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Calin iHostART.Com took our $22.5K and scamming us!
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But at the same time Calin did let GoSSD know that he would have to provide bank documents at some point, and given him the option to opt out in the middle of it at some point, yet they went through with the deal, am I remembering this correctly?
Thanks again for signalling your desperation, because that's what an ad hominem usually is, a symptom of being desperate but not having proper arguments
I indeed am a client of @Calin, to be precise, a client who hasn't been scammed. Not a perfectly happy client, not one who'd recommend Calin, but also not one whose experience with Calin's services is bad in any way (beyond minor annoyances which are OK, even to be expected for the very low price).
And no, besides not wishing for any provider's deadpooling or going out of business I do not care about him being successful or failing.
Frankly, no, I don't find it entertaining at all but actually disgusting. My intention here mainly is to stand against willy-nilly accusations, judging based on nothing but hearsay and at best a few indications, and marauding - or in other words, I'm still hoping that LET isn't pulled down into an abyss by marauders who just seek "fun" and entertainment and don't care a flying fuck about the damage to the community they create.
TL;DR I do see indications that both parties aren't 100% clean and innocent, but I do not see a solid basis to judge and/or damage for or against either party.
You forgot two points, at least one a provable fact:
At some point (relatively early) A publishes a grandiose statement ("absorbing") - and since then no single word from them ... but one day before a new user registers an account here and pretty much acts as if he was gossd's de facto spokes person.
And the fact that someone (me) looks a bit closer at gossd and discovers that they don't look exactly squeaky clean either. For example @Calin haters repeat over and over again that, even if he wanted to, he could not even refund gossd out of his (company's) pocket. Yet they do not seem at all interested to look at the question whether gossd, a relatively new company, actually can absorb a loss of 20 k$ ...
As I said (repeatedly): I don't see any squeaky clean innocent party in this so far.
Btw. would any of the @Calin haters apologize if it turns out that he did not try to scam gossd? I guess we shouldn't hold our breath, they'll simply find another victim or another accusation.
every transaction up the chain?
a client of ours moved $17Mn last week from self custody to their bank, and our reporting obligations were scoped to previous-block, not genesis
Can you share the link ?
OP knew exactly who they were dealing with, and according to the OP, they have been warned by 'many' not to proceed, but they did anyway
No, he did not. You made that up. On the contrary, he explicitely said that KYC isn't needed and he guaranteed that if there are any problems, he will refund the money.
Also, there was no problem in the transaction between GoSSD and Calin. The issue arose when Calin converted crypto to cash - in his transactions. GoSSD has nothing to do with that.
Calin is the one who asked for the source of the money, he just placed the blame on GoSSD.
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4015015/#Comment_4015015
Yes, it's the one I've sent you in PM :-)
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/191097/calin-ihostart-com-took-4500-and-trying-to-scam-let-opinion/p1
Calin's role in that story already casted a pretty bad light of him. He also refused to share any proof back then. It just was a different outcome because @crunchbits came in and effectively bought the debt - so instead of some random Indian/Turkish/whatever national being owed money - it turned into an US company.
And voila, Calin was able to repay. Totally not dubious.
Did not make it up lol https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4015015/#Comment_4015015
some articles are saying that the bank are blocking all crypto income.
You seem a little bit confused. That request was made after he had already messed up his own transfer from crypto to bank (most likely his personal, not company, bank account).
This was agreement prior the payment:
Moving that amount as legally operating business is normally not an issue with far fewer reporting requirements than when doing so personally (i.e. as a HNWI/UHNWI). It really depends on the individual circumstance. Going back as far as genesis - most likely not, but there needs to be sufficient justification for the bank to know the crypto didn't come from thin air. So going through Tornadocash before moving to your bank - not recommended. :-)
Wohoo, @Calin did repay @crunchbits in full. How creepy! Typical scammer!
Is there a limit to how dirty you go, or is turning "Calin properly repayed his debt to crunchbits" into "see! Evidence of how dubious Calin is." finally the end of the line?
You really are on a mission to smear and damage @Calin, let's hope that gossd (if it's not you real persona anyway) at least pays you well.
Cry more :-)
Yeah, didn't say that calin's part was fully clear. He shouldn't've said that. But the option for a refund was right into GoSSD's face and they could've opted out from this after seeing that KYC might be required.
Either way, this does help to prove that Calin wasn't intending to scam GoSSD and take the money for himself as other people try to prove.
this is true, it gets easier the larger the figure which my undergrad mind found brain bending (this goes for customers too... smaller customers fuck your brains up the most)
Wild dreams are not a crime, so just go on ...
Almost all in Romania.
I mentioned earlier in this thread (can’t recall the exact page) that 99.99% of the time, large sums (anything over 10K) are flagged as potential money laundering and treated accordingly.
What likely made things worse in this case was the lack of any previous history of Crypto to FIAT transfers with that bank.
This doesn’t excuse Calin from messing up; it’s his fault for getting himself into this situation. A lack of knowledge doesn’t absolve someone of responsibility. The only thing I didn’t see was an intent to scam.
That is the only reason I replayed here, nothing more.
In my opinion, a scam involves intent, whereas a mistake is due to a lack of knowledge.
How he chooses to fix the mistake is entirely up to him.
Huh? What are you even talking about? Calin requested KYC after the money from his own (an not clients) transaction was already frozen. Before that, he guaranteed that KYC wasn’t needed and that he would refund the money in case of issues.
And then you're wondering why there are 50 pages of posts...
Again from the beginning?
What you're missing is the fact that there are no documents that GoSSD can send him and Calin knows that. Bank? What bank? GoSSD received crypto from his own client and paid Calin with that crypto, just as they agreed. No problems here.
The problem arose with Calin's personal transactions from his crypto wallet to bank. What if there were crypto from several clients, not just that one? Monthly payments from 10 or 200 of them? Would he blame those as well? GoSSD or anyone else has nothing to do with Calin's bank - absolutely nothing. Calin is the one who should prove the source of the money he sent from his crypto wallet to his own bank. If he sent that crypto to a personal account instead of a business account, well... tough luck. But that's not GoSSD's problem anymore.
Honestly some people in this thread are exactly like this man in this stock photo.
The money is gone and I'm a little bewildered on why the mods won't step in and end this thread at page 52.
We're not exactly going anywhere except rehashing what we all know.
maybe because it has 61K views in just 15 days?
Just some quick info. According to crunchbase @GoSSDHosting is a bit lower than number 800000 out of about 2.7 million companies in India. In other words it seems to rank in between some shoe shop in a small city and a rural farm.
But hey, it certainly has lots of impact on the web, right? Well, according to the data (source same as above) gossd managed to get (a bit over) 80% less page views than before (presumably on a month by month base). Now, better fix your seat belts! Their site has received a whopping 270 views (presumably this month).
Yeah that certainly sounds like a company that easily "absorbs" a (possibly temporary) loss of 20 k$. And tootally not like a company who simply couldn't afford to buy a server for their customer or like a company who turned completely quiet after a last all-in attempt to attack @Calin!
Please note that my intent is not to smear gossd or to ridicule small relatively new companies. It rather is to put things - and views - into somewhat more of a balance. A shouting "B is a scammer and a small shady company anyway!!!" does not mean that that's true nor does it mean that company A is a serious and honest player.
I sincerely hope - for both of them! - that my take is about right, that this whole story here was not a scam but rather mistakes made by both sides, and most importantly that the bank liberates the money and Calin can and will either provide the products or refund gossd and both can continue their business and hopefully have learned from that experience.
My personal blog only has 3 page views per year, does that mean I don't have 20 grand?
Hint: "personal" indicates that that blog is not a company blog. And that was what I was talking about, a company, namely gossd.
But OK- even then -80+% views and a total of less than 300 views does not necessarily mean that they don't have 20 k$ - but it strongly suggests it. And that was all I said.
TLDR:
Never trust any Romanian or Turk, there are only crooks and thieves there.
Flagged.
I disagree, i know good people who are Turk.
Ive good experience with @Andreix and @host_c . So i cant agree with that.
Hi,
i think its one thing to ask for grey-zone or even illegal stuff on one hand and to take money for a service that was not delivered in combination with money not have been refunded ( fully ).... Thats the core problem in this whole story and the only reason why this story is actually a story.
There are so many countries on this planet with so many different laws. Its natural that some might allow something that is not allowed in another country. And this way its legit to offer services that are considered illegal in country A why its legal in country B.
But for sure there is not a single country existing where you can legally take the money but not delivery something for it.
So i dont see here the logic being hurt actually...