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Calin iHostART.Com took our $22.5K and scamming us!

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  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    Easiest 20k of your life @Calin

    regards

    Thanked by 1JasonM
  • virtonovirtono 🚩 Patron Provider Tag Suspended

    @jsg said:

    @Akhil said:
    Some random guy claiming to be a provider trusts Calin with $20k in crypto.

    In fact, it seems that not the provider trusts Calin with $20k in crypto, but actually that providers customer did.

    @JasonM said:
    Just 2-3 months ago i had posted in another thread related to Calin/Romanian hosting services and suggested everyone to avoid services from those as "Romanian hosts = scam" (considering the history of summerhosts or scammers from the said region/country)

    Classical Nazi think. "The (all) jews are [whatever]", "The (all) jews Russians are untermenschen (subhumans)", etc. Absolutely not acceptable!

    How about replacing that with something less nazi and more sensible, like e.g. "as the rate of problematic cases is higher with romanian providers, caution is advisable. Tip: use LET (search) and have a closer look at a provider's history".

    Sadly, they've runied the future of any new, clean and innocent Romanian host that would be looking for credibility on LE or on other forums.

    Frankly, that might actually be a good thing, because it tends to keep those who nazi-generalize away.

    @Sululu said:
    Mention any Romanian host on LET who has not been involved in one heist or the other.

    Here you go. Even two: @virtono and @host_c

    Probably there are more, but those to from the top off my head. And btw, I've been or still am a customer of both, @Calin and @FlorinMarian, always paid in advance and have not been scammed or cheated (modulo halfway normal problems, problems at the beginning, short downtimes, etc.). While I'd, for the time being, not recommend either of those two to others, I have not been scammed by them.

    Thank you @jsg !
    I don't think we need> @jsg said:

    @Akhil said:
    Some random guy claiming to be a provider trusts Calin with $20k in crypto.

    In fact, it seems that not the provider trusts Calin with $20k in crypto, but actually that providers customer did.

    @JasonM said:
    Just 2-3 months ago i had posted in another thread related to Calin/Romanian hosting services and suggested everyone to avoid services from those as "Romanian hosts = scam" (considering the history of summerhosts or scammers from the said region/country)

    Classical Nazi think. "The (all) jews are [whatever]", "The (all) jews Russians are untermenschen (subhumans)", etc. Absolutely not acceptable!

    How about replacing that with something less nazi and more sensible, like e.g. "as the rate of problematic cases is higher with romanian providers, caution is advisable. Tip: use LET (search) and have a closer look at a provider's history".

    Sadly, they've runied the future of any new, clean and innocent Romanian host that would be looking for credibility on LE or on other forums.

    Frankly, that might actually be a good thing, because it tends to keep those who nazi-generalize away.

    @Sululu said:
    Mention any Romanian host on LET who has not been involved in one heist or the other.

    Here you go. Even two: @virtono and @host_c

    Probably there are more, but those to from the top off my head. And btw, I've been or still am a customer of both, @Calin and @FlorinMarian, always paid in advance and have not been scammed or cheated (modulo halfway normal problems, problems at the beginning, short downtimes, etc.). While I'd, for the time being, not recommend either of those two to others, I have not been scammed by them.

    ===========

    It's unfair to generalize based on nationality. Like in any industry, there are good and bad companies everywhere. Over the years, even companies from major economies have had issues, yet we don’t label entire countries because of a few bad actors.

    Romania is home to many talented IT professionals, and the country benefits from affordable, high-speed internet. These factors have contributed to the rise of more hosting companies here compared to other countries. For instance, IntoVPS (intodns) is well-known internationally. At Virtono.com, we've been in the hosting industry since 2010, operating under this brand since 2014, and have built a solid reputation over the years.

    Rather than generalizing, it’s more helpful to look at each company's track record. Forums like LET are great for checking a provider’s history and making informed decisions.

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  • LeviLevi Member

    @virtono said: Rather than generalizing, it’s more helpful to look at each company's track record.

    When you look at 5 web hosting companies in Romania and 3 of them are sketchy af - auto-generalization just happens.

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  • JasonMJasonM Member

    @Levi said: When you look at 5 web hosting companies in Romania and 3 of them are sketchy af - auto-generalization just happens

    I'll say 4 out of 5.

    Thanked by 3default sasslik fluffernutter
  • zGatozGato Member
    edited September 2024

    @Levi said:

    @virtono said: Rather than generalizing, it’s more helpful to look at each company's track record.

    When you look at 5 web hosting companies in Romania and 3 of them are sketchy af - auto-generalization just happens.

    I'm using @virtono @host_c @Hosteroid @dapavn @torchbyte and @Calin

    Only 1 of those has given me many issues, and I think it's rather clear who.
    I don't even check the country where the host is from in the first place, I couldn't care less. I also went all in with @AlbaHost without even caring about if their company is from Albania or not.

    Lost more money to US scams than any other country, and even then, I still trust in US companies.

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  • itachikonohaitachikonoha Member

    @JasonM said:

    @Calin said: Hello , still not any news from bank

    my bet is either bank will send the entire transactions amount back to your crypto wallet/provider if they found any fraudlent activity.

    I never heard bank conficating (forever) amount recevived if there is no government order to do so. Even if that is, the entire account is freezed in such cases.

    What did @GoSSDHosting do? did they went to file police case in their country? or they let go the entire amount. (donated to Calin)

    Exercising AML laws in most countries, banks can confiscate the amount which will later to be transffered to the federal bank if no documents can be shown as the source of money.

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  • EndlessGravityEndlessGravity Member

    @JasonM said:
    I never heard bank conficating (forever) amount recevived if there is no government order to do so. Even if that is, the entire account is freezed in such cases.

    You are right. The regulatory framework is intentionally stringent on what banks may seize and keep - otherwise banks would simply start "suspecting" transfers left and right and unjustly enrich themselves by locking up the funds.

  • zedzed Member
    edited September 2024

    whew i thought this thread might have been over, thanks guys.

  • zmeuzmeu Member

    @virtono said: For instance, IntoVPS (intodns) is well-known internationally.

    :love:

  • defaultdefault Veteran

    Romanian Lives Matter!

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  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    Romanian Sisters Matter!

  • zmeuzmeu Member
    edited September 2024

    @Levi said: When you look at 5 web hosting companies in Romania and 3 of them are sketchy af - auto-generalization just happens.

    https://peeringdb.com/ix/270
    https://peeringdb.com/fac/978

    Maybe it helps you find a good provider :lol:

    @default said:
    Romanian Lives Matter!

  • coldcold Member

    I've heard @Calin is planning to buy ovh and hetzner

    Thanked by 2zmeu host_c
  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep
    edited September 2024

    @Not_Oles said:

    @Andreix said: When I kept telling you that LET is promoting criminals, staff via @Not_Oles decided to give me a "severe" warn accompanied by the message: "you do your job, we do ours" basically.

    @Andreix

    The warning actually said, "Host Reps should not complain about other providers in the other providers' advertising threads. Please take it easy! Thanks! Tom @Not_Oles"

    This thread is not another provider's advertising thread, so maybe it's more appropriate for you to complain here than there.

    Please note that there are 5 warnings in your profile history, including two Severe warnings.

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/137719/lowendtalk-community-rules-updated-april-2023/p1#adminsmods

    Admins & Moderators Are People Too

    You'll be expected to treat us like human beings. We are not robots that experience no emotions. We are not contracted third parties. We are humans and members of this community.

    If you believe that one of us has acted out of turn and made an improper decision, you can request additional information or review via our Help Desk. Please understand that "request" does not mean you are entitled to either. We may approve or deny any request without stated reason. If that flares up your paranoia, maybe this community is not a good fit for you.

    I think you have a really good point that behavior by some people under discussion here might be criminal in some jurisdictions -- provided that proof was available. Maybe other jurisdictions might not require proof.

    Your warning that I issued was not about what you were saying, but about the threads where you choose to talk about it. It's not right for Host Reps and Providers to mess in their competitors' ad threads. You summarized the warning that I issued in a way which seems different from the actual meaning. Given this difference, and given the multiple warnings on your profile, and given the Admins & Moderators Are People Too rule, may I please ask you to take a week off from LET?

    Your ban by me, here, will automatically expire in a week unless some other staff member extends it. While you are on vacation, I hope you please take time to consider carefully that neither the possible criminal behavior at which you are pointing nor the fact that you are talking about that subject is the reason for my asking you to take a week off. The problem originally was the inappropriate place where you originally mentioned your point about criminal behavior, and now the problem is that you seem to be trying to attack my decisions as volunteer moderator by inappropriately summarizing my warning.

    By the way, if LET is, like you say, full of criminality, why do you want to keep your Host Rep tag here? Why do you even want to stay here as a menber? Well, I hope that you and I both want to improve LET and make the LET Community better.

    Please come back next week having taken some time to relax, to enjoy yourself, and to do good things that you yourself want to do. Please make positive contributions to the Community when you return. And, if your positive contributions are to call out possible problems like alleged criminal behavior, please don't do that in your competition's ad threads. Please also stop blaming things on LET's volunteer staff members like me. If you want to volunteer for the staff, to put your time into our LET Community for free, please file a support ticket asking to join the staff. We could use some more staff because the work load is high.

    Thanks and best wishes!

    It's good to be back. I asked for an extended ban from another mod as I wanted to leave this community for good and hopefully turn your temp ban into a permanent one.
    However, I have to admit I kinda missed LET those days and took an eye here and there from time to time and things like what @jar did for MyW made me reconsider my decision to leave the community, as it still looks like there's hope.

    Regarding your decision to ban me, I won't argue against it. Totally your right to take whatever action you believe it's fair. Guess it's safer for me to start scamming people for 20k+ USD than express my sadness about the moderation job some choose to do. As it turns out, at least I won't get banned for that.

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  • zmeuzmeu Member

    Welcome back, @Andreix .

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  • xieroxxxxieroxxx Member

    I didnt read the last 1000 comments (litterally) but i wonder why calin is still not banned if he havent paid back yet.

  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep

    @zmeu said:
    Welcome back, @Andreix .

    Thanks Dawg!

    Thanked by 1zmeu
  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep

    @xieroxxx said:
    I didnt read the last 1000 comments (litterally) but i wonder why calin is still not banned if he havent paid back yet.

    Maybe bribe?!

  • VoidVoid Member

    @cold said:
    I've heard @Calin is planning to buy ovh and hetzner

    That would be his brother, @FlorinMarian
    Maybe they’ll grow up together and buy Ovh.

    Thanked by 1cold
  • zmeuzmeu Member

    @Void said: buy Ovh

    $22K = 4 x LIR accounts (4 x /24s) after x years sold for $22K each /24s (total sum of $88K).

    Good investment.

  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep

    @zmeu said:

    @Void said: buy Ovh

    $22K = 4 x LIR accounts (4 x /24s) after x years sold for $22K each /24s (total sum of $88K).

    Good investment.

    Assuming you don't just die while still pending on Waiting List...

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  • zmeuzmeu Member

    @Andreix said: Assuming you don't just die while still pending on Waiting List...

    :lol:

  • AkhilAkhil Member

    @jsg said:

    @Akhil said:
    Some random guy claiming to be a provider trusts Calin with $20k in crypto.

    In fact, it seems that not the provider trusts Calin with $20k in crypto, but actually that providers customer did.

    from OP, flow of crypto

    the funds were transferred (customer -> reseller -> Calin/Man Hosting)

    Nevertheless, customer wouldn't have known about Calin until OP introduced and convinced them. OP is an old member here while this customer most likely isn't even a member. Unless OP had an intention to scam, I don't understand why they wouldn't have trusted Calin.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @Void said:
    That would be his brother, FlorinMarian

    We unbrothered him sometime ago.
    https://github.com/yoursunny/NDNts-video/commit/22e480b0171f811f58cde720e4e13bb621a2c2f4

  • coldcold Member

    @yoursunny said:

    @Void said:
    That would be his brother, FlorinMarian

    We unbrothered him sometime ago.
    https://github.com/yoursunny/NDNts-video/commit/22e480b0171f811f58cde720e4e13bb621a2c2f4

    life's hard, if you're a successful businessman, you need to choose btw love or money, @Calin chose money over love.

  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @yoursunny said:
    Romanian Sisters Matter!

    I read this thread, then left for some shopping, and this is what I find in the store on limited stock offer. What kind of universal conspiracy is this? Are you for real?!

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  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @cold said:
    life's hard, if you're a successful businessman, you need to choose btw love or money, Calin chose money over love.

    We have no interest in money.
    Why hasn't love come to us?

  • VoidVoid Member

    @yoursunny said:

    @Void said:
    That would be his brother, FlorinMarian

    We unbrothered him sometime ago.
    https://github.com/yoursunny/NDNts-video/commit/22e480b0171f811f58cde720e4e13bb621a2c2f4

    Calin is his new brother

  • VoidVoid Member

    @yoursunny said:

    @cold said:
    life's hard, if you're a successful businessman, you need to choose btw love or money, Calin chose money over love.

    We have no interest in money.
    Why hasn't love come to us?

    Your potential “love” has interest in money, very much.

    Thanked by 1sasslik
  • layer7layer7 Member, Host Rep, LIR

    @yoursunny said:

    @cold said:
    life's hard, if you're a successful businessman, you need to choose btw love or money, Calin chose money over love.

    We have no interest in money.
    Why hasn't love come to us?

    ... maybe its not your fault and money loves you too much? =)

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