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Calin iHostART.Com took our $22.5K and scamming us!

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  • @adanforest said:
    who win at least?

    We. Because drama.

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  • @adanforest said:
    who win at least?

    Seems like Calin.

    After the video he posted, even if GoSSD goes for legal route, he will probably be answering way more questions to Indian legal authority than Calin answering to Romanian counterpart.

  • Hi mom!

  • @TimboJones said:
    This is clearly a case of incompetence, not malice.

    As long as @Calin does some insane sale, im sure everyone will forgive and forget this.

  • @stefeman said:

    @TimboJones said:
    This is clearly a case of incompetence, not malice.

    As long as @Calin does some insane sale, im sure everyone will forgive and forget this.

    To be fair, sounds no different than Racknerd

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  • IV been reading this thread and I want to leave. I don't even know why I'm here. I always see hands being thrown between Gossd and calin but I am going to leave.

  • I hope GoSSD will not send any muscles to recuperate the money from Calin. I do not agree with what Calin did, but I also believe in peaceful ways of handling this.

    To clients of iHostArt: don't forget to make backups as soon as possible.

  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member
    edited September 2024

    You know, depending on what illegal services they were planning on running, this may all be for the best.

    Can you think of how much cleaner the internet would be if all hosters in the world just ripped off all their scummy customers running malware and ransomware services?

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  • After reading everything I just can't figure out why @Calin needs to convert crypto -> fiat to buy the servers. Just buy the servers directly with crypto.

    It seems like @Calin is an idiot who does not know how crypto works and has no idea what he is doing,

    OR

    He knew exactly what he was doing. He KNEW that converting crypto -> fiat will trigger extra scrutiny from bank.

    He knows that banks are slow AF in performing any kinds of investigation, usually taking months. And this is just what he wants, so that people can just forget about this, and he can get away with it

    Also, if bank is just suspicious of funds, they would always return the money to where it came from (in this case @Calin's own Coinbase account).

    What kind of bank would return the funds to some random 3rd party (or 4th party in this case) bank account somewhere in the would ? Nope, if returning, a bank would always return the money to where it came from (in this case @Calin's own Coinbase account)

    And I believe that's exactly what he wants. It would take months, but the bank will eventually just return money to his Coinbase account (or deposit to his account in bank), but by that time everyone would have forgotten about this and he would have 22k USD in his bank.

    He knows that @GoSSDHosting is from a 3rd world country with no legal recourse, so he would just wait till everyone forgets, and get away with the money.

    He also tried to pull the same shit with another person (@balramm) from the same country, but to his misfortune Crunchy Daddy @crunchbits stepped in, thinking that @Calin is a naive idiot little boy, and now @Calin had less chance of getting away, as someone from United States is much more likely to take a legal action and succeed than someone from India.

    No wonder he is repeatedly asking Mods to close the thread.

    TL;DR: @Calin is a young naive idiot who does not know what he is doing OR he is a smart con man in making, pretending to be a young naive idiot, so he can get away with the scam.

  • Temptation Island.

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  • tl'dr pls, this thread full of AI summaries lol

  • @sonic said:
    tl'dr pls, this thread full of AI summaries lol

    Honestly, it seems like legal action is their only real option here. We'll just have to wait and see how it unfolds :)

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  • @keon said:

    Also, if bank is just suspicious of funds, they would always return the money to where it came from (in this case @Calin's own Coinbase account).

    This isn't aimed at you. But I keep seeing people say this or similar and it's just not true.

    If a bank thinks the money is suspicious they will not just return it back. They will have AML they have to follow and legally once thye flag the money they wont release it until the proof/investigation is complete.

    Just returning the Money once it gets to the stage it's reported to be at is just not an option, especially with the added mess of the wrong details being provided at th initial stage of the refund.

    Or at least that's how it works in UK, Romania could be completely different so I could be talking absolute rubbish :)

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited September 2024

    @sonic said:
    tl'dr pls, this thread full of AI summaries lol

    From my understanding.

    • Guy wanted to buy servers from GoSSD, a big order.
    • GoSSD was not able to fulfill the order so wanted to resell someone else to do it
    • iHostArt was contacted and Calin agreed to fulfill the order
    • A large sum of money ($20,000+) was sent to Calin in the form of crypto currency and I believe $2,000 via PayPal
    • The large sum of crypto was split into smaller transactions as others pointed out as being a form of 'structuring' and is, uh, 'frowned upon' by financial institutions but may not actually be an issue with crypto. (Not sure if CoinBase gives a damn)
    • It's not clear if these funds were sent to Calin directly from GoSSD's client or if GoSSD's client paid GoSSD, then GoSSD paid iHostArt
    • Calin makes guarantees that there will be no problem, that if any issues occur (but they won't occur) that he'll refund the money.
    • After Calin had received the money into his CoinBase account, he transfers it to his bank account. Was it his personal bank account or the bank he uses for iHostArt's business? Who knows.
    • Bank says, "Woah, wait a minute fella! That's a lot of money! We have to do our due diligence here, by law."
    • This is where things get even more murky.
    • Calin informs his customer (GoSSD) that the bank needs verification of the source of the funds.
    • Calin is provided fake documents.
    • Money is supposedly still 'frozen' and inaccessible to Calin.
    • GoSSD never received a refund in full (supposedly $2,000 PayPal payment got refunded, though?)
    • There is $20,000~ now missing and apparently no one is at fault and it's just a big woopsie and we should just close this thread and stop talking about it.

    What doesn't make sense or is unclear:

    • Why the bank would even be interested in a customer's customer's customer. Calin is the banks customer. The bank received funds from CoinBase. The bank did not receive funds from GoSSD or GoSSD's customer so sending them fake documents from either of those parties as explanation for the funds is entirely insane.
    • There is nothing illegal about paying for servers or infrastructure with crypto. All Calin has to tell his bank is that the transfer from CoinBase to his bank account was to cover the business expense related to a new customer, as he owns a Romanian ISP and the bank should be so happy that a proud and patriotic citizen and young entrepreneur such as himself is investing so much in the country that he loves.
    • I don't believe the 'freezing of funds' has anything to do with GoSSD or their customer. If the bank froze the funds they'd have no knowledge of the stupid structuring of payments via crypto or the private chats and back and forth between Calin / iHostArt and GoSSD. The bank only knows that they received a large deposit from CoinBase. That's it.
    • The bank wouldn't "return" the money to anyone other than the source of it, so I'm confused as to why it was previously said he couldn't return the money because GoSSD or their customer wasn't providing factual documents that the bank needs. The bank would, I assume, only return it to CoinBase or keep it in Calin's account, unfroze, with the correct documents or explanation.

    I think that's the gist of it.

    There is also some super long video released by Calin I haven't watched because I don't believe it'll provide any context or explanations that wasn't already shared in the chatlog screenshots and his own words within this thread earlier.

  • I just want to know what kind of servers were they ? Calin's servers dont really have a very good n/w with Asia

  • ladies and gentlemen

    monero

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  • @MannDude you perfectly sumarize!
    Thats why my oppinion is that @Calin is a scammer, full stop.

    Thanked by 1mustafamw3
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @MannDude wasn’t like 1 minute? Super long :D

  • Any deals or offers here ? This thread is great for marketing

  • @mw said:
    ladies and gentlemen

    monero

    No, gold bars via DPD/Fedex.

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  • sassliksasslik Barred
    edited September 2024

    @Levi said:

    @mw said:
    ladies and gentlemen

    monero

    No, gold bars via DPD/Fedex.

    no, snow from colombia

    Thanked by 1Levi
  • JasonMJasonM Member
    edited September 2024

    Calin shoud start new with a new brand name
    ihostDMCA.ro

    B) o:)

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    @emgh said:
    @MannDude wasn’t like 1 minute? Super long :D

    I never clicked it. Thought he said it was 40 minutes or something, ha. My bad.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited September 2024

    @MannDude said:

    @emgh said:
    @MannDude wasn’t like 1 minute? Super long :D

    I never clicked it. Thought he said it was 40 minutes or something, ha. My bad.

    Ah, I was worried about your attention span there for a second ;)

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  • In Romania if you receive more than 2.5-3K into account - you have to make a proof of your income. Almost all banks I worked with will asks you from where that money comes in. But since this goes insane I might think he used a personal banking account. If it was a business's in a couple of days the fund was automatically refunded. I hope you don’t get it wrong but you should get a lawyer from the beginning, a 300-500 Lei it wasnt a such big deal. Good luck pal!

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  • @zmeu said: Good luck pal!

    :D

  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @zmeu said:
    In Romania if you receive more than 2.5-3K into account - you have to make a proof of your income. Almost all banks I worked with will asks you from where that money comes in. But since this goes insane I might think he used a personal banking account. If it was a business's in a couple of days the fund was automatically refunded. I hope you don’t get it wrong but you should get a lawyer from the beginning, a 300-500 Lei it wasnt a such big deal. Good luck pal!

    Shouldn't he have proof in that it came from coinbase as income from his business?

  • @beanman109 said: Shouldn't he have proof in that it came from coinbase as income from his business?

    indeed there is something fishy.

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  • If you run a Business or a Big tech company you still have to comply with Romanian Law aswell if you have a personal account.

    The alarm are triggered by authorities (eg ANAF) when you reach out in one day or in a single transaction the cap limit of $2.5-3K. Now having a business account you have the option to not comply with them (if they find this trans. suspicious - in most cases they don't but this was an Bitcoin income) and the money are automatically returned in less than 20 working days from where they come from OR the customer it have to comply with our Romanian Law and provide a proof - in this case 'him' itself not a 3rd party person.

    Anyway, is just my opinion but if he had a Coinbase Business Account with an personal banking account then he can face Govt. penalty fee and even worse - jail time for frauds.

    You need a Lawyer, don't (ever) go solo on the bank and finding excuses or lying to them. An hour with a Lawyer it was around 300-500 Lei and it was enough to make this wheel to spin. If you don't signed anything you still have a chance to wash your hands in a matter of time.

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  • so, did @Calin already bought a new car ?or you guys still fighting?

This discussion has been closed.