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Calin iHostART.Com took our $22.5K and scamming us!

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @AlbaHost said:

    @emgh said:

    @AlbaHost said:

    @emgh said:

    @AlbaHost said:

    @emgh said:

    @AlbaHost said: Or do you think that Gossd's money are less worth because he's Indian?!

    edited out to not get warned :D

    but you're obviously not very bright, let's leave it at that

    Yeah, coming from you already ignored it, because don't want to fall that low!

    Go challenge your intellect, try not to drool

    I just pointed your nonsense comment above, if that hurted your intellect sorry about it!

    No, you accused me of racism you fattie

    Because based on your comment, i couldn't find any other words on why Gossd can not get the servers even if he paid them, but other members would get them!

    ok albaman

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @xaoc said:

    @emgh said:

    @xaoc said: This thread was started because Calin failed to fulfill his promise, and it is unrelated to any other matters.

    so we can't see the full picture unless I create a new thread about every single shady thing going on here?

    Where does this full picture end? Should we also investigate the types of diapers used by Calin/gosswhat as a baby?

    feel free to

    Thanked by 1xaoc
  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @xvps said:
    EU law: If you include a "force majeure" clause that covers unforeseen financial obstacles caused by a third party in your terms, you can inform your customer of the "force majeure". This will legally free you from fulfilling your part of the agreement until the obstacle is resolved.

    PayPal locked our account.
    Therefore, we are no longer obligated to pay colo fees to our upstream.
    The upstream must not disconnect our servers.

  • 23 Pages of let drama. It's a pleasure to stay here.

    Thanked by 3emgh Marx wolfypro
  • @yoursunny said:

    @xvps said:
    EU law: If you include a "force majeure" clause that covers unforeseen financial obstacles caused by a third party in your terms, you can inform your customer of the "force majeure". This will legally free you from fulfilling your part of the agreement until the obstacle is resolved.

    PayPal locked our account.
    Therefore, we are no longer obligated to pay colo fees to our upstream.
    The upstream must not disconnect our servers.

    TOS is a part of the agreement with your customers, but fell free to ask your upstream to write a clause into the agreement.

    (I think I will take a long break from LET because you can't write anything serious here anymore without it getting drowned in derailing troll posts.)

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited September 2024

    @xvps said:

    @yoursunny said:

    @xvps said:
    EU law: If you include a "force majeure" clause that covers unforeseen financial obstacles caused by a third party in your terms, you can inform your customer of the "force majeure". This will legally free you from fulfilling your part of the agreement until the obstacle is resolved.

    PayPal locked our account.
    Therefore, we are no longer obligated to pay colo fees to our upstream.
    The upstream must not disconnect our servers.

    TOS is a part of the agreement with your customers, but fell free to ask your upstream to write a clause into the agreement.

    (I think I will take a long break from LET because you can't write anything serious here anymore without it getting drowned in derailing troll posts.)

    I mean, we’re 23 pages deep now. I think most points have been made by now.

    Mods likely won’t do anything else until Calin gets new information from the bank, and that could be weeks, months, or never.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @xvps said:

    @yoursunny said:

    @xvps said:
    EU law: If you include a "force majeure" clause that covers unforeseen financial obstacles caused by a third party in your terms, you can inform your customer of the "force majeure". This will legally free you from fulfilling your part of the agreement until the obstacle is resolved.

    PayPal locked our account.
    Therefore, we are no longer obligated to pay colo fees to our upstream.
    The upstream must not disconnect our servers.

    TOS is a part of the agreement with your customers, but fell free to ask your upstream to write a clause into the agreement.

    PayPal locked our account.
    Therefore, we are no longer able to pay transit fees to our upstream, so that servers are disconnected.
    Customers cannot access their servers but we will not refund customers.

    Thanked by 3hyena56 sasslik tentor
  • @yoursunny said:

    @xvps said:

    @yoursunny said:

    @xvps said:
    EU law: If you include a "force majeure" clause that covers unforeseen financial obstacles caused by a third party in your terms, you can inform your customer of the "force majeure". This will legally free you from fulfilling your part of the agreement until the obstacle is resolved.

    PayPal locked our account.
    Therefore, we are no longer obligated to pay colo fees to our upstream.
    The upstream must not disconnect our servers.

    TOS is a part of the agreement with your customers, but fell free to ask your upstream to write a clause into the agreement.

    PayPal locked our account.
    Therefore, we are no longer able to pay transit fees to our upstream, so that servers are disconnected.
    Customers cannot access their servers but we will not refund customers.

    Does PayPal offer the possibility of paying using crypto-squats?

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited September 2024

    @default said:

    @yoursunny said:

    @xvps said:

    @yoursunny said:

    @xvps said:
    EU law: If you include a "force majeure" clause that covers unforeseen financial obstacles caused by a third party in your terms, you can inform your customer of the "force majeure". This will legally free you from fulfilling your part of the agreement until the obstacle is resolved.

    PayPal locked our account.
    Therefore, we are no longer obligated to pay colo fees to our upstream.
    The upstream must not disconnect our servers.

    TOS is a part of the agreement with your customers, but fell free to ask your upstream to write a clause into the agreement.

    PayPal locked our account.
    Therefore, we are no longer able to pay transit fees to our upstream, so that servers are disconnected.
    Customers cannot access their servers but we will not refund customers.

    Does PayPal offer the possibility of paying using crypto-squats?

    No, but on OnlyFans you can pay to recieve them

    Thanked by 1default
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    I have nothing to add and derailing it seems like a quick way to get the thread locked (like Calin wanted lol)

    Therefore, I’m out of here until new information comes up. It was fun while it lasted. Thanks everyone🥰

    Thanked by 1Frameworks
  • BlaZeBlaZe Member, Host Rep

    So after @cociu, @Calin will be remembered for ages to come.

    I should pick this content as a case study for my students in business school.

  • @BlaZe said:
    So after @cociu, @Calin will be remembered for ages to come.

    I should pick this content as a case study for my students in business school.

    Please do so. Society evolves by learning from one another, so we don't repeat the same mistakes in future.

    Thanked by 2emgh BlaZe
  • @emgh said:

    @default said:

    @yoursunny said:

    @xvps said:

    @yoursunny said:

    @xvps said:
    EU law: If you include a "force majeure" clause that covers unforeseen financial obstacles caused by a third party in your terms, you can inform your customer of the "force majeure". This will legally free you from fulfilling your part of the agreement until the obstacle is resolved.

    PayPal locked our account.
    Therefore, we are no longer obligated to pay colo fees to our upstream.
    The upstream must not disconnect our servers.

    TOS is a part of the agreement with your customers, but fell free to ask your upstream to write a clause into the agreement.

    PayPal locked our account.
    Therefore, we are no longer able to pay transit fees to our upstream, so that servers are disconnected.
    Customers cannot access their servers but we will not refund customers.

    Does PayPal offer the possibility of paying using crypto-squats?

    No, but on OnlyFans you can pay to recieve them

    Did someone say OnlyFans? You can have my money!

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad
    edited September 2024

    Oh boy 23 pages of.......

    I asked Chat GPT to run a summary of all pages, he replayed: Rather let's reinvent the wheel :D

    Thanked by 3emgh sasslik tentor
  • @GoSSDHosting said: I remember when we were getting quotes for this order, many warned me not to go with Calin as he would steal the funds. But all other providers backed out, so I had no other option.

    :)

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • @host_c said:
    Oh boy 23 pages of.......

    Thanked by 1host_c
  • LeviLevi Member
    edited September 2024

    Please stir the drama pot once more. Shake it, so it will be sweet again.

    @GoSSDHosting and @Calin any news?

    Questions for gossd:

    • Are you on the run from your client?
    • How do you feel loosing so much money?
    • Do you have more money?
    • Did you thought that maybe buying from calin AGAIN would yeld another results? Try it.
    • What's the BTC price nowadays?

    Question for calin:

    • How's hanging?
    • Do you plan to buy audi quatro TDI?
    • If DDoS incidents intensify due to scam, what do you plan to do?
    • Did you had a good summer?
    Thanked by 1Malin
  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @sasslik said:

    @emgh said:

    @default said:
    Does PayPal offer the possibility of paying using crypto-squats?

    No, but on OnlyFans you can pay to recieve them

    Did someone say OnlyFans? You can have my money!

    Dear customer

    We process push-up / squat payments in-house, not through third-party.
    We don't have fancy systems like incogpay, just an FTP upload link.

    We don't have money transmitter licenses so we cannot provide payment processing service to others.
    OnlyFans is owned by cociu perfume company and unrelated to us.

    Thanked by 1sasslik
  • msattmsatt Member, Host Rep

    @default said: The money is at iHostArt.

    Is it ?
    I thought it was frozen by the bank and likely marked as suspect. Where the 'money' ends up is not certain.

    Thanked by 3emgh skorous tentor
  • armandorgarmandorg Member, Host Rep

    @stefeman said:
    Chatgpt summary

    The writer, GoSSDHosting, claims they were scammed by Calin from iHostART.com after paying $22,500 in cryptocurrency for bulk dedicated servers. The deal involved reselling servers for a client in a DMCA-ignored region. GoSSDHosting transferred the payment in parts, with $2,000 via PayPal and the rest in crypto. Calin initially confirmed receipt of the funds but later claimed that a bank blocked the transaction, requesting proof of the source of the funds.

    Despite providing necessary documents, Calin delayed resolving the issue, eventually offering excuses, including invalid IBAN details, domestic vs. international transfer confusion, and a name mismatch. Although Calin refunded $2,000 via PayPal, GoSSDHosting has been waiting for the rest of the refund for nearly two months and believes Calin is now avoiding them, making excuses, and blaming them for the situation. The writer expresses regret, as they were warned about Calin but had no other provider options.

    How didn't i think of this! Copy and pasting long articles and have ChatGPT summarize everything for me in short paragraphs.. Genious!

    I read the whole thing...

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @MannDude said:
    Seems like the only verification documents the bank has received was the fake ones that original buyer supplied, who is neither a customer of the bank or a customer of the bank's customer (Calin). I somehow doubt that a bank would be interested in the source that far down the chain. Calin has a business. He has a customer, who is a business (GoSSD). There was a business transaction that in itself is totally legit between GoSSD and Calin. The bank doesn't have knowledge of the structuring of small crypto payments, or any of that. The bank only knows it received 20,000 Eur from CoinBase, and wants to know why. They think it's odd. Should be a simple, "I run a business, this is my proof. My customer is a business, here is there business information. These funds are to fulfill an order that they have placed."

    I'd assume any concern the bank may have beyond their direct customer and the source of funds (his direct customer) wouldn't be investigated by the bank and would then be a law enforcement matter, but I don't know what reach banks have when it comes to such concerns.

    Then again, I'm just a casual observer to this thread. Maybe it was just a big woopsie and everyone will be friends in the end.

    I might be wrong but I'm not so sure that @GoSSDHosting is both the customer and the party who transferred crypto-"currency". I'm under the impression (again, I may be wrong) that gossd is the customer but their customer is the one who transferred the crypto-"currency". If that is the case or if there is anything that isn't or doesn't look 100% clean and proper it wouldn't be surprising at all if a bank flagged it as suspicious.

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  • @msatt said: Is it ?
    I thought it was frozen by the bank and likely marked as suspect. Where the 'money' ends up is not certain.

    Well, the crypto he got paid with was with him. What he did with it later is solely on him.
    Wouldn't it be funny if he tried to convert earnings from several clients, not just this one?

    "Sorry, guys, I did something with the crypto I got from you for the service I didn't deliver, and now the bank froze my funds, so there won't be either a service or a refund."

    Thanked by 1default
  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @emgh said:
    The only other possible reason for a ban would be to protect the members of the forum. If a member buys a VPS from Calin, wouldn’t they recieve it? I think they will

    I did - and all in all I'm happy enough with the deal I got (a normal promo) that just a week ago I paid to keep it. No regrets so far.

    Btw, the only good solution to end dcma related schemes is to have the country of origin understand that their laws and agencies mean nothing to/in other countries. The problem isn't an irritating law. The problem is that a certain country seriously thinks and acts like it's the king and the policeman of almost the whole world - with "almost" being the only detail that irritates them.
    I'm glad and grateful that now there are two players on the field who say "Nyet!" to the bully.

  • "Banks are very cautious about crypto payments, and I really don't understand why @Calin would accept large crypto payments from clients or why the clients would receive crypto from their clients. Crypto is just digital money, with nothing backing it except 'trust.' Technically, banks will audit the funds before you receive them from your crypto exchange. Since we know that many people use crypto as a means for money laundering, thorough verification is essential."

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  • @yoursunny said:

    @sasslik said:

    @emgh said:

    @default said:
    Does PayPal offer the possibility of paying using crypto-squats?

    No, but on OnlyFans you can pay to recieve them

    Did someone say OnlyFans? You can have my money!

    Dear customer

    We process push-up / squat payments in-house, not through third-party.
    We don't have fancy systems like incogpay, just an FTP upload link.

    We don't have money transmitter licenses so we cannot provide payment processing service to others.
    OnlyFans is owned by cociu perfume company and unrelated to us.

    Everything fits except Romanians racks. They kinda keep stealing too much money with wallet, but thank you for the offer.

    Have a nice day!

  • @hezekiahshare said:
    Crypto is just digital money, with nothing backing it except 'trust.'

    literally every currency is backed by trust of the government that issues it

    Thanked by 1tentor
  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @mw said:

    @hezekiahshare said:
    Crypto is just digital money, with nothing backing it except 'trust.'

    literally every currency is backed by trust of the government that issues it

    Squats are backed by the oversized muscles that pump them.

  • @Mumbly said:

    @msatt said: Is it ?
    I thought it was frozen by the bank and likely marked as suspect. Where the 'money' ends up is not certain.

    Well, the crypto he got paid with was with him. What he did with it later is solely on him.
    Wouldn't it be funny if he tried to convert earnings from several clients, not just this one?

    "Sorry, guys, I did something with the crypto I got from you for the service I didn't deliver, and now the bank froze my funds, so there won't be either a service or a refund."

    You, and some others, keep repeating this, but if the crypto is dirty, smeared with tomato juice, for example, it is worthless. So, it isn't as binary as you think it is.

  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited September 2024

    @M66B said: You, and some others, keep repeating this, but if the crypto is dirty, smeared with tomato juice, for example, it is worthless. So, it isn't as binary as you think it is.

    The reason this keeps repeating is because of people like you who blame the client who paid without issue (crypto was in Calin's wallet, no one is touching it - just as they agreed), instead of the person who messed up his personal transactions between his own accounts and refuses to take accountability.

    No matter what argument is used, you deny the fact that frozen money was Calin's as he made a transaction from crypto to his bank that caused the funds to be frozen. He's the one who needs to prove source of this money to his bank, not people who paid him in crypto.
    Not to mention that he explicitly said to the client that KYC isn't needed and that if something went wrong, he would refund the money. This turned out to be a blatant lie.

    What you’re doing here is justifying a scam that paves the way for Calin to get away without refunding money to the person he’s about to screw over for 20k and that just sucks.

  • @M66B said:
    So, it isn't as binary as you think it is.

    I think it is. While everyone is going back and forth about crypto being this or that and why someone using it per se is a criminal and so on I'd rather look at the timeline and the thing that really matters:

    @Calin entered an agreement/contract willingly without knowing about the customer or the origin of that large amount.
    He knowingly admitted BEFORE the transfer to not needing that information nor caring about it.
    He even guarantued, that it would not matter or else he'd be responsible for a refund.

    The other side fulfilled their part of the deal. @Calin does not keep his end of the bargain, despite having promised otherwise.
    End of story. Binary.

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