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Don't be a clown, you're just a simple criminal. I find it regrettable that now you want to blame the client because the cryptocurrency provider did not retain your money. Your 90% of clients indicated that the FBI was laughing at them and now a client trusts you for 22k. You accept and after receiving it you want to do several things and along the way you blame him?
For example, I go to Bank of America and they give me a loan of 22k and on the way to pay Supermicro they come and rob me. It's their fault for giving me cash and not giving it to me in cryptocurrencies or by bank transfer. Don't have the nerve to blame a client knowing that the one who is in breach is you. Please, how long have they banned several users for telling you things to your face and you always act as if you were the child of the house. For God's sake, stop it!!!
I reread another thread of 53 pages and claim that I'm familiar with your case, although I may have missed some nuances. Secondly, don't tell me what to do and don't pretend to be innocent and let ask you usual questions on this forum and ask you to resolve the issue with the injured user. It was possible to state all the evidence and the reality of the situation in 6 points, and not like you are doing - a week of negotiations, 53 pages of another thread and nothing has been resolved and no clear and distinct evidence has been provided that you are right here. I don't want to get personal and simply expressed some specific points on how the problem could have been resolved. I will look again at the other thread where, according to your statements, the injured user could not provide a name to receive a regular bank payment.
The money withdrawed from his CoinBase account got blocked by the bank. And the bank wants to return the money to the client? lol? Banks usually just return the money to the bank where it was transferred from and that's the bank used by coinbase for the withdrawal.
Yes, I didn't even think about it, everything you say is correct. As he claims, it would be if the money came from the cryptocurrency payment gateway account for the specified service on behalf of a specific client. Then the bank could ask for the client's name when returning it to make sure that the return goes to the right person. This did not happen in this case. So yes, I agree with you, excuses are constantly being made up here to show themselves innocent of anything.
Or, the bank does want the identity to whom had that income. :-)
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4015015/#Comment_4015015
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4015030/#Comment_4015030
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4015918/#Comment_4015918
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4017738/#Comment_4017738
if the money was credited to his account, he must prove the origin of the money and where it came from. This is his income. And here he could have acted differently - show what kind of services the account was provided for and the client paid by transferring through the cryptocurrency exchange. Show the transfer operation of the cryptocurrency transfer and its amount, then how he entered it into the exchange and made a request to withdraw this amount. In this case, the bank will not ask for additional origin of the cryptocurrency and confirmation of information that it was acquired legally, if the funds were acquired and withdrawn from the Coinbase wallet. It can only ask for the source of funds for acquiring the cryptocurrency, perhaps, but not always. In this option, there are also many unknowns and it is not clear how he could not explain either one or the other.
I didn't want to waste time on this, but the situation is interesting from a practical point of view and I missed some points in the last thread, now we'll study it again to understand this issue even more thoroughly.
Don't know about romania but in india
The bank has two options
1) To seize the money on behalf of law enforcement
2) To simply reverse the transaction from where it came it a very simple and automated process
I,ve never heard a bank asking the source bank account to send the payment.
@Not_Oles while i dont doubt that the guy you banned was personally attacking host_c but your actions proved that stealing 20k$ is alright in your eyes and attacking a host is a crime which deserves a BAN
Then i would say SHAME on you for supporting criminal activities on this forum.
I don,t care of you ban me for saying this i don,t want to stay in someplace where such respectable moderators support scammers.
Proof?
@aneesh120 why are all of your posts about calin is gossd your dad
Lets assume calins bank sezied 20k$ .
Its calins responsibility to refund the payment he is spending money on upgrades 1500 euro on his 100g upgrade 1000 euro on some new router etc.
It means he has money and not a poor kid.
He could easily have apologized to the client offered to pay him back 2k euro a month and his respect on this forum would have been 100 times more i would personally have endorsed calin and praised him that he handled the situation as any reputable host would have.
Pure - and wild - speculations.
Yes, that's true (AFAIK - maybe the admins have evidence).
But there's a significant point you seem to ignore, two in fact:
Well they (a quite shady and questionable player themselves) publicly stated that they "just absorbed" the loss (if it turns out to be one).
Wrong again. I, for instance, was a client of @Calin and I'm certainly not running any kind of illegal stuff. Not even when benchmarking because I specifically designed my benchmark to not disturb neighbours on the node.
But yes, some of his clients, and probably more than a few, highly likely are shady or do shady things. And yes again, he seems to pretty much expressly target and invite that clientele.
I doubt however that he, as you seem to suggest, explicitly does that with the intention to scam. I rather suspect that it's a kind of desperate (and/or careless/ignorant?) attempt to "gain weight" ~ lots of sales as a provider.
After all a newcomer needs to offer something that differentiates him from others, especially when starting out of a cellar or shed. And that "something" should be something that most of the others, many of whom are experienced players and already have a weight way above his, can not or do not not want to offer, like e.g. "DMCA ignored" - which btw in basically all of Europe is ridiculous nonsense anyway as most of the european countries are vassal states of the USA to some degree.
Whatever, I think we all agree that the way Calin planned and acts is not exactly the smartest.
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Congrats for accusing and condemning someone whose name you even don't seem to know.
Btw, meanwhile I did cancel my VPS from @Calin. Not because I consider him a scammer - he in fact has never taken away 1 unjustified cent or 1 unjustified minute from my account or service - but because of the reasons I laid out earlier.
Should I at some later point in time feel that he has matured (as a provider) and one can be confident that he acts professionally I'd gladly become a customer again. Until then I wish him well and that he reaches that point.
Proof he is spending his money?
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4031534/#Comment_4031534
He is a provider. Won't be surprised if he is buddies with gossd.
accusation is when I publicly called him, got personal and said specifically that he is a thief and a fraud in full. I said so far that he appropriated the money and deceived - and this is my opinion based on all the information studied here. And I am not going to change him until this situation is resolved. And it does not matter to me that, dear members of the community, you think differently, and decide to point out that I am unreasonably accusing him of something. If he shows that I am wrong and closes this issue - I will be the first to apologize to him here. I will close this discussion on this. But I will study the question from another thread, since I cannot understand how it was not possible to resolve more than a month before, and this is what interests me most, how and in what way the issue of returning the money can be resolved.
By the way, I already offered a tip, i’ll offer one more - ANAF will be glad to hear about that income.
Gossd also gladly let it go
I know - but most don’t.
Possible not close this thread now
There should be a place to discuss the entire ihostshart bongssd situation since the last thread got canned
They choose not to see that side. That's why gossd pulled out fast
@malignify here is your proof he is spending money he put 1500 euro from his own pocket
also
You can tell the source of funds just by that screenshot? Wow you're good! Lmao
Bruh. That is in RON and is worth less than 200 euro.
Feel free to have any opinion you like, no problem. Even feel free to make your opinion publicly known, after all we live in (at least formally) free countries.
But why the need to again and again and again tell your very one-sided and biased opinion?
In other words: I have yet to see someone - not unknowingly or unwillingly - harming others, or at least carelessly risking to harm others, by actively taking part in a witch hunt to not call his actions "just telling my opinion".
Btw one of the major reasons, if not the reason, we have courts is to wipe aside and ignore all the "opinion" crap and to rather examine provable facts and solid evidence.
Your opinion is good enough to explain cancelling your service - btw. did you ever even have a service from @Calin? - but it's definitely not sufficient to carelessly creating harm and damage to others.
The very fact that so many here utter their opinion without caring a flying fuck about facts and proof actually tells something about them, way more than about Calin.
201 today
@malignify as i said lets agree the 20k$ is held with the bank he has funds he can choose to refund the client slowly in another thread he said it will take " a lot of time" to solve the issue.
Small refund can pour in while he settles the issue with his bank
@zmeu its just 200 euro but its just for the 100g module it needs a 100g router too which is not cheap.
People said earlier that he receive packets - if it was 100G it was a little bit hard to drop that network.
Ok. but back to the story where you said he stole money. Where is the proof? Do you have hard evidence to back your accusation?
There’s no proof yet - since nobody goes to that income.