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Calin iHostART.Com took our $22.5K and scamming us!
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A putler-lover's opinion means nothing. You could even present proof of your allegations and nobody here will believe you.
I've got this in PM - can anyone say what was the resolution for this ?
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/191097/calin-ihostart-com-took-4500-and-trying-to-scam-let-opinion/p1
Eh, idk if i'll be super active. I just wanted to see if I can somehow back Calin's part or something because everyone seems to be staying on the thread owner's side.
I wonder if Calin would've opened a thread entitled "My customer sent me fake documents and bank is holding $20k. I currently invested all my money into assets for the company and cannot pay the customer back until the bank unholds the money or customer gives valid documents. What should I do?" or something like that, if users would've backed Calin's side.
I bought thousands of $ worth of hardware from Calin and he could've scammed me many times. It's not like he's an old friend of mine or something, but it sucks seeing him being disrespected by some random user that achieved nothing bigger than Calin.
My opinion is that we shall let the parties solve their issue and then make a big f ing drama out of it and blaming.
I may follow this thread in silence again.
He should do since this can be subject to Law - defamation. ("Everyone") - @Andreix all he wants is to get ban both parties. You know what is funny, in a couple of days he will have to pay taxes for that $20K.
Enlighten us here, after 51 pages, what are the facts.
A -> sends 20K in cripto to B ( B is known not to handle crypto well on this forum )
B -> messes up the transfer to FIAT in he's company's Bank
Bank freezes the money and asks for clarifications
B -> contacts A for further clarifications, it does not go well, on both sides, fake papers are sent, A accuses B that KYC was not part of the deal, B has the money frozen by the bank, and does not deliver to A
A -> opens this tread calling B a scammer and here we are
You can screenshot whatever crypto transfers here, it does not have anything to do with the problem of B. A few pages back, there is a statement from BT ( Banca Transilvania ) that says 98.000 RON Frozen, end of story. - this is the whole problem.
Now, unless you’re familiar with Romanian fiscal legislation, your input is effectively zero—not just yours, but anyone’s. - no offense, guys, but things operate differently in each country. I wouldn’t comment on French banking legislation because, even though they’re in the EU, every country has its own internal rules.
The real problem is the bank lock. Now, you can all read the entire internet, but the only person who can effectively solve this issue is the company’s administrator ( calin ) —no one else. A lawsuit on this matter would take ages to resolve.
If he doesn’t provide whatever the bank requested, the money will be probably seized and he’ll likely face a lawsuit for money laundering. Fruits and vegetables didn’t help.
. Option B would that BT would transfer back the $ to the crypto-exchange, but I highly doubt it.
Now, where exactly am I defending Calin in this? Stating that I saw no scam intent, only poor handling of the situation?
Also, since you're a Crypto veteran, I expected you to understand the metrics behind this.
That only if he is not that stupid to avoid declaring it.
I don't know how you missed it, but everything beyond:
is no longer the OP's responsibility. Calin explicitly promised a refund if this exact situation happens.
Could you send me a link to this?
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4016049/#Comment_4016049
~22106.89 USD by today's exchange rate.
And what is the reason for ?
This has been explained by Calin and other users a few times in this thread. Once again unnecessary drama just covers the important messages from this post.
Everyone can be stupid and create mini-dramas out of this big drama that basically have no value for new users reading it through trying to find essential information about whether Calin is legitimate or not, but this doesn't mean it helps in solving this case.
So, if this screenshot is real (anyone can fabricate super serious legal letters), it would only make sense if the funds were locked AFTER Calin tried to spend them. In that case, the bank would not lock the funds for over two months. And the bank would be more interested in where Calin is sending the funds and why, not where they came from, since the bank already accepted the funds.
Still, this isn't OP's issue, Calin should be refunding already because he received the money.
@wolfypro and other are right,
SCAM has nothing to do with it, now we can all beat the crap out of calin, but that will not solve the issue, and the issue is between Calin and GoSSDHosting + som papers that need to be exchanged so at least GoSSDHosting get's the $ back.
I see more fair if it was published the entire paper, not just the title and sum. But I think this was sent to admins.
You are wrong again, do at least an AI translate on it will ya,
La data curenta ( by this date ) aveti urmatoarele sume bolcate ( you have these coresponding values locked/blocked) :
98.373,74 RON aferenta tranzactiei ( from the transcation ) XXXXXXXX
So it was Held/locked at inbound.
So Calin has intentionally mislead the OP then? The arrangement was: Calin receives smaller sums, then moves them to his bank account bit for bit so there's no issue. Clearly, if there's one large blocked transfer, he didn't do as agreed to.
That banking does not have an app, where you can see if the sum are locked ?
GoSSD doesn't want the money back because they can't or won't provide the required paperwork. At the same time, they want the money back if it's coming out of Calin's pocket, without any paperwork
a > @EndlessGravity said:
It's nice how you just joined this forum and decided to side with a single person on the entire journey. Instead of taking under consideration the given facts, you decided to trust a side and call the other side a whole liar even though they've given as much proof as possible.
You can try convincing as many people as possible that Calin is taking this money for himself, but if this ever gets sorted out you'll realise that you've scammed yourself by writing tens of unnecessary replies while having the wrong story in your mind.
If @GoSSDHosting won't provide the paperwork but somehow @Calin won this case with the bank and refund the money back - basically that income become legit ?
I have no idea how did the kid transfer the sums, as I recall in small statement of 2500 USD. even so, INT transfers are processed within ~3 days, so if he transferred 22K in 24H, there is a high possibility it went to he's bank in 1 sweep. even so. Banks have a list of IBAN that Crypto exchanges use, so even if he did a transfer 1 / day the bank might have just wanted to see if there are any more funds cumming in or not, to see the whole sum.
So, no more discussion about the case? Why exactly? And why are the ones who don't want it discussed anymore the most active in the thread tonight?
Imho. some people aren't triggered just by this case, but by the pile of mischiefs that led up to it. With all the crap he pulled in the past, it was only a matter of time before he caused some major damage and people just don’t want to let it go like they have so many times before.
If Calin gives the money back in crypto then it won't become "legit". Very likely GoSSD will just not declare them and find another provider that accepts crypto without KYC.
Yah, that is the definition of money-laundering right?
That would be the first in RO.
The only high probability here on that money is confiscation + law suit on the Administrator of the Company.
Yeah.. anyways, here's a picture with some cute cat i found on google!
I can tell you based on my own experience, having banks accept your crypto-money is difficult, you almost need to purchase it on Coinbase, never move it away from there and then withdraw it again, for them to be satisfied with the paper trail. As soon as cold wallets are involved or other transactions occur that might be hard to trace, they will usually stop accepting the transfers. I've moved over $500,000.00 from crypto to bank before, but that requires every single exchange/trade/movement/beep to be documented.
That said, the OP was aware of this, hence the precautions taken. What OP didn't factor into the equation is Calin's stupidity or malicious intent, which of the two it is, will come to light at some point.
OP made it very clear that they don't want KYC and couldn't produce the paperwork. And I'm not blaming them, if you don't intentionally manage your crypto in a way where everything can be documented, they might simply be unable to without having any criminal background.
In a couple of days he will pay taxes for that income of $20K.
He wants his money back - why wouldn’t he? But there’s a problem: he received a crypto payment from his client as well, and Calin knows that GoSSDH can’t provide bank documents because the bank wasn’t even involved in the transactions between them.
He’s pretty much stuck, as he can’t show bank documents for transactions that don’t exist, and Calin, while blaming him, knows this as well.
I'm reading this forum since ~2020 and I was considering to join the last time Calin mislead a customer and refused to return $4,500.00, but ended up not doing so. Seeing another story with yet another larger sum and people pretending crypto would be the issue, that was the point where I decided to sign up and start adding context to people's speculation.