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Calin iHostART.Com took our $22.5K and scamming us!
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@Calin - you are not scammer. You simply should have refunded the client using crypto, the same way he paid.
Now you just need to explain the whole story to the bank. Likely they will understand.
Where is my popcorn
This depends on the contract.
When we post an offer that accepts Bitcoin, we specify that refunds can only go to buyer's PayPal or CashApp account.
It's because we accept Bitcoin in PayPal or CashApp account, and transferring to other apps would cost very high fees.
so next time a provider accepts crypto it must be on the condition that service will be provisioned only after he can successfully convert into cash
DMCA ignored isn't illegal worldwide.
@Calin : Find upstreams that accept crypto. Could have avoided this by seeking upstreams and partners that accept the same payment types as yourself...
Just keep crypto as crypto. Find a hardware provider that will accept it to purchase hardware. Keeps Coinbase from making a killing on what I assume is a high fee for converting to cash (fee) then transfer to bank (fee).
Btw, argument “money is frozen, calin can’t refund” is nonsense.
yeah... if a provider doesn't refunds nor provides goods and services then he indeed is scammer. He can sell his assets/servers/entire company/take new loan whatever, but refund.
yikes
Since Banks froze the amount on account of suspicion regarding the source, not even Calin has any control over it now. Those amount probably will be confiscated after certain period due to lack of proper evidence.
As for @Calin I would say this. Hire a translator for you sincce you're dealing with overseas customers and English isn't your forte. This will prevent many misunderstanding from both the client and your part.
This surely doesn't build confidence in iHostart for my future purchases.
A putler-lover can't judge normal people. You can't be pro-murder and also claim you have morals. See yourself out, nazi.
It must be one hell of a political blog if it costs 22.5K of hardware to host.
If there is anything to be learned from reading this thread, it's that withdrawing crypto to a bank account/converting crypto to fiat is an extremely bad idea.
@Calin, be aware that if you refund money that the bank has blocked by law, you risk being charged with money laundering.
Shady dude -> crypto -> crypto -> bank | invoice -> refund | PayPal -> shady dude.
Of course “next week”
It is Monday! Banks open on Monday.
Now let's see what future brings after @Calin talks to bank representatives face to face.
And here it is, the massive derail. Stop it. Keep topic on point!
What a liar @Calin is!
You claim you're "waiting for our reply"? I started this post because you weren’t replying to our messages! We’ve been chasing you for weeks, and we’re still waiting for you to address the issue.
It’s almost laughable how hard you’re trying to paint yourself as the innocent party. Now you’re making up lies about bank statements, our client, and claiming I deleted chat messages? Not a single word was deleted on our end. You must be the one trying to manipulate the narrative to look innocent here.
You’re running away from accountability, Calin. Stop making excuses and deal with the $20,000 you owe us!
how's your "fruits and vegetables" client responding to this?
Did you already refund your Client?
@Calin if you accept crypto it is your own fault if you can't deliver what YOUR! Bank needs to release the money.
If you need documents from your customer for this, you should have thought about it beforehand! I, for one, would not be prepared to provide such evidence retrospectively.
For business 22k is peanuts. Though, reputation damage is more on the line...
Gossd (verb)
Pronunciation: /ɡɒst/
Definition:
When you attempt to purchase items anonymously using cryptocurrency, but the unscrupulous seller entrusts the transaction to unreliable intermediaries. As a result, you lose both the items and the cryptocurrency, and are forced into the spotlight to provide identification and other personal information.
Example Sentences:
Person 1: “I’m gonna buy some DMCA-ignored servers anonymously for my totally legal fruits and vegetable store.”
Person 2: “Sounds cool, but make sure you don’t get Gossd.”
"Calin iHostART.Com deleted our server without notice!"
"fruits and vegetables"
This remind me of another provider that just got yonk the provider tag lol
The smell of Romanian perfume on a Monday morning..
The involucration is neigh.
Umm, it's not that big...
yo don’t give him ideas 🤨
This funny situation reminds me of Evoshosting—I spent quite a lot of popcorn on their fake evidence. In the Evoshosting topic, someone mentioned the resemblance between Calin and Evos, and now I can confirm that’s true.
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From now on, it seems like buyers will need to be ready to prove their income just to avoid getting scammed. It's ridiculous, but also pretty hilarious. ˆ_ˆ
In Calin’s arguments, there are a lot of fallacies that sound very convincing. For example, he says that since he has many customers and he doesn’t scam them, he must not be a scammer. He rambles about other issues, blames the victims, and even accuses them of using dirty money, so in the end, he doesn’t have to refund them because refunding would be supporting crime...