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HostHatch suspended server and ignores ticket

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  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @lirrr said:
    fr I would use all the time you try to argue with @emgh to go help reply all the tickets you had instead

    and yes I'm your customer not a troll if you want the evidence

    I appreciate the feedback, and our 24/7/365 support is already doing its best on that. My duties include a lot of other things than support, and those duties are being completed (we have checks and balances in place). :)

    Thanked by 1MrWonder
  • sybesybe Member
    edited September 2024

    @hosthatch said:

    @sybe said: but this this street goes both ways.

    Indeed :) The facts seem to support what I am saying though, unless you have another reason for why someone would go messiah mode to take out most of his day to help other people against one provider particular provider, while also advertising providers in his signature who do the exact same so called scam that he is against :)

    May I am mistaken though, and maybe he is as good of a person who just wants to help other people and has nothing but unbiased attitude towards us, and the advertisement of his signature is just yet another coincidence.

    Yes, like someone else stated here below, @emgh's participation can be interprated that way. But I believe it would've been better if you took the high road. If every influencer responded to everything, what of a mess would that look like?

    @skorous said:

    @emgh said: I saw now that I sent the DM in August 2022, so it’s even more irrelevant.

    Don't take this as an attack because it's honestly not, k? Sometimes the zeal with which you come after Hosthatch it does feel personal. Again, I'm not saying it is but it sometimes seems that way. Then just minutes later you'll post something perfectly reasonable ( again, for clarity, this is only my opinion on what's "reasonable" ).

    @emgh said:
    @sybe he basically asked me to create that thread, he’s not telling you that.

    He said:

    I'll be happy to answer all of your questions once you document your earlier assumptions with actual data (such as screenshots, like the OP has provided). Otherwise, I am going to assume you are just trolling at this point with your assumptions, and will have to ignore your need for stirring up drama.

    I said:

    Let’s make a thread. I’ll make one regarding your lies about cores. Maybe you’ll answer in that one.

    He thanked that post.

    Then he had a whole episode about the fact that I created a thread.

    I see, if that's true, that is incredibly sad to use against you. But I think I've shared my personal stance/opinion of this situation now enough, and will not put any more energy into it. I wish @hosthatch and you @emgh all the best. :)

    Thanked by 2emgh hosthatch
  • RocksterRockster Member
    edited September 2024

    @hosthatch said:

    @Rockster said: weeks of outage

    Alright then. I'll show myself out (once again). There is no weeks of outage, and you using those words clearly shows that your purpose is more drama and not the factual truth.

    You're very selective in how you read and comprehend what's posted, ignoring the essence of the argument. Are you doing this on purpose, or is that just some sort of defensive mechanism?

    How do 8+ days make it any better? If anything, you should be doing it right for a client with an 8+ day outage, rather than arguing about "don't victimize me, it's not two weeks outage yet".

    Let's repost it, replacing "weeks" with "week and something", if that makes you feel any better.

    @Mad said:

    It's not even a matter of being on a promo plan or not.
    it's simply unacceptable waiting for 8 days (yes, it's been 8 days now) to get a response for a server being down (their fault).
    You're paying for it (whatever the price is) and this should not stand at all.

    This is the key point people keep telling him, but he simply doesn't get it. It's not about slow support, it's about taking care of the service he's selling.
    The problem is always with promo clients, unrealistic expectations, and other excuses, while in reality, it's about him not doing his own part.
    And god forbid you complain after week and something of outage in a ticket because the next step is passive-aggressive: "We're canceling your service, here's your refund, now gtfo" as all this would be your own fault. What a jerks.

    Thanked by 2emgh Mad
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited September 2024

    @sybe said: Yes, like someone else stated here below, @emgh's participation can be interprated that way.

    Do you think it's a resonable assumption that BuyVM is paying me for not letting HostHatch spread lies about me without even responding?

    In a scenario where I wasn't a paid shill, I'd then accept his bullshit without responding, then?

    It makes absolutely no sense.

    I haven't even responded to him directly for the past page(s), I've just been waiting for a mod to tell him to stop spreading obvious lies.

  • sybesybe Member
    edited September 2024

    @emgh said:

    @sybe said: Yes, like someone else stated here below, @emgh's participation can be interprated that way.

    Do you think it's a resonable assumption that BuyVM is paying me for not letting HostHatch spread lies about me without even responding?

    In a scenario where I wasn't a paid shill, I'd then accept his bullshit without responding, then?

    It makes absolutely no sense.

    I haven't even responded to him directly for the past page(s), I've just been waiting for a mod to tell him to stop spreading obvious lies.

    Personally I don't think you're paid to be in this thread, that is absurd. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @sybe said:

    @emgh said:

    @sybe said: Yes, like someone else stated here below, @emgh's participation can be interprated that way.

    Do you think it's a resonable assumption that BuyVM is paying me for not letting HostHatch spread lies about me without even responding?

    In a scenario where I wasn't a paid shill, I'd then accept his bullshit without responding, then?

    It makes absolutely no sense.

    I haven't even responded to him directly for the past page(s), I've just been waiting for a mod to tell him to stop spreading obvious lies.

    Personally I don't think you're paid to be in this thread, that is absurd. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

    Thank you.

    Thanked by 1sybe
  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member
    edited September 2024

    @emgh said:
    Reported the comment above (edit: two comments above😆) for breaking don’t be a dick by clearly insinuating that I get paid from BuyVM to post my thoughts.

    I can take personal insults any day, any time. But I won’t take groundless accusations of obvious lies to invalidate anything I write.

    Haven’t reported anything from this thread until now but the above is just too much.

    Your parents should have named you Karen. Holy crap man, don't be such a whiny bitch flagging shit and make assertions HH clearly didn't make. If he was going to call you a shill, he'd just do that. Did you flag his post when he alluded to you being sour grapes over not hiring you because of your personality? Either way, just walk away from this thread, you're being the instigating dick.

    Edit: OK, he later explicitly says shill, but shills don't have to be paid. He has made his argument for why you're a shill and you whined to mods instead of proving him wrong.

  • @TimboJones said: Your parents should have named you Karen. Holy crap man, don't be...

    Complaining about complaning? Next-level shit :D

    Thanked by 2emgh tentor
  • @Rockster said:

    @TimboJones said: Your parents should have named you Karen. Holy crap man, don't be...

    Complaining about complaning? Next-level shit :D

    Its what the kids call, "meta".

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    hold on let me just prove a negative real quick

  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @TimboJones said:

    @emgh said:
    Reported the comment above (edit: two comments above😆) for breaking don’t be a dick by clearly insinuating that I get paid from BuyVM to post my thoughts.

    I can take personal insults any day, any time. But I won’t take groundless accusations of obvious lies to invalidate anything I write.

    Haven’t reported anything from this thread until now but the above is just too much.

    Your parents should have named you Karen. Holy crap man, don't be such a whiny bitch flagging shit and make assertions HH clearly didn't make. If he was going to call you a shill, he'd just do that. Did you flag his post when he alluded to you being sour grapes over not hiring you because of your personality? Either way, just walk away from this thread, you're being the instigating dick.

    Edit: OK, he later explicitly says shill, but shills don't have to be paid. He has made his argument for why you're a shill and you whined to mods instead of proving him wrong.

    I haven't gotten any warnings from mods, so I assume whoever looked at the report saw it for exactly what it is. Anyone who is not an angry underage kid (not pointing towards anyone, obviously) will see it the same way.

    The logic is quite straightforward:

    • He gets refused for a job for being an unstable child
    • He opens a thread saying "hosthatch is scam because of X reason"
    • He advertises multiple providers in his signature who do the same thing
    • He does not open any such threads (is too afraid to even comment about them) about the same thing

    If that is not shill/biased behavior, I don't know what is.

    On top of all of this, he somehow claims that his behavior is completely unbiased and not affected by things that would affect any human (such as getting refused from a job from the company that he is supposedly writing all this about).

    Thanked by 1TimboJones
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited September 2024

    I have made a last report to try to get mods to stop this crusade. I have not responded to HostHatch directly since the obvious lying started and I don’t intend to start now. Just trying to clear up the new lies so that it’s perfectly clear that he’s simply imagining.

    I’ll start by making it clear that the underage remark is a lie. I’m not underaged. Not sure where he got that from.

    He’s also continuing to purposfully leave out that I posted a good review of them years after my initial DM. I also never sent any job application. That’s not true either. I also didn’t get refused for being a child, I never got answered and didn’t bother actually sending in a formal application.

    In conclusion, just another post of fabricated lies to discredit me and my character. It’s simply not true.

    If openly discrediting someone by repeatedly lying about them is okay in a review thread, then I have some questions about if that’s okay for me to do in their next offer thread. I’m not saying I will, it’s not a threat, I’m just pointing out the logical flaw in continously not acting when it’s all just fabrications.

    I have hoped that it will stop at some point, but clearly it won’t without intervention, and I don’t think the intervention can be to close a bad review of HostHatch simply because he’s derailing it.

    Thanked by 1Marx
  • crusade) I love this Swedish kid

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @JohnFilch123 said:
    crusade) I love this Swedish kid

    This is a review of HostHatch. No reason to take out your aggressions in it. My DM’s is open if you’d like to do that, but this thread is about HostHatch.

  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited September 2024

    That's hard to watch without saying anything...

    @hosthatch said: The logic is quite straightforward:

    He gets refused for a job for being an unstable child

    Come on, man, you don't need to be so childish. Acting like calling someone, who hurt your feelings, online unstable makes you look any smarter...

    You don't like it. We get it. In fact, you don't like any criticism no matter how justified it is. We get that too. But every post you make now is an attempt to discredit someone on a personal level, acting as if you're some sort of victim and trolls are attacking you because they have nothing better to do, which is silly.
    Most of the criticism is well argued from your own clients, and acting offensive won't improve the situation.

    So what if he applied for a job? Seriously, so what? Did the others who commented on certain problematic aspects of your service also applied for a job with you? Are they just trolls? None of that matters - they are your clients. So stop acting like an asshole, as if it's always someone else's fault.

    You always justify your writing with "I speak directly", etc. Well, telling you that you're acting like an unstable child right now is also direct. Because you do.
    It’s not everything about someone applying for a job with you - that's your ignorance. No matter what people say, you ignore it and keep playing the victim. You’re not. Just a few days ago, someone posted that after 8 days of a reported downtime, still no one had responded to his ticket. That’s the real problem. Problem you choose to ignore, problem you’re incapable of dealing with and not someone applying for a job with you at some point.

    If you think better, it seems like you need all the help you can get. Maybe you should kindly ask @emgh if he's willing to take the PR position from you. From one unstable child to another? I'm pretty sure he would do a better job.
    I mean, come on, how hard is it to show at least some minimal empathy instead acting like a jerk to the people who report issues with the hosting, which are out of their control, and have no one responding to them for days and days?

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @Mumbly Thank you for writing that <3

  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited September 2024

    I mean, I understand that he's proud of his business and that he may have dealt with a lot of crap from clients. Some justified, some unjustified... Unfortunately, that part is the downside of bottom end of this industry. I get all that.
    But these his attacks on pa personal level, repeating random accusations that are nothing but silly, have nothing to do with that and are just disgusting.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited September 2024

    @Mumbly said: Come on, man

    Let me know if you are ready to challenge the facts.

    • He gets refused for a job for being an unstable child
    • He opens a thread saying "hosthatch is scam because of X reason"
    • He advertises multiple providers in his signature who do the same thing
    • He does not open any such threads (is too afraid to even comment about them) about the same thing

    Let me know which part is factually incorrect.

    Here is one more fact for you.

    Simply count the number of comments he has made on this thread. Him being a very biased/shill has nothing to do with anyone else having positive or negative experiences.

    Even if he decides to write something that is actually true, it is, by default, tainted - because of everything else he has written. Even a broken clock is right twice a day and all that. :)

  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @Mumbly said: repeating random accusations

    That is an interesting take, and quite offensive if you cannot back it up. I'd appreciate if you could provide evidence of the above being factually incorrect and/or lies. Thanks.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited September 2024

    Since the lies are now yet again repeated, I have already explained how they’re lies. To anyone reading, see this comment: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4025042/#Comment_4025042

    The above is just a copy paste of the same lies yet again.

    Thanked by 12little2lateee
  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited September 2024

    @hosthatch said: Let me know which part is factually incorrect.

    Do you happen to have PhD in Clinical Psychology to know who's unstable and who isn't (over the internet?) or that's just plain childish insult?
    I'd appreciate if you could provide evidence of the above being factually correct and true. Thanks.

    I mean, after your latest arguments, one can easily conclude that you're mentally unstable, but are you?

    You see, it's pretty easy to say that instead of dealing with client who's been waiting over 8 days for someone to respond to him regarding his service downtime, so he can use the paid service again.
    You keep avoiding real problems - problems on your side that lead to these discussions by using all kinds of defense mechanisms like denial, projection, displacement, etc.

  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    Thank you for clarifying that you do indeed agree with these:

    • He opens a thread saying "hosthatch is scam because of X reason"
    • He advertises multiple providers in his signature who do the same thing
    • He does not open any such threads (is too afraid to even comment about them) about the same thing

    Glad to know we still have people who can still see clear logic. :)

  • @Mumbly said:
    Do you happen to have PhD in Clinical Psychology to know who's unstable and who isn't (over the internet?) or that's just plain childish insult?

    PhD is not necessary for this. You are welcome :smiley:

  • Weren't you the one who complained about people with too much time in this thread, and who now spams the entire thread with zero contribution or substance in his writings?

    Thanked by 2emgh Marx
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @hosthatch said:
    Thank you for clarifying that you do indeed agree with these:

    Why are you now also lying about someone else as well? Just because he didn’t agree with you that makes it right for you to not even twist anything but completely fabricate what he wrote to make a point?

    He NEVER said that. It’s honestly sad how quickly you went from being a bit rude, to twisting the facts and then to openly and completely lying about what’s easily verifiable to feel good about yourself.

  • @hosthatch said:
    Thank you for clarifying that you do indeed agree with these:

    I am not sure if it's actually worth it for me to go to your infantile level now and respond to that...

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    Also, even IF what’s being said about me was true, that I am a mentally unstable child, dosen’t that make the personal attacks that much worse?

    A provider trying to bait a mentally unstable kid?

    I’m not sure that’s a better look.

  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @Mumbly said:

    @hosthatch said:
    Thank you for clarifying that you do indeed agree with these:

    I am not sure if it's actually worth it for me to go to your infantile level now and respond to that...

    I am sorry you feel that way. Regardless of how much you may dislike me or the way I write, let me know whenever you are ready to challenge the facts.

    • He gets refused for a job for being an unstable child
    • He opens a thread saying "hosthatch is scam because of X reason"
    • He advertises multiple providers in his signature who do the same thing
    • He does not open any such threads (is too afraid to even comment about them) about the same thing

    So far you have only clarified that you think I am not a very nice person for sharing he applied for a job (I agree, I would be a dick if I shared that for fun, but when it clearly sheds a light on his motivations behind being the most active user on this thread, not so much).

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited September 2024

    @hosthatch I’m so tired of your bullshit at this point. I’ve clearly explained the lies, you just act like that’s not the case.

    You also quoted me saying that HostHatch is a scam, you used actual quotes, where did I use the word scam? Care to bring that up?

    Also, finally, using ’unstable child’ as an insult on a public forum as a provider is obviously either very distasteful or even actually disgusting if you seriously think that’s true.

    So whatever it is, it’s either distasteful or disgusting and it’s a wonder that you’re still allowed to continue on with whatever it is that you’re doing.

    This is about your clients not being satisfied, the purpose of this thread was for a client of yours to show his dissatisfaction.

    Please stop derailing it and please stop openly lying about me personally. You’ve gone way past the line.

    Edit: The way you’re arguing is also extremely dishonest. You KNOW I was a happy client for years after my DM, however, you’re fine with pretending that’s not the case to continue on with your lies. I’ve reminded you of this several times in this thread alone.

  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    Not sure why we keep going in circles. You can easily fix this. I will apologize for any over the top remarks I have made about you, as soon as you stop shilling/biased behavior. Here is how (quote from earlier):

    @hosthatch said: I won't need to, as soon as you open threads against these providers (from your signature).

    https://inleed.com/virtual-server
    https://namecrane.com/store/shared-hosting (and their other brand, that you were a customer of earlier, before this one)

    One per provider, including their name in the headline, that uses the same/similar language as to what you used here; https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/195170/hosthatch-openly-lying-about-offers-only-providing-half-of-the-advertised-cores/p1 (or just replace our names with theirs) - so both of the threads get separately listed on Google with your "facts".

    I will have no reason to believe that you and your opinion towards us is particularly biased afterward. Until that happens, I really cannot force myself to ignore simple facts, and will have to clarify "who you are" to everyone, any time you decide to show up on....well, literally every thread that even remotely mentions our name.

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