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  • @Dasabo, Ticket #783146

  • CaztielCaztiel Member
    edited November 2024

    @mcs said:

    @Dasabo said:

    @szymonp said:

    @egoror said:
    Punishing clients for not willing to use a broken service is probably a top 5 way to handle situation the worst way possible.

    If you were disappointed with the service you are extremely unlikely to buy from them again anyway 😅

    Exactly, we have decided to ban all impatient customers precisely because we are not here to play games.
    Ban obviously only for those who requested a refund after 1 day of purchase.
    We will process the refund and they will be denied future purchase of our services.

    @szymonp said:

    @egoror said:
    Punishing clients for not willing to use a broken service is probably a top 5 way to handle situation the worst way possible.

    If you were disappointed with the service you are extremely unlikely to buy from them again anyway 😅

    On the one hand, if the provider improves the work, users may want to test the service again. But of course, this will not be in a month or two. The return may already be in six months to a year, if the provider remains afloat and the prices are lower than the market, and at the same time the reviews about the provider are much better than before. On the other hand, you as a provider have every right to remove clients who do not want to wait for the problem to be solved, since they may seem unreliable in your eyes and it is easier for you to resell this service to someone else who will stay with you for a long time to guarantee a constant cash flow, even if you spend some money on refunds. In any case, I think that this is a well-thought-out and normal solution for both parties, although a little harsh on your part.

    I agree - Although it may seem harsh from OP, but It ain't aggressive answer to customers who reported packet loss. It is for impatient customers who bought a VPS for EUR 10.00 @ 2 Year (as good as 2-4 Burgers).

    No one is hosting any production services on these VMs (Atleast as of Day 1/2).

    OP has already acknowledged to be having issue. He is working on it & even ready to compensate with 5 additional days of Billing. But Burger Kings are still on a rant without much to lose.

    I would have still understood the situation if OP said "We dont see any issues from our end & there is nothing we can do about it". Then you can go on rant against OP. But that is not the case. So if you hate the service, OP or situation, just take the refund & move out. Just like you dont want to do deal with OP now, he doesnt want to deal with you (Impatient Customers) forever. I see its a fair deal.

    Thanked by 2ElChile Dasabo
  • Erick545Erick545 Barred
    edited November 2024

    @Caztiel said:

    @mcs said:

    @Dasabo said:

    @szymonp said:

    @egoror said:
    Punishing clients for not willing to use a broken service is probably a top 5 way to handle situation the worst way possible.

    If you were disappointed with the service you are extremely unlikely to buy from them again anyway 😅

    Exactly, we have decided to ban all impatient customers precisely because we are not here to play games.
    Ban obviously only for those who requested a refund after 1 day of purchase.
    We will process the refund and they will be denied future purchase of our services.

    @szymonp said:

    @egoror said:
    Punishing clients for not willing to use a broken service is probably a top 5 way to handle situation the worst way possible.

    If you were disappointed with the service you are extremely unlikely to buy from them again anyway 😅

    On the one hand, if the provider improves the work, users may want to test the service again. But of course, this will not be in a month or two. The return may already be in six months to a year, if the provider remains afloat and the prices are lower than the market, and at the same time the reviews about the provider are much better than before. On the other hand, you as a provider have every right to remove clients who do not want to wait for the problem to be solved, since they may seem unreliable in your eyes and it is easier for you to resell this service to someone else who will stay with you for a long time to guarantee a constant cash flow, even if you spend some money on refunds. In any case, I think that this is a well-thought-out and normal solution for both parties, although a little harsh on your part.

    I agree - Although it may seem harsh from OP, but It ain't aggressive answer to customers who reported packet loss. It is for impatient customers who bought a VPS for EUR 10.00 @ 2 Year (as good as 2-4 Burgers).

    No one is hosting any production services on these VMs (Atleast as of Day 1/2).

    OP has already acknowledged to be having issue. He is working on it & even ready to compensate with 5 additional days of Billing. But Burger Kings are still on a rant without much to lose.

    I would have still understood the situation if OP said "We dont see any issues from our end & there is nothing we can do about it". Then you can go on rant against OP. But that is not the case. So if you hate the service, OP or situation, just take the refund & move out. Just like you dont want to do deal with OP now, he doesnt want to deal with you (Impatient Customers) forever. I see its a fair deal.

    Hello,
    We are trying to help you and we have made demands of you that you are not fulfilling.
    Refund is not acceptable and the decision is final.

    Kind regards,

    L2 Advanced Support

    Try to move out from yesterday

  • DasaboDasabo 🚩 Patron Provider Tag Suspended

    @Erick545 said:

    @Caztiel said:

    @mcs said:

    @Dasabo said:

    @szymonp said:

    @egoror said:
    Punishing clients for not willing to use a broken service is probably a top 5 way to handle situation the worst way possible.

    If you were disappointed with the service you are extremely unlikely to buy from them again anyway 😅

    Exactly, we have decided to ban all impatient customers precisely because we are not here to play games.
    Ban obviously only for those who requested a refund after 1 day of purchase.
    We will process the refund and they will be denied future purchase of our services.

    @szymonp said:

    @egoror said:
    Punishing clients for not willing to use a broken service is probably a top 5 way to handle situation the worst way possible.

    If you were disappointed with the service you are extremely unlikely to buy from them again anyway 😅

    On the one hand, if the provider improves the work, users may want to test the service again. But of course, this will not be in a month or two. The return may already be in six months to a year, if the provider remains afloat and the prices are lower than the market, and at the same time the reviews about the provider are much better than before. On the other hand, you as a provider have every right to remove clients who do not want to wait for the problem to be solved, since they may seem unreliable in your eyes and it is easier for you to resell this service to someone else who will stay with you for a long time to guarantee a constant cash flow, even if you spend some money on refunds. In any case, I think that this is a well-thought-out and normal solution for both parties, although a little harsh on your part.

    I agree - Although it may seem harsh from OP, but It ain't aggressive answer to customers who reported packet loss. It is for impatient customers who bought a VPS for EUR 10.00 @ 2 Year (as good as 2-4 Burgers).

    No one is hosting any production services on these VMs (Atleast as of Day 1/2).

    OP has already acknowledged to be having issue. He is working on it & even ready to compensate with 5 additional days of Billing. But Burger Kings are still on a rant without much to lose.

    I would have still understood the situation if OP said "We dont see any issues from our end & there is nothing we can do about it". Then you can go on rant against OP. But that is not the case. So if you hate the service, OP or situation, just take the refund & move out. Just like you dont want to do deal with OP now, he doesnt want to deal with you (Impatient Customers) forever. I see its a fair deal.

    Hello,
    We are trying to help you and we have made demands of you that you are not fulfilling.
    Refund is not acceptable and the decision is final.

    Kind regards,

    L2 Advanced Support

    Try to move out from yesterday

    We have already discussed you, and if I am not mistaken, you have not provided what we asked for to help you.
    In any case, if we have not yet done so, we will also process your refund :)

  • DasaboDasabo 🚩 Patron Provider Tag Suspended
    edited November 2024

    Just to give you an example of the claims we receive:
    A user complained because he had not yet seen his additional year.

    I did, but nobody gives a damn about it.
    Just refund if you're not going to add 1 more year.
    thanks,

    When we explained to him that he is on the list to be processed.
    This is the kind of user we don't want.

  • I'd buy a "Gaslighting customers for your own faults as a first step on a way to success" book.

  • ArkasArkas Member, Retired Moderator

    @Dasabo said: From my point of view you can raise an abuse if you are so convinced of the wrong things you are saying.

    Please elaborate. What is the relation to namebox.ro/en/ ???

  • @Dasabo said:
    Just to give you an example of the claims we receive:
    A user complained because he had not yet seen his additional year.

    I did, but nobody gives a damn about it.
    Just refund if you're not going to add 1 more year.
    thanks,


    When we explained to him that he is on the list to be processed.
    This is the kind of user we don't want.

    Arguably, a service provider probably doesn’t want very many of the users here.

  • DasaboDasabo 🚩 Patron Provider Tag Suspended

    @Arkas said:

    @Dasabo said: From my point of view you can raise an abuse if you are so convinced of the wrong things you are saying.

    Please elaborate. What is the relation to namebox.ro/en/ ???

    No relation at all.

  • I agree - Although it may seem harsh from OP, but It ain't aggressive answer to customers who reported packet loss. It is for impatient customers who bought a VPS for EUR 10.00 @ 2 Year (as good as 2-4 Burgers).

    We are losing millions of $ due to this network issue :)

  • @Dasabo said:

    @Arkas said:

    @Dasabo said: From my point of view you can raise an abuse if you are so convinced of the wrong things you are saying.

    Please elaborate. What is the relation to namebox.ro/en/ ???

    No relation at all.

    He just RIP'ed that website (copy/paste) and put his copyright. Is this allowed? I'm asking for a friend.

  • DasaboDasabo 🚩 Patron Provider Tag Suspended

    @Andru said:

    @Dasabo said:

    @Arkas said:

    @Dasabo said: From my point of view you can raise an abuse if you are so convinced of the wrong things you are saying.

    Please elaborate. What is the relation to namebox.ro/en/ ???

    No relation at all.

    He just RIP'ed that website (copy/paste) and put his copyright. Is this allowed? I'm asking for a friend.

    Again if you continue to make these false accusations, you are free to make an abuse both to us and to them.

  • ArkasArkas Member, Retired Moderator

    @Dasabo said: Again if you continue to make these false accusations, you are free to make an abuse both to us and to them.

    That is what he is doing, and I am responding, this is why I asked you to clarify so your customers can know.

    Thanked by 1Dasabo
  • @Andru said:

    @mcs said:
    I only looked at the design, as you stated - design is not reading the text. I'll look into this issue now. And what are you hinting at in this case - that they made a whitelabel in another template and are reselling us the same service with slightly reduced resources? Or did they just copy the template? Tell me straight out. I'm not asserting anything because I didn't look in detail, I looked at the basic things from the standpoint of design and layout.

    From my point of view this dasaboshit website is just a copy/paste from namebox.ro/en/ website with © 2024 Dasabo OÜ in the footer.
    Not to mention the big lies .. eg:
    1400 + Over 1400 companies have chosen our web hosting services since 2018
    15000 + We provide quality web hosting for thousands of websites and online shops

    This made me laugh: We have strategic partnerships with cPanel, CloudLinux, JetBackup, LiteSpeed and LiteSpeed :) You're just buyng their licenses ...

    @Andru said:

    @Dasabo said:

    @Andru said:

    @mcs said:
    I only looked at the design, as you stated - design is not reading the text. I'll look into this issue now. And what are you hinting at in this case - that they made a whitelabel in another template and are reselling us the same service with slightly reduced resources? Or did they just copy the template? Tell me straight out. I'm not asserting anything because I didn't look in detail, I looked at the basic things from the standpoint of design and layout.

    From my point of view this dasaboshit website is just a copy/paste from namebox.ro/en/ website with © 2024 Dasabo OÜ in the footer.

    From my point of view you can raise an abuse if you are so convinced of the wrong things you are saying.

    Dude you're copy/paste'ing. I'm just telling that your website is full of crap and shit.

    @Dasabo can you detail your strategic partnerships with cPanel, CloudLinux, JetBackup, LiteSpeed and LiteSpeed ? What this means ? I'm curious. (This is a copy/paste with a small change.. orginal was: We have formed strategic partnerships with cPanel, RIPE, RoTLD, LiteSpeed, and CloudLinux to provide the best and most stable web hosting solutions)

    @mcs please look closer to the index page ... is just a RIP from namebox.. with a little changes (craps, lies, etc..)

    I looked and read. Yes, in some ways you are right, and this cannot be denied. Some things are written from a marketing point of view to attract customers, but of course in many ways they do not correspond to reality, having looked in detail at the information about the company I did not see either such a number of customers or other information about partnerships. In these moments the values ​​are exaggerated and are clearly made in order to attract the attention of users. The site seems raw and was made very quickly, most likely by the provider itself without attracting additional sources. In addition, at the bottom of the footer there are many menu pages that give a 404 error and do not work at all, this suggests that the provider decided to further refine the site possible later, initially filling in the main pages. The design is similar to the site that you indicated and partial changes are visible in many moments - here I also agree at the moment. Regarding strategic partnerships with companies - even large suppliers usually do not write the same thing, because they have a broader idea. That is, it cannot be just a matter of buying licenses for themselves and reselling these same licenses to the end user. Or, perhaps, using some tools for resellers. This domain has existed for 4 years, and the company has been written for 5 years. Now I will look up information about this company in Estonia myself to finally understand what kind of provider it is in this case. But it is obvious that some marketing statements are exaggerated, and you should not start promoting your business with this from the very beginning. Regarding the text, well, the wording may be similar for many. But if the site was made quickly - and this is obvious at the moment, some information could have been borrowed from other sources. Of course, copy-paste is not good in any case, and there is responsibility for this, but so far we cannot say 100% in this specific case, and this is not my business in principle. If someone thinks that their copyright has been violated - they themselves will contact the provider and make claims. Finding who uses similar texts on their site, templates or similar solutions at the moment does not present any problems.

  • @Andru said:
    How about copying design @Dasabo ?
    It's just my impresion that your website in some parts looks like https://www.namebox.ro/en/ even the logo...
    Hmm... nah nah nah...

    I think it's just a template or something

  • @szymonp said:

    @Andru said:
    How about copying design @Dasabo ?
    It's just my impresion that your website in some parts looks like https://www.namebox.ro/en/ even the logo...
    Hmm... nah nah nah...

    I think it's just a template or something

    The wordpress theme is hostim and he modified to look like namebox. I know what I'm saying....

  • https://bgpview.io/asn/214279
    https://www.inforegister.ee/en/16941443-Company-name/
    https://eecompanies.lursoft.lv/en/company/dasabo-ou/16941443
    https://ariregister.rik.ee/est/company/16941443/DASABO-OÜ

    According to many sources at the moment, we do not see reliable confirmed information that this company can have such a number of clients, and even more so that it has been on the market for 5 years as it is declared. When it is so easy to find information and check the data, there is no need for such bold statements on the site. Also, according to the networks, we do not see that at least 500 clients will be collected for this company, even if we use all the IP addresses currently available. From public information it is clear that the company has existed under this name for no more than 8 months. If the provider has rebranded or has another legal entity, he can report this and prove his case. So far, the notes of one of the forum participants are correct. Also, if there are hints at that moment, who and from whom could take information for their site - you can always look at which site appeared earlier and what information was on it, in order to understand which of them is the original source of the texts, if they are similar.

  • AndruAndru Member
    edited November 2024

    @Dasabo said:

    @Andru said:

    @Dasabo said:

    @Arkas said:

    @Dasabo said: From my point of view you can raise an abuse if you are so convinced of the wrong things you are saying.

    Please elaborate. What is the relation to namebox.ro/en/ ???

    No relation at all.

    He just RIP'ed that website (copy/paste) and put his copyright. Is this allowed? I'm asking for a friend.

    Again if you continue to make these false accusations, you are free to make an abuse both to us and to them.

    You got caught with copy/paste from that website. Is hard to admit this?
    Damn, LET is going down and down....

  • DasaboDasabo 🚩 Patron Provider Tag Suspended

    @mcs said:
    https://bgpview.io/asn/214279
    https://www.inforegister.ee/en/16941443-Company-name/
    https://eecompanies.lursoft.lv/en/company/dasabo-ou/16941443
    https://ariregister.rik.ee/est/company/16941443/DASABO-OÜ

    According to many sources at the moment, we do not see reliable confirmed information that this company can have such a number of clients, and even more so that it has been on the market for 5 years as it is declared. When it is so easy to find information and check the data, there is no need for such bold statements on the site. Also, according to the networks, we do not see that at least 500 clients will be collected for this company, even if we use all the IP addresses currently available. From public information it is clear that the company has existed under this name for no more than 8 months. If the provider has rebranded or has another legal entity, he can report this and prove his case. So far, the notes of one of the forum participants are correct. Also, if there are hints at that moment, who and from whom could take information for their site - you can always look at which site appeared earlier and what information was on it, in order to understand which of them is the original source of the texts, if they are similar.

    Check for Dasabo Hosting Ltd, Dasabo Group Fzco and Dasaweb Ltd :)

  • @Dasabo said:

    @mcs said:
    https://bgpview.io/asn/214279
    https://www.inforegister.ee/en/16941443-Company-name/
    https://eecompanies.lursoft.lv/en/company/dasabo-ou/16941443
    https://ariregister.rik.ee/est/company/16941443/DASABO-OÜ

    According to many sources at the moment, we do not see reliable confirmed information that this company can have such a number of clients, and even more so that it has been on the market for 5 years as it is declared. When it is so easy to find information and check the data, there is no need for such bold statements on the site. Also, according to the networks, we do not see that at least 500 clients will be collected for this company, even if we use all the IP addresses currently available. From public information it is clear that the company has existed under this name for no more than 8 months. If the provider has rebranded or has another legal entity, he can report this and prove his case. So far, the notes of one of the forum participants are correct. Also, if there are hints at that moment, who and from whom could take information for their site - you can always look at which site appeared earlier and what information was on it, in order to understand which of them is the original source of the texts, if they are similar.

    Check for Dasabo Hosting Ltd, Dasabo Group Fzco and Dasaweb Ltd :)

    yes, well, I'll definitely take a look. I'm especially good at and know how to check a company in the UAE and England. Well, then I'll give an answer on what and how.

  • @mcs said:
    According to many sources at the moment, we do not see reliable confirmed information that this company can have such a number of clients, and even more so that it has been on the market for 5 years as it is declared. When it is so easy to find information and check the data, there is no need for such bold statements on the site. Also, according to the networks, we do not see that at least 500 clients will be collected for this company, even if we use all the IP addresses currently available. From public information it is clear that the company has existed under this name for no more than 8 months. If the provider has rebranded or has another legal entity, he can report this and prove his case. So far, the notes of one of the forum participants are correct. Also, if there are hints at that moment, who and from whom could take information for their site - you can always look at which site appeared earlier and what information was on it, in order to understand which of them is the original source of the texts, if they are similar.

    And they say we are several years away from AGI

  • mcsmcs Member
    edited November 2024

    @egoror said:

    @mcs said:
    According to many sources at the moment, we do not see reliable confirmed information that this company can have such a number of clients, and even more so that it has been on the market for 5 years as it is declared. When it is so easy to find information and check the data, there is no need for such bold statements on the site. Also, according to the networks, we do not see that at least 500 clients will be collected for this company, even if we use all the IP addresses currently available. From public information it is clear that the company has existed under this name for no more than 8 months. If the provider has rebranded or has another legal entity, he can report this and prove his case. So far, the notes of one of the forum participants are correct. Also, if there are hints at that moment, who and from whom could take information for their site - you can always look at which site appeared earlier and what information was on it, in order to understand which of them is the original source of the texts, if they are similar.

    And they say we are several years away from AGI

    AI is already in many places, although it does not work perfectly. And there is talk about replacing completely human capabilities in certain industries with artificial intelligence at the same level in a few years. This is a bit different. And if we take the technical case, then at the moment intelligence can even generate text - but it will not converge one to one on many sites. And there are also tools that change text - just like a technical copywriter does. Although I did not quite understand why artificial intelligence is mentioned in your statement

  • DasaboDasabo 🚩 Patron Provider Tag Suspended

    We have processed all refunds that were pending, should there be any more, please do not hesitate to contact us.

  • I sent a refund request in a ticket. But I didn't even get a response from you about it. And I can't understand what is called waiting for a refund without notification that your request is being processed. That is, all users are notified about refunds now by your offer here and separately if you have an open ticket in your system, we don't have to worry and in 1-2 days we will receive our funds on PayPal. Did I understand you correctly?

  • DasaboDasabo 🚩 Patron Provider Tag Suspended

    The network problems now seem to have been resolved, we apologise immensely for the inconvenience.

    We ask you to please check back and contact us if there are any problems.

    Thank you for your understanding.

  • Got refund, thanks.

  • DasaboDasabo 🚩 Patron Provider Tag Suspended

    @mcs said:
    I sent a refund request in a ticket. But I didn't even get a response from you about it. And I can't understand what is called waiting for a refund without notification that your request is being processed. That is, all users are notified about refunds now by your offer here and separately if you have an open ticket in your system, we don't have to worry and in 1-2 days we will receive our funds on PayPal. Did I understand you correctly?

    Can you please share your invoice number ?

  • @Dasabo said:
    We have processed all refunds that were pending, should there be any more, please do not hesitate to contact us.

    Ok, well I saw that my account is closed and the ticket is closed - we will wait for the refund. Thank you for the refund and I hope it comes soon

  • DasaboDasabo 🚩 Patron Provider Tag Suspended

    @mcs said:

    @Dasabo said:
    We have processed all refunds that were pending, should there be any more, please do not hesitate to contact us.

    Ok, well I saw that my account is closed and the ticket is closed - we will wait for the refund. Thank you for the refund and I hope it comes soon

    If it's closed refund are already made, but please share your invoice or order number so i can check.

  • @Dasabo said:

    The network problems now seem to have been resolved, we apologise immensely for the inconvenience.

    We ask you to please check back and contact us if there are any problems.

    Thank you for your understanding.

    Now we can say that there is a prompt decision and partial Fomo will be for those who perhaps refused a cheap service in vain. But I made the final decision and am also grateful for the opportunity to test the service and gain another experience.

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