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Calin iHostART.Com took our $22.5K and scamming us!
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Oh noes!
Calin pulled a @cociu
Is there a screenshot of GoSSD knowing that Calin had KYC? I don't believe there is, but I don't want to go through 20 pages to double check. Saying that GoSSD "was probably very aware" is a huge assumption.
Sure it is "shady". But you're talking about banning a customer for being "shady" when there still has not been any evidence that he did something illegal or that he's trying to launder criminal funds.
Should we also ban anyone looking for hosting that don't require facial scan/passport because that is "shady"?
It’s not a huge assumption. In many places, it’s illegal to help fraud take place due to ignorance to the fact that there’s fraud going on, even if you were never told that there was.
The question, very often, isn’t was xyz aware, it’s should xyz have been aware.
Given that they were talking about KYC, Calin said if there’s any small issue we’ll refund, and then they proceed to structure the payments into small batches, I’d say in A LOT of juristictions GoSSD would be found guilty.
Sure, that’s speculative, but so is most things here.
And your example kind of sucks, because that’s unlike what I’m talking about generally not a crime.
Yes, burn them both! Because some users who, just like all of us, don't have clear and full relevant information and who just love drama - and "guilty" verdicts - feel that @Calin and/or @GoSSDHosting is/are fraudsters, criminals, evil people and who seem to think that ruining the life of someone they dislike is good entertainment and fun.
Just like condemning all romanian providers and suggesting that they are all shady or even scammers while blissfully ignoring in which country the vast majority of internet scammers are.
Just keeping their blathering and cajoling holes shut and waiting patiently for real facts becoming clear like civilized humans would obviously be asking for too much.
Just disgusting.
Please write your sex novel elsewhere
thats kinda hot
... says the person who has a (at least) half nude man as user image ...
Sorry, but I'm not responsible for how and what you use your orifices for, nor do I care. And btw I didn't even mean you this time.
You misunderstood. You're still obligated to pay, just not by the expected deadline.
@mw I think he’s into me
PS @jsg it’s not just any man, it’s the man
LowEndTalk has become truly batshit. What reality would this be ok in?
Why would you accept $20K in crypto (non-custodial), then transfer it to a custodial service and turn it into fiat, and blame the customer?
It's like absolute retards are running amok around here... not only ban, but blacklist from ever coming back here under any new business/brand.
Horrendous.
the Calin Guarantee™
MOARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Honestly, to get serious for a second, that’s in my opinion the biggest argument for his ban.
I’m still not convinced he should be perma banned. I don’t know honestly. But for those that want that, that’s the best argument.
He basically said no KYC, and that he’d refund if there were any issues. He didn’t stand by that promise.
No, bro, he's a scammer, plain and simple.. I'd birth that money. It's $20K, not chump change. He had to have known, and if he hadn't, he kept it for himself. Simple as that.
Ban the POS.
Known what?
That’s basically the one point of the ones calling him a scammer that I agree with by the way.
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This was taken out of context, here it was about whether our crypto account gets blocked like in the past, when there was the old problem with 5500 USD.If we encountered problems with the payment because of us, we would definitely give the money back , it's a big difference
because here reference was made to the problem of 5500 USD
Please don't be misled by just a simple picture, and please watch the video
EDIT:
I'm saying at the benginer of transaction , money need go to our BANK!
This is clearly a case of incompetence, not malice.
No! No! Hell no!
This is LET. We need to act impulsively, judge things emotionally through what each party is saying, then jump to conclusions and resolutions fast, before authorities have completed the case months afterwards. The customer needs their money back now, not months from now. The provider needs the thread closed now, not when time decides to slowly sink it in the annals of the forum.
Meanwhile we enjoy doing detective work, digging deeper into history, up to the family environment where one was educated to find emotional excuses if necessary, all to create a more sophisticated debate if possible. And where facts and logic make no sense within all the PMS, we smear the business to seek simplicity and generalization, while avoiding racism (respecting rules).
One might call all this superficial, but on the contrary: it is quite deep; we are already at page 25 in a popcorn drama. If one does not like it because the emotional impact is too intense, they can abandon LET, or pay a provider tag in cryptocurrency (bilohbucks) to see how it is to work with customers and avoid deadpooling while battling between laws, DMCA, KYC, and even personal greed.
This is LET in a world where everybody is entitled to an opinion, yet only few actually listen.
@Calin but he didn’t want KYC at all, you knew that. Now you demand personal data that basically not even KYC providers would ask for. Can you understand why he might not feel like that’s something you agreed on?
I tend to agree, but then the issue is that @Calin dosen’t seem to recognize his mistake even afterwards.
If he did, he likely would have a plan to solve it by now.
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I was accused several times why I took the money to the bank, if you see the video and the picture, you will see that I announced to the client from the very beginning that I will take the money to the bank because I will buy hardware with this money
Yes, but just because you said that dosen’t mean that he now foregoes his demand to not be KYC’d.
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I am not asking for KYC, bank request this , it's a difference!
What did you want me to do? Tell the bank that I don't want to help this case with information and block the money, I preferred to ask the client for details to help him avoid problems with blocking the money, it's not my fault that the client gave false evidence
Maybe he just wants to look strong and rich in a LET community, when actually he simply does not have the finances to refund the client. Simply put: he can't pay from his pocket while waiting for the bank, because there isn't enough capital in his accounts.
This is just a theory, throwing it into the brainstorm.
He has no contract with the bank, he has a contract with you.
You should have showed the bank your invoice. If that wasn’t enough, you should have asked them to return the money.
If you couldn’t solve that, without his personal info, you should have not offered him hosting. Since he made it clear he didn’t want KYC.
Again, just stop being a judge on a forum, I'm already quite tired with this scandal from the last few days, as I wrote above, this is a problem between two B2B
I'm write a full declaration at page 20 about this
When @Arkas or @DP or any other mods close this thread , I'm want to put at the end of thread the declaration from page 20
The plan was to have bank refund the money and ended up getting it more in red tape. He's waiting for bank to make a move, which he thought was going to happen by now and could take indefinite time.
But I highly doubt he has $20k to float while waiting for this to be resolved so he's likely going to continue to wait on bank response.
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I think you don't know how to read , I said countless times that I wanted to give him the money back and I asked him for details to return the money, but even those details were false , what part from all this don't understand?
Looking at the previous pages in the thread, I asked him for an IBAN and a name, and he was unable to give them!
@emgh