, WA 
     Los Angeles, US  166.44 ms   0.0%    1779.84 Mbps   479.29 Mbps    ReliableSite Hosting - Los Angeles, CA 
     Dallas, US       133.18 ms   0.0%    3277.54 Mbps   625.18 Mbps    i3D.net - Dallas, TX 
     Miami, US        135.65 ms   N/A     2078.98 Mbps   605.78 Mbps    Dish Wireless - Miami, FL 
     New York, US     97.22 ms    0.0%    4732.83 Mbps   850.70 Mbps    GSL Networks - New York, NY 
     Toronto, CA      120.75 ms   0.0%    6484.10 Mbps   676.43 Mbps    Rogers - Toronto, ON 
     Mexico City, MX  180.48 ms   N/A     3756.34 Mbps   446.80 Mbps    INFINITUM - Ciudad de México 
    
     London, UK       28.78 ms    0.0%    4490.66 Mbps   2931.14 Mbps   VeloxServ Communications - London 
     Amsterdam, NL    26.39 ms    0.0%    4314.71 Mbps   3245.25 Mbps   31173 Services AB - Amsterdam
    

    I've never seen the download and upload speed vary so much for a datacenter VPS. Home broadband, yes, hosted VPS, no.

  • @hosthatch said:

    @JohnFilch123 said:

    @hosthatch said:

    Yes, we're moving all old VMs to the new NVMe + RAID10 HDD systems.

    Will old customers have to do anything post migration?

    We offer you two options:

    1) Create a new VM, move over the data yourself. Let us know and we remove the old VM after an x period of time.
    2) Create a new VM and remove the old one at the same time.

    In both cases, we can move over the IP address if needed.

    The third option is that we move the VM for you, but this comes with certain risks as moving large disks is not reliable, and it also means you do not get an NVMe disk.

    If you haven't already gotten an email about this, you will in the next few weeks.

    4th option, buy a bigger server during BF sale and migrate to that and then respond with option two.

    In case anyone needed justification for another server.

  • @hosthatch said:

    @kzed said:
    @hosthatch, can current customer who has old storage plan get free additional ssd disk as well?

    Yes, we're moving all old VMs to the new NVMe + RAID10 HDD systems.

    Does this include the 10TB promotional plans?

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @Daniel15 said:

    @hosthatch said:

    @kzed said:
    @hosthatch, can current customer who has old storage plan get free additional ssd disk as well?

    Yes, we're moving all old VMs to the new NVMe + RAID10 HDD systems.

    Does this include the 10TB promotional plans?

    Yes. It does

  • @Daniel15 said:

    @hosthatch said:

    @kzed said:
    @hosthatch, can current customer who has old storage plan get free additional ssd disk as well?

    Yes, we're moving all old VMs to the new NVMe + RAID10 HDD systems.

    Does this include the 10TB promotional plans?

    In my case, yes, that's exactly what happened, even for the deep discount 10TB deals from a few years ago. :)

    Since May, all of my New York, Chicago, and London systems have been migrated to the new infrastructure. They provisioned the new VMs, and I migrated the data. I still have one legacy Stockholm VM.

    I'm sure it's a huge and complex project requiring the provisioning and re-purposing of lots of hardware. It would be interesting to know the overall progress. I certainly have no complaints about the performance of the new systems.

  • I don't think my 10TB storage VPS is on the new infra, even though it's on one of the servers that suffered data loss as a result of a RAID failure. I don't have an NVMe drive on it.

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  • @Daniel15 said:
    I don't think my 10TB storage VPS is on the new infra, even though it's on one of the servers that suffered data loss as a result of a RAID failure. I don't have an NVMe drive on it.

    No, if you haven't been contacted and asked to migrate, then you aren't on the new infrastructure. I'm not aware of them doing any kind of automated or live migrations. The addition of a flash boot drive makes that more or less impossible, as they'd have no way to partition your existing storage into separate OS and data partitions.

  • Daniel15Daniel15 Veteran
    edited November 2024

    @aj_potc said: if you haven't been contacted and asked to migrate, then you aren't on the new infrastructure.

    Yeah I haven't been contacted at all. I don't think HostHatch ever clarified if my VPS is still on the defective server (like if they just wiped the server and reused it) or if everyone was migrated to a different replacement server. Maybe I should create a ticket.

  • @hosthatch For all the tall claims that you've made over the past few months in different threads along with your cheerleaders; the complaints that is creeping up doesn't reflect the same level of service.

  • @Daniel15 said:
    I don't think my 10TB storage VPS is on the new infra, even though it's on one of the servers that suffered data loss as a result of a RAID failure. I don't have an NVMe drive on it.

    My 10TB storage in Los Angeles has been already moved to the new infra with NVMe drive.

  • I have a storage vm from them in Sg and Stockholm, and both have been very stable. Network was never the bottleneck, and easily hit 2G up/down for short while before I throttled it. Also the low upload speed in nws.sh is because of the countries. They are far, and the India servers cap around 500-900Mbps. The Europe connection is solid though

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