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Calin iHostART.Com took our $22.5K and scamming us!

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  • zmeuzmeu Member

    @cold said: new car ?

    With that sum you can get only a used car. Discuss are just being bumped up. :smiley:

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @cold said:
    so, did @Calin already bought a new car ?or you guys still fighting?

    https://calin.rip/

  • zmeuzmeu Member

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  • HostSlickHostSlick 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @cold said:
    so, did @Calin already bought a new car ?or you guys still fighting?

    Leasing on company better. To optimize the tax @Calin

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited September 2024

    @zmeu said:

    My i m have lov chattie gippity

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  • defaultdefault Veteran

    Can we please keep this thread clear of artificial intelligence?

    I want to read the opinion of humans, your opinion, not some filter of a stupid robot.

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @default said:
    Can we please keep this thread clear of artificial intelligence?

    I want to read the opinion of humans, your opinion, not some filter of a stupid robot.

    It was in Romanian, obviously this time it was helpful. Not everyone will now have to go translate.

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  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited September 2024

    @yoursunny said:

    @cold said:
    so, did @Calin already bought a new car ?or you guys still fighting?

    In your location could one buy a supercar with $22.5k worth in cryptocurrency?

  • LeviLevi Member

    @default said: In your location could one buy a supercar with $22.5k worth in cryptocurrency?

    You can buy supercar for less then $20k. Of course with tiny, minor defects but romanian garage masters will pump it to the new condition.

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  • coldcold Member

    @yoursunny said:

    @cold said:
    so, did @Calin already bought a new car ?or you guys still fighting?

    https://calin.rip/

    I take your word for it @yoursunny a CEO/BIG BOSS like him needs to be trust worthy, or the business won't run well.

  • coldcold Member

    @default said:

    @yoursunny said:

    @cold said:
    so, did @Calin already bought a new car ?or you guys still fighting?

    In your location could one buy a supercar with $22.5k worth in cryptocurrency?

    ofc! probably with a motor from a Lada, but it takes you from A to B...

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  • zmeuzmeu Member

    @yoursunny who's Akile ?

  • CloudHopperCloudHopper Member

    So what I don't get about this thread is....

    If I pay for something in cash and the seller loses that money on the way to the bank, how the f*ck is that my problem???

    I mean, obviously it'd be my problem if the seller is unable to return the funds or deliver the service....but, regardless, the seller would be entirely responsible for the loss, whether they can cover it or not.

    I realise there's a lot more to this story, but some of the gymnastics to avoid that basic truth in this thread are migraine-inducing 🤷‍♀️

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  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @CloudHopper said:
    If I pay for something in cash and the seller loses that money on the way to the bank, how the f*ck is that my problem???

    1. You pay for something with a duffle bag worth of cash that you just robbed from bank A.
    2. The seller drives the cash to bank B. On the way, the dye pack explodes, ruining both the cash and the car.
    3. You are still guilty of robbery and you have to pay for car repairs.
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  • coldcold Member

    @CloudHopper said:
    So what I don't get about this thread is....

    If I pay for something in cash and the seller loses that money on the way to the bank, how the f*ck is that my problem???

    I mean, obviously it'd be my problem if the seller is unable to return the funds or deliver the service....but, regardless, the seller would be entirely responsible for the loss, whether they can cover it or not.

    I realise there's a lot more to this story, but some of the gymnastics to avoid that basic truth in this thread are migraine-inducing 🤷‍♀️

    if you buy from Romanian seller

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  • LeviLevi Member

    @CloudHopper said:
    So what I don't get about this thread is....

    If I pay for something in cash and the seller loses that money on the way to the bank, how the f*ck is that my problem???

    I mean, obviously it'd be my problem if the seller is unable to return the funds or deliver the service....but, regardless, the seller would be entirely responsible for the loss, whether they can cover it or not.

    I realise there's a lot more to this story, but some of the gymnastics to avoid that basic truth in this thread are migraine-inducing 🤷‍♀️

    Try to hack the system, you only need 20k for experiment. In worst case you will support calins car purchase.

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  • zmeuzmeu Member

    Who doesn't love Romania ? We good but some people really needs an expert advice to learn how to run a business. An accountant at least. The issue comes when the funds of Bitcoin's was touched Coinbase base from a shady wallet and arrived on Romanian territory.

    Can be this an exit scam? :lol:

  • malignifymalignify Member

    @zmeu said:
    Who doesn't love Romania ? We good but some people really needs an expert advice to learn how to run a business. An accountant at least. The issue comes when the funds of Bitcoin's was touched Coinbase base from a shady wallet and arrived on Romanian territory.

    Can be this an exit scam? :lol:

    Can be a moment of silence for both parties :D

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  • zmeuzmeu Member

    https://www.reddit.com/r/robursa/comments/1b73fuk/comment/ktgcvs6/

  • lirrrlirrr Member

    which Romania providers I can trust from now on?

  • zmeuzmeu Member

    @lirrr said:
    which Romania providers I can trust from now on?

    I know a few but I am not gonna tag them on this thread.

  • hyena56hyena56 Member

    @lirrr said:
    which Romania providers I can trust from now on?

    @host_c is quite good

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  • johndeo983johndeo983 Member

    @CloudHopper said:
    So what I don't get about this thread is....

    If I pay for something in cash and the seller loses that money on the way to the bank, how the f*ck is that my problem???

    I mean, obviously it'd be my problem if the seller is unable to return the funds or deliver the service....but, regardless, the seller would be entirely responsible for the loss, whether they can cover it or not.

    I realise there's a lot more to this story, but some of the gymnastics to avoid that basic truth in this thread are migraine-inducing 🤷‍♀️

    It is self-evident to everyone that there was fraud here, those who defend him bought for a year and are afraid of the inevitable Deadpool

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  • sassliksasslik Barred
    edited September 2024

    @lirrr said:

    which Romania providers I can trust from now on?

    Shock Hosting offers various web, vps and dedicated services, and they are the only ones I would trust. Oh, wait, they’re not a Romanian company.

  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @yoursunny said:

    @cold said:
    so, did @Calin already bought a new car ?or you guys still fighting?

    https://calin.rip/

    If that is 22K, sign me in :D . I'l take it even if it has no engine. :D :D

  • zmeuzmeu Member

    @johndeo983 in the end the funds will arrive into Coinbase base - from where they belongs, in Bitcoin. If this was a scam, customer it should report and mark this transaction with Coinbase.

  • defaultdefault Veteran

    At the Summer Olympics 2028, which will be held in Los Angeles, there should be a new competition: Mental Gymnastics. We have some really good competitors, just in this thread alone.

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  • EndlessGravityEndlessGravity Member

    As a seasoned cryptocurrency industry veteran, following some of the commentary in this thread is painful. In fact, it is the sole reason I have decided to sign-up to this forum, so I could share my perspective and judgement on this situation. I have transacted cumulative volume in the 8 figures from crypto to fiat and vice-versa, in both a personal and professional capacity, so much of the insight is based on first-hand experience and can easily be confirmed to be true.

    Let's get the basics right:

    1. Customer XYZ engages @GoSSDHosting for servers
    2. In consequence @GoSSDHosting engages @Calin
    3. Customer XYZ has no engagement with @Calin

    Based on everything I have read over the last 29 pages, I have no reason to believe that @Calin went into this deal with genuine intention of delivering the servers as agreed to. While this might be a bold statement, it almost seems too obvious, based on the chat messages and promises made to @GoSSDHosting which he ultimately did not keep.

    The actual situation is contrary to some people's opinion, very binary:

    1. The merchant @Calin agreed to render an unspecified amount of servers to @GoSSDHosting for a total of $22,500.00 to be paid through cryptocurrency and PayPal. Clearly, as can be observed, these payments were made. In that sense, @GoSSDHosting has fulfilled his obligations.
    2. For unknown reasons, both parties engaged in smurfing. While usually a practice carried out by criminals, it can also happen for numerous legitimate reasons, like withdrawal limits, or as seems to be the case here, to make sure no issues arise while moving a large sum of money. If the funds in question are tainted, the one who actually committed the crime is @Calin - because as everyone should know: ignorantia juris non excusat.
    3. For unknown reasons, it does seem like @Calin intentionally misrepresented what he was going to do with the funds. Based on the chat messages, it appears as if he was gradually moving the money over to a bank account, which ultimately seems not to have happened, as the total amount is allegedly frozen (???).
    4. It would be nice if the on-chain transactions made to @Calin's wallet were shared, to further evaluate what exactly happened with the money. As a side note to @GoSSDHosting, you should be reporting this incident to Coinbase as soon as possible to get @Calin's account frozen.
    5. There was an explicit agreement that no KYC would need to be provided. Requesting any kind of documentation whatsoever, for either providing the services or returning the money, would clearly be fraud in the inducement.
    6. In any case, @Calin should either provide the services or alternatively return the money, exactly as it was sent, with the exact amounts, through the same channels. Clearly, any movement of funds after @Calin had confirmed that payment was received, does not concern the customer.

    I am happy that there is some reasonable and experienced people in this community (giving a big nod to @MannDude) which have already pointed out the gross flaws in @Calin's representation of the matter.

    1. Providing source of funds is only required for personal accounts. In that case, it means that @Calin has most certainly moved the funds through either a personal Coinbase account or to a personal bank account, or both.
    2. Banks never freeze distinct transactions for extended periods of times, not in Romania, not in India, nowhere in the world. The only reason they might do so is when ordered so through court. Additionally, banks will definitely never return a transaction to anywhere else but the source.
    3. Personal bank accounts get frozen entirely when compliance teams require additional documentation about funds. The only scenario in which the account remains intact is where the funds are (usually within 48 hours) returned to the sender (bounce) (to Coinbase).
    4. Business bank accounts might be required to answer (compliance) questions about their business. They are definitely not (legally) required to share with their bank (or anyone else for that matter) who their customers are, unless ordered so by court.
    5. In many cases, businesses are required to engage in KYC, thus moving the legal responsibility for AML obligations from the bank to the business. The fact @Calin is allegedly forwarding documentation of Customer XYZ to his bank is very concerning - a major privacy violation. Furthermore, it also does not make a lot of sense (when was the last time a business owner had to proof his customer's origin of funds? Absolute bullshit).

    TL,DR: none of what @Calin says makes any sense. The origin of the cryptocurrency he was paid is also irrelevant. At least, I do not see any indication the cryptocurrency wallets involved are on a sanctions list or that any lawful authority has declared the funds to be illicit. The moment it was transfered to @Calin, it turned into his property, no longer being Customer XYZ's property, thus also shifting any responsibility for further handling to nobody else than @Calin - who should either immediately start providing the service he quoted or return the cryptocurrency. Doing otherwise constitutes blatant fraud and should be treated as such.

    @GoSSDHosting hire a local lawyer that speaks English and get him prosecuted. This is not your issue at all, it is on @Calin to return the money. The case is so crystal clear and simple that it should not even take long. It is beyond me how that kid believes he has any right to hold onto that money for even another second.

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @EndlessGravity said: The case is so crystal clear and simple that it should not even take long.

    You might be experienced with crypto, but you're not experienced with international civil law.

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  • EndlessGravityEndlessGravity Member

    @emgh said:

    @EndlessGravity said: The case is so crystal clear and simple that it should not even take long.

    You might be experienced with crypto, but you're not experienced with international civil law.

    Please, enlighten me what is unclear about this case?

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