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serverhunter still good for offers, no?

Due to researches for a good VPS deal, i checked serverhunter lastly and got some unknown (for me) providers i never seen before with (good) prices. But what means good, if no one knows them.
Well, you cant be sure anymore on this site, if they are reliable or not.

dashserv.io
freakhosting.com
dyjix.eu
bigboxhost.com
drserver.net

Others are well known by the community or not worth to list here.

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  • https://vps.today / https://poiskvps.ru are my personal go to.

    Thanked by 1jsg
  • If you belive in that providers ok, but i cant speak russki.

    Thanked by 1fendix
  • I was wondering the same, a tempting offer from bulkvm 2tb storage at $5 per month but i can't see any reviews anywhere

  • davidedavide Member
    edited October 2024

    If you want to leave a feedback for anything to improve I made this aggregator for VPSs / VDSs by LET providers that currently indexes 60,000 services and is updated every day around noon. As they are all LET patrons you can find reviews and presentation pages on the forum for all of them. It does not do dedicated servers, I don't plan on working on that. On the other hand ServerHunter has become specialized on dedicated servers but has neglected the accuracy of its VPS index.

    Thanked by 1ascicode
  • I've used dyjix before and they are ok

  • ServerHunterServerHunter Member, Host Rep
    edited October 2024

    How do these sites address the issue OP raised? How do you know which provider listed is reliable and trustworthy?

    @davide said: If you want to leave a feedback for anything to improve I made this aggregator for VPSs / VDSs by LET providers

    How does your aggregator address the issue OP raised? How do you know which provider listed is reliable and trustworthy?

    @davide said: On the other hand ServerHunter has become specialized on dedicated servers but has neglected the accuracy of its VPS index.

    Could you provide any feedback on the accuracy issue? :) Because we haven't changed our approach and have always focused on virtual, hybrid, and dedicated servers equally. As always, any visitor can report mistakes with the "Report a mistake" link, and any provider can sign up and list all of their products entirely for free.

    @ascicode said: But what means good, if no one knows them.

    Well, you cant be sure anymore on this site, if they are reliable or not.

    Assessing whether providers are reliable or not has always been a major challenge for us, but it's an issue in general with any community or aggregator. There have been many well-known and highly-rated hosts that unfortunately vanished without any notice. I'm not aware of any platform (including LET/LEB) that has found a solution for this.

    Right now, the due diligence we do for every provider is making sure they are a legally registered business entity with a valid phone number and address. In this case, if an issue does come up, you can at least pursue any legal means to hold the people in charge responsible.

    If you have any other suggestions or features we could add to vet providers more easily, let us know! :)

  • I am from BigBoxHost, just if you have question about reliability then I would like to inform you that we are in business since 2010. We are running stable business and services without any downtime. If you have any questions feel free to reach out to our support team.

  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @saurabhnsonar said: If you have any questions feel free to reach out to our support team.

    I have a question for your support team.
    What the fuck does anything you just said have to do with what OP posted?

    Thanked by 1anubhavhirani
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @beanman109 said:

    @saurabhnsonar said: If you have any questions feel free to reach out to our support team.

    I have a question for your support team.
    What the fuck does anything you just said have to do with what OP posted?

    See the list in OP

    Thanked by 1Arkas
  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @emgh said:

    @beanman109 said:

    @saurabhnsonar said: If you have any questions feel free to reach out to our support team.

    I have a question for your support team.
    What the fuck does anything you just said have to do with what OP posted?

    See the list in OP

    I have been proven wrong - saw a random link to a random VPS hosting company and went tunnel vision

    Thanked by 2emgh gbzret4d
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @beanman109 said:

    @emgh said:

    @beanman109 said:

    @saurabhnsonar said: If you have any questions feel free to reach out to our support team.

    I have a question for your support team.
    What the fuck does anything you just said have to do with what OP posted?

    See the list in OP

    I have been proven wrong - saw a random link to a random VPS hosting company and went tunnel vision

    I reacted the same way at first :D

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited October 2024

    @davide said:
    If you want to leave a feedback for anything to improve I made this aggregator for VPSs / VDSs by LET providers that currently indexes 60,000 services and is updated every day around noon. As they are all LET patrons you can find reviews and presentation pages on the forum for all of them. It does not do dedicated servers, I don't plan on working on that. On the other hand ServerHunter has become specialized on dedicated servers but has neglected the accuracy of its VPS index.

    Looked at it. Too many default values far off what (I guess) most people look for, e.g. disk size, network (both speed and traffic).
    Also: What criteria and data are behind the "reliable" clickbox?
    And a list of all providers whose products your search includes would be nice (but maybe I just didn't see it).

  • zGatozGato Member
    edited October 2024

    @ServerHunter said:

    How do these sites address the issue OP raised? How do you know which provider listed is reliable and trustworthy?

    I've been personally using most of the providers listed there, at least from the first 1-5 pages, and apart from 1 or 2, they've all been fine :)
    Some of those I'm close to renewing for my 3rd year.

    I remind you that your own offer aggregator has at least 1 host that scammed me.

    You barely monitor your page, most coupons don't work (if not all), most providers listed are just dead url, or they set fake prices.

    Thanked by 2loay quicksilver03
  • ServerHunterServerHunter Member, Host Rep
    edited October 2024

    Sorry for the late reply, LET never notified me of these posts.

    @zGato said: I've been personally using most of the providers listed there, at least from the first 1-5 pages, and apart from 1 or 2, they've all been fine

    That's the thing with personal experiences, everyone has a different one. Just because they've been fine for you doesn't mean they will be fine for everyone, and the fact you already mentioned "apart from 1 or 2" means your approach is not flawless either, especially considering your smaller scale.

    We've implemented reviews a long time ago, and you can use our filters for company age + review score to filter it to "Reliable" without just going off the experience of a single person. :)

    @zGato said: I remind you that your own offer aggregator has at least 1 host that scammed me.

    Did you contact us about this? We've mediated with providers and refunded customers out of our pockets multiple times, even for major hosts like OVH, and we place big red warnings on providers that are not being fair or honest.

    @zGato said: You barely monitor your page, most coupons don't work (if not all), most providers listed are just dead url, or they set fake prices.

    Did you report any of this through the website? Because mistakes are automatically submitted to the providers and their provider is delisted if they do not correct the mistake. Dead URLs were handled automatically in the past, but there were some false positives, so we're doing those manually for now. Again, reporting this as a mistake should take care of it within 1-2 weeks.

    All of that being said, I agree that there are many things we could improve. :) We're working on a Trust Score system that will use verification steps and independent data sources (together with the existing reviews) to make it easier to see how trustworthy a provider is. Data accuracy for the offers is already high, but since it's pretty hard to write a spider for coupons, I'll add a voting system so people can report whether the coupon worked or not.

    If anyone has any other suggestions, we're always open to hearing them.

    Thanked by 2tentor jsg
  • zGatozGato Member
    edited October 2024

    @ServerHunter said:

    @zGato said: I've been personally using most of the providers listed there, at least from the first 1-5 pages, and apart from 1 or 2, they've all been fine

    That's the thing with personal experiences, everyone has a different one. Just because they've been fine for you doesn't mean they will be fine for everyone, and the fact you already mentioned "apart from 1 or 2" means your approach is not flawless either, especially considering your smaller scale.

    I mean, those 1 or 2 were clear exit scams, however I'm currently using like 20-30 of the providers listed there.
    I have over 300 servers, I know the shit I talk about. The amount of different providers I use is just insane.

    @zGato said: I remind you that your own offer aggregator has at least 1 host that scammed me.

    Did you contact us about this? We've mediated with providers and refunded customers out of our pockets multiple times, even for major hosts like OVH, and we place big red warnings on providers that are not being fair or honest.

    You take like months to approve a single review, I don't really care. That specific provider doesn't even have more than 1-star reviews. And those reviews are all about scamming. I'd rather prefer not helping on your own job, so people can really see how you don't really care about your page.

    MrVM hasn't had any of those locations in stock for over a year, and you're still advertising them :D

    poiskvps.ru takes less than 24h in answering, and they actually notify about your "feedback" status, if they removed the product, modified it, ...

    Their page is 100% in Russian. I send corrections in English, and they actually answer in English and not with a random generated message.

    @zGato said: You barely monitor your page, most coupons don't work (if not all), most providers listed are just dead url, or they set fake prices.

    Did you report any of this through the website? Because mistakes are automatically submitted to the providers and their provider is delisted if they do not correct the mistake. Dead URLs were handled automatically in the past, but there were some false positives, so we're doing those manually for now. Again, reporting this as a mistake should take care of it within 1-2 weeks.

    Not really, but that does not happen at poiskvps.ru, or barely does, because they monitor their shit and manually approve stuff. Most if not all of their coupons are also valid.

    Thanked by 1tentor
  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @zGato said: Not really, but that does not happen at poiskvps.ru, or barely does, because they monitor their shit and manually approve stuff. Most if not all of their coupons are also valid.

    Isn't serverhunter on moderation as well? The only issue I can see is lack of time spent on moderation

    @zGato said: You take like months to approve a single review

    I didn't knew about that

  • zGatozGato Member
    edited October 2024

    @tentor said:

    @zGato said: Not really, but that does not happen at poiskvps.ru, or barely does, because they monitor their shit and manually approve stuff. Most if not all of their coupons are also valid.

    Isn't serverhunter on moderation as well? The only issue I can see is lack of time spent on moderation

    See the MrVM example, MrVM hasn't had any of those locations in stock for over a year, and he's still advertising them :D

    They don't moderate shit

    @zGato said: You take like months to approve a single review

    I didn't knew about that

    Lemme look for some screenshots, I'll edit the post.
    not possible, they add the reviews with the date they were submitted.

    I do have some kind of example:
    Review submitted on 03/07/2024

    27/07/2024 still not there

    It got approved on the 29th.

    I have some other examples too, that either took the same time or longer, but since they don't have any way to check (cause they tell you they will email you when the review is there but they don't) I can't show any proof.

    Thanked by 1tentor
  • I bought a $2 lifetime VPN from Djyix a few years ago that stopped working a year later.

    Thanked by 1zGato
  • like, lmao

    0.1 GHz

  • ArkasArkas Member, Retired Moderator

    @beanman109 said: I have been proven wrong

    Indeed you have...

    Thanked by 1beanman109
  • AdvinAdvin Member, Host Rep

    e> @zGato said:

    like, lmao

    0.1 GHz

    I assume that was manually added by a provider, but anyway it doesn't show by default because it is out of stock

  • @Advin said:
    e> @zGato said:

    like, lmao

    0.1 GHz

    I assume that was manually added by a provider, but anyway it doesn't show by default because it is out of stock

    The providers just haven't bothered on adding some fake url to appear as stock, but again, it shows how they don't even moderate their stuff. That has been there for months.

  • itsdeadjimitsdeadjim Member
    edited October 2024

    @elofty said: I was wondering the same, a tempting offer from bulkvm 2tb storage at $5 per month but i can't see any reviews anywhere

    Found your post by searching for the same thing. Finally got one, on the plus side: prompt ticket replies and %cpu_steal=0 during benchmarks. Negative: This is far too young company to use it for anything production, no ipv6, hdd speed=is you get what you pay

    This is for the 5TB plan (custom disk partitioning):

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2024-06-09                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Sat Oct 19 11:19:11 PM EEST 2024
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 13 minutes
    Processor  : Intel Core Processor (Broadwell, IBRS)
    CPU cores  : 2 @ 2194.916 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 1.9 GiB
    Swap       : 487.0 MiB
    Disk       : 9.1 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-26-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline
    
    IPv4 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : LINVEO, LLC
    ASN        : AS62564 LINVEO, LLC
    Host       : linveo
    Location   : Phoenix, Arizona (AZ)
    Country    : United States
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 159.88 MB/s  (39.9k) | 246.97 MB/s   (3.8k)
    Write      | 160.31 MB/s  (40.0k) | 248.27 MB/s   (3.8k)
    Total      | 320.20 MB/s  (80.0k) | 495.25 MB/s   (7.7k)
               |                      |                     
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 247.83 MB/s    (484) | 248.35 MB/s    (242)
    Write      | 261.00 MB/s    (509) | 264.89 MB/s    (258)
    Total      | 508.83 MB/s    (993) | 513.25 MB/s    (500)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | busy            | 380 Mbits/sec   | 130 ms         
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 984 Mbits/sec   | 676 Mbits/sec   | 136 ms         
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | busy            | busy            | 222 ms         
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | busy            | busy            | 202 ms         
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 1.04 Gbits/sec  | 938 Mbits/sec   | 55.8 ms        
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 1.03 Gbits/sec  | 921 Mbits/sec   | 56.0 ms        
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 29.0 Mbits/sec  | 91.5 Mbits/sec  | 160 ms         
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value                         
                    |                               
    Single Core     | 1066                          
    Multi Core      | 1886                          
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/8390366
    
    YABS completed in 13 min 11 sec
    
    

    and for the HDD drive (zfs formatted/zstd-fast):

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition tank):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 632.00 KB/s    (158) | 10.40 MB/s     (162)
    Write      | 663.00 KB/s    (165) | 10.92 MB/s     (170)
    Total      | 1.29 MB/s      (323) | 21.33 MB/s     (332)
               |                      |                     
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 20.93 MB/s      (40) | 22.66 MB/s      (22)
    Write      | 22.52 MB/s      (43) | 25.20 MB/s      (24)
    Total      | 43.45 MB/s      (83) | 47.87 MB/s      (46)
    
  • ServerHunterServerHunter Member, Host Rep
    edited October 2024

    @zGato said: That specific provider doesn't even have more than 1-star reviews. And those reviews are all about scamming. I'd rather prefer not helping on your own job, so people can really see how you don't really care about your page.

    I thought just the low review score would be enough to warn people, but I just added a more obvious warning on top of it.

    @zGato said: MrVM hasn't had any of those locations in stock for over a year, and you're still advertising them

    Thanks for letting me know, I've just removed them. :)

    @Advin said: I assume that was manually added by a provider, but anyway it doesn't show by default because it is out of stock

    @zGato said: The providers just haven't bothered on adding some fake url to appear as stock, but again, it shows how they don't even moderate their stuff. That has been there for months.

    Yea, they added it manually, and when I last checked, it was an actual offer on their website too, which is why I didn't remove it at the time. They received multiple emails about people reporting it as a mistake and they never did anything. I've just manually removed them.

    Honestly, and this is clearly my mistake, I always assumed providers value accuracy and would not try to pull tricks like this, and would care if they submit inaccurate details or their offers are inaccurate. Unfortunately, it's becoming clear now I was wrong. :(

    I think the amount of companies and offers I'm dealing with at this point has just become overwhelming, which is why this started happening, and which is why it's hard to make impactful changes. The goal has always been to include every provider and every offer on a fair and unbiased platform, but it seems like this allowed some sketchy providers to slip through.

    Thanks for this wake up call, I'll be implementing a more thorough feedback loop, including email notifications about reviews and mistakes, and adding deadlines for providers to respond to them before the platform automatically delists them.

    I'll ping you in the near future when this has been done. Thank you again. :)

  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @ServerHunter said: I think the amount of companies and offers I'm dealing with at this point has just become overwhelming

    It seems like you have to do a lot of manual reviews and checks for offers on your site, maybe time to introduce some extra paid help? Just a suggestion - I have no idea what your cash flow is like and if it allows for something like that.

  • @ascicode said:
    got some unknown (for me) providers i never seen before with (good) prices. But what means good, if no one knows them.
    Well, you cant be sure anymore on this site, if they are reliable or not.
    ...
    drserver.net

    DrServer - @drserver is an old and well-known provider.

    They've been around for more than 10 years, see e.g. this thread: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/18789/drserver-review

    Should be safe to order from.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @ServerHunter said:
    Honestly, and this is clearly my mistake, I always assumed providers value accuracy and would not try to pull tricks like this

    (emphasis mine)

    I like your humour!

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