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Calin iHostART.Com took our $22.5K and scamming us!

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  • @jsg said:
    Funny. @EndlessGravity registers on the day before @GoSSDHosting capitulates, and consistently sprays vitriol against @Calin.

    So, a (not really) wild guess:

    A company, in particular one probably not making millions in profit (in $) per year, doesn't decide to capitulate - in a war they themselves started! - within minutes. Nope, they ask and discuss with lawyers and consultants, they look into and evaluate diverse approaches to turn it into at least the appearance of a victory ("we decided o just absorb it" anyone?) or at least to not loose.

    They started this thread on September 7 and their intention was clearly recognizable: to smear Calin in order to force him into "absorbing" the problems and the expected damage. "reputation destruction" is a very old tactic and basically a form of blackmailing. If the victim doesn't have a very solid defense and clear evidence to show, they'll highly likely take a revenue hit and find themselves confronted with the question whether they shouldn't choose the - supposedly - cheaper path of giving in.
    In this case we even have concrete numbers. gossd's plan was to make Calin loose significantly more than about 20000$. And they knew that he was in a sensitive position due to diverse factors, his still ongoing attempt to create a more professional base (e.g. moving into a DC) being one major example.

    But alas, their dirty attack, "indian Mafia style hit" probably is a better term than "war", failed. Even worse, the situation risked to turn against themselves. Now, to some online community one can "sell" quite a lot of BS, especially when that BS rides on a somewhat tainted image of the victim - but with a bank, and potentially and even "worse" (for gossd) a public prosecutor, it's a very different game; those people ask for solid, tangible, and credible evidence and trying funny games with them risks to cost lots of money and possibly even ending in jail.

    Again, Calin IMO is not squeaky clean. His promises were kind of generously ignorant of relevant laws and rules. But then, that was exactly why gossd approached him. If gossd were, and I don't think they are, a clean company they wouldn't have asked for Calin to deliver what they asked for and what they knew (or at least should have known) to be questionable in the first place ...

    But be that as it may, they obviously noted that Calin at the very minimum saw some red lines he wasn't willing to cross and they also saw that, of bloody course, a bunch of Calin or "Romanians in general" haters and/or drama lovers (actually marauders who are only interested in a weird form of entertainment, for which others, aka the community, have to pay the cost) would take their side but that there also are people on LET who want to see evidence and who aren't that easily duped.

    So, gossd began to think about how to get out of the quagmire they had created, preferably with as little harm to themselves as possible.

    Et voila, on they day before they officially retreated and slid into the grey background, a new user appeared on the stage. And just so happened to continue to hit on Calin ...

    While gossd hasn't written any comment since their capitulation declaration.


    So I looked a bit closer .... Does my guess match the kind of company gossd is?

    Both gossd and 'serverhood' (who share the same phone number) seem to be owned by a indian company/group called 'TechAvenueLabs' in Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh, India, (indian company reg. number UDYAM-TS-02-0066581) according to available info, a micro enterprise with 1-10 employees in Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh, India, incorporated in July 2022. And it is their phone number that gossd tells as their indian one.
    That repeats with their USA phone number which 'serverhood', who seems to be only active in the UK so far shares with gossd.

    Oh, and how impressive they are! Looking at the websites of both, gossd and their indian "mother", 'TechAvenueLabs', it seems that they run their own data centers, but as bragging with major - and unlike themselves - actually well known names is part of their concept they spill the beans on their "Partners" page, which is full of, lets say not top-tier names, except for two, Equinix (hmmm, why would a mighty 1-10 employees indian company pretending to run their own DCs, need Equinix?) and Cloudf#&%! (whose free services they probably use). And hey, they are real tight partners! In fact, they even have separate pages for them, detailing their "strong partnership" ... with a short blurb (not even mentioning them) from the "partner".

    So, it seems my guess above is not far off.

    You want a cherry on top? OK, here you go: That indian group also runs "the hosting directory" site, that provides advice on how to find the best hosting provider for you, yes, tailored to you exacts needs. And they explain why they "stand out from the competition", too. Reasons: "We ensure all providers listed are verified and meet quality standards." ( of the neighbours cousine), "All reviews are from genuine users to help you make an informed decision." - well, unless they are from "Admin" who, you probably guessed it, published a copy of his hit piece OP here over there as a "real review" ...

    Now, guess, which , of course extremely "verified", provider just so happens to be the best in all their top-10 categories?

    For the final giggle: as they seem to be really desperate to turn gossd from a micro enterprise into a small enterprise ... they of course put "A Product Of by GoSSDHosting.com" in the footer of their totally 100% objective, neutral, not at all biased "which provider to chose?" site!

    Oh, btw, don't try to look at their indian site which they mention on their .com site. That domain does not even exist (any more?) ...

    I never read so much bullshit in one comment on here, you continue to excell.

    You're obviously a clown, saying anyone tried forcing Calin to absorb anything. Calin already was paid and gladly took the money, then didn't deliver the service nor refund the money, despite promising to do so in case anything goes wrong. In that sense, he wouldn't be absorbing anything, he received the money without issues (which he confirmed). That's the end of the story, whatever mental gymnastics you fabricate beyond that to justify anything is simply irrelevant. But all I need to do is go back to the Hostsolutions thread and see you for what you are.

    It's also laughable that you keep obsessing with my character, even though I have clarified that I have no relation to the OP in any way. I am additionally happy to certify that I have no relation to any other hosting company, never had, never will. I have better stuff to do than renting out servers for 10 bucks a year.

    I don't understand your angst or why you have the obsession you do. But normal people look at this and just shake their head.

    Thanked by 2blaming_f0x air4x
  • @techdragon said:

    @zmeu said:

    @Void said: assign providers some additional tags

    A rep. module where a customer can vote; or like/dislike.

    Unfortunately, this is possible to abuse a bit like a lot of review sites.

    There are providers here who make alt accounts just to bump their offers with 'DOUBLE ME' to keep it going and create perceived value.

    Purple, cough.

    Proof of your accusation? I would think a purple alt account would just be one of a thousand bumps and doesn't make much sense. So I'm curious what evidence you'd have or else it reflects badly on you.

  • @Benjiro29 said:
    I am just amazed at the amount of greed and stupidity on display. For people that work in the gray zone, you expect a bit of knowhow and less greed.

    You must be new.

  • @dfroe said:

    @default said:
    The only questions remaining: how and when will @Calin get the provider tag back?

    As soon as the money is released to buy new BilohBucks?

    I just don't understand in this whole story why he refuses to refound [sic.] the 22k for the scam of not providing the offered service. Nobody said it must be exactly that particular 22k the bank has frozen. Buy new cryptos for 22k and send them back the same way received. Or do your business and simply fullfil the part of the contract and provide the promised service.

    You're the rare person who wants to give back $20k of your own money if you don't have to. Others aren't.

    Thanked by 1dfroe
  • Tony40Tony40 Member
    edited September 2024

    The warning! don't use scamcoin or pay yearly for hosting.

    Thanked by 1JasonM
  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited September 2024

    @EndlessGravity said:
    I never read so much bullshit in one comment on here, you continue to excell.

    Cute albeit desperate looking attempt.

    What I told about my guess I clearly called such, a guess. But what I reported about gossd are simply facts, verifiable facts. You can of course try to just wipe them aside but that makes you the clown.

    You're obviously a clown, saying anyone tried forcing Calin to absorb anything. Calin already was paid and gladly took the money, then didn't deliver the service nor refund the money, despite promising to do so in case anything goes wrong. In that sense, he wouldn't be absorbing anything, he received the money without issues (which he confirmed). That's the end of the story, whatever mental gymnastics you fabricate beyond that to justify anything is simply irrelevant. But all I need to do is go back to the Hostsolutions thread and see you for what you are.

    It's also laughable that you keep obsessing with my character, even though I have clarified that I have no relation to the OP in any way. I am additionally happy to certify that I have no relation to any other hosting company, never had, never will. I have better stuff to do than renting out servers for 10 bucks a year.

    I see, you saying so makes it true ... (dream on!)

    I've yet to see a troll or utterly biased and registered specifically to hunt a specific provider to publicly and honestly say that, yes, that's what he came for. Such types always and invariably offer an "explanation" like yours.

    I don't understand your angst or why you have the obsession you do. But normal people look at this and just shake their head.

    I neither have an angst, and certainly not of you, nor do I have an obsession with either Calin or gossd. I simply dislike manhunts and agents with a clearly visible and negative interest. That's why I respond bluntly to people like you who register and immediately try to smear someone who's their target.

    Next time try a smarter approach than calling a guy with evidence a clown while you have nothing more than your self-declarations.

    You failed. Simple as that. I don't expect you to like me, in fact, I prefer you don't.

    Have a nice week.

  • Maybe it's not Calin scamming customer, it's the bank scamming Calin for 22.5k$ because Romania!? :-D

    Thanked by 2yoursunny JasonM
  • @Calin said:

    @bytheWay said: You haven't scammed them yet because there hasn't been an order worth $20k

    True , no 20k usd , but 40k usd :lol: , just from a single customer , again , GOSSDHosting it's not my big customer , i m have a customer what paid me 40k USD+

    So if they are not considered your 'big customer' and if you claim to have bigger customers, why not settle the refund with your own funds?

  • @BilohBucks said:
    Someone want popcorn?

    Yes please

  • Honestly how can some "big customer" be so stupid to trust calin with 40k usd + the internet is a place where anything can happen.

    Thanked by 1blaming_f0x
  • That is ridiculous @Calin, what does the customer have to do with your bank... you accept crypto the moment you receive them on the wallet address they are your money and the customer cant be blamed for your foolish (probably smart , its part of the play) transfer to your bank so they lock them up.. and in these cases aint noway the bank is taking the money like that without a court order.
    the shit gets crazier in here , cant wait for the calin scammed me 100k post, ban this guy already

    Thanked by 1blaming_f0x
  • Some random guy claiming to be a provider trusts Calin with $20k in crypto.
    As expected, Calin messes up.
    Massive drama ensues. Some even create alt accounts to stir the pot.
    Provider abandons the $20k.
    Drama continues.
    A few days later, all funds are safely returned to the provider.
    Even more drama.
    Calin clears his name.
    Drama continues.
    The whole thing is not at all staged for the sake of drama.

    Thanked by 2keon jsg
  • Just 2-3 months ago i had posted in another thread related to Calin/Romanian hosting services and suggested everyone to avoid services from those as "Romanian hosts = scam" (considering the history of summerhosts or scammers from the said region/country)

    I never knew that within such short-span of time we will witness another Romanian host (ihostart.com) involved in scamming a customer and thus loosing the provider-tag but more than that the credibility of doing business with Romanian web hosts in LE world has been lost. Users will only buy a $7 a year VPS and not invest anything more which may lead to loosing money in future fraudlent scheme.

    Sadly, they've runied the future of any new, clean and innocent Romanian host that would be looking for credibility on LE or on other forums.

    :'( :|

  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @zmeu said:

    @techdragon said: Are the fees worth paying for a $5 transaction?

    If you use bc1... the fees are 1$ or less.

    Until next on-chain activity spike.

    I prefer Lightning Network for small Bitcoin transactions, which are not only in most cases significantly cheaper than on-chain but mich faster (almost immediate)

    Thanked by 1zmeu
  • @Akhil said: A few days later, all funds are safely returned to the provider.

    Not gonna happen. Once con artist lands his hands on the money - it is GG.

    Thanked by 2sasslik sasslik
  • @JasonM said:

    Sadly, they've runied the future of any new, clean and innocent Romanian host that would be looking for credibility on LE or on other forums.

    :'( :|

    >

    Mention any Romanian host on LET who has not been involved in one heist or the other.

    I am just curious to know, so I do not jump to conclusions

    Thanked by 1JasonM
  • @Sululu said:

    @JasonM said:

    Sadly, they've runied the future of any new, clean and innocent Romanian host that would be looking for credibility on LE or on other forums.

    :'( :|

    >

    Mention any Romanian host on LET who has not been involved in one heist or the other.

    I am just curious to know, so I do not jump to conclusions

    Voxility. Except spamming they are clean.

    Thanked by 1sasslik
  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @JasonM said:
    Sadly, they've runied the future of any new, clean and innocent Romanian host that would be looking for credibility on LE or on other forums.

    Register a UK or Wyoming LLC.
    Nobody will know.

    Thanked by 2mw cybertech
  • @yoursunny said:

    @JasonM said:
    Sadly, they've runied the future of any new, clean and innocent Romanian host that would be looking for credibility on LE or on other forums.

    Register a UK or Wyoming LLC.
    Nobody will know.

    why not register your deep Atlantic storage service that way?

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @Void said:

    @yoursunny said:

    @JasonM said:
    Sadly, they've runied the future of any new, clean and innocent Romanian host that would be looking for credibility on LE or on other forums.

    Register a UK or Wyoming LLC.
    Nobody will know.

    why not register your deep Atlantic storage service that way?

    We are an Antarctica corporation.
    We pay our taxes ๐ŸŸ to the governor ๐Ÿง.

  • @yoursunny said:

    @Void said:

    @yoursunny said:

    @JasonM said:
    Sadly, they've runied the future of any new, clean and innocent Romanian host that would be looking for credibility on LE or on other forums.

    Register a UK or Wyoming LLC.
    Nobody will know.

    why not register your deep Atlantic storage service that way?

    We are an Antarctica corporation.
    We pay our taxes ๐ŸŸ to the governor ๐Ÿง.

    Emperor ๐Ÿง

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • @Void said:

    Emperor ๐Ÿง

    Hell yeah!


    Emperor - I Am the Black Wizards

  • zmeuzmeu Member
    edited September 2024

    @Sululu said:
    Mention any Romanian host on LET who has not been involved in one heist or the other.
    I am just curious to know, so I do not jump to conclusions

    @intovps best services in Romania. ;)

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @Akhil said:
    Some random guy claiming to be a provider trusts Calin with $20k in crypto.

    In fact, it seems that not the provider trusts Calin with $20k in crypto, but actually that providers customer did.

    @JasonM said:
    Just 2-3 months ago i had posted in another thread related to Calin/Romanian hosting services and suggested everyone to avoid services from those as "Romanian hosts = scam" (considering the history of summerhosts or scammers from the said region/country)

    Classical Nazi think. "The (all) jews are [whatever]", "The (all) jews Russians are untermenschen (subhumans)", etc. Absolutely not acceptable!

    How about replacing that with something less nazi and more sensible, like e.g. "as the rate of problematic cases is higher with romanian providers, caution is advisable. Tip: use LET (search) and have a closer look at a provider's history".

    Sadly, they've runied the future of any new, clean and innocent Romanian host that would be looking for credibility on LE or on other forums.

    Frankly, that might actually be a good thing, because it tends to keep those who nazi-generalize away.

    @Sululu said:
    Mention any Romanian host on LET who has not been involved in one heist or the other.

    Here you go. Even two: @virtono and @host_c

    Probably there are more, but those to from the top off my head. And btw, I've been or still am a customer of both, @Calin and @FlorinMarian, always paid in advance and have not been scammed or cheated (modulo halfway normal problems, problems at the beginning, short downtimes, etc.). While I'd, for the time being, not recommend either of those two to others, I have not been scammed by them.

  • zmeuzmeu Member
    edited September 2024

    @jsg said: generalize away

    @jsg are them turned 16 yet - atleast?

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @zmeu said:

    @jsg said: generalize away

    @jsg are them turned 16 yet - atleast?

    ??

  • zmeuzmeu Member
    edited September 2024

    @jsg said: ??

    There's 43 pages, only a few had some good replies but most of them as you said in 4022839 - "Classical Nazi think.", "Romanian hosts = scam".

  • @jsg said: Probably there are more, but those to from the top off my head. And btw, I've been or still am a customer of both, @Calin and @FlorinMarian, always paid in advance and have not been scammed

    try paying Calin more than a few 1000s and watch getting your money robbed.

    of curse he will not rob you for $5 lol

    Thanked by 3sasslik Sululu ps20090
  • needs me one of those LET user blockers for jsg

  • Where is cociu? I miss my old friend

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