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Calin iHostART.Com took our $22.5K and scamming us!

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  • @xieroxxx said:

    @itachikonoha said:

    @xieroxxx said:

    @stefeman said:
    Can someone summarize the current situation and the best things so far on this thread? @yoursunny @emgh anyone?

    -Calin took the money
    -Customer didnt get services
    -Calin blames the bank for freezing the funds after he tried to convert the crypto to $$
    -Customer sits without money or services, since calin dont care and is a field trip in the mountains

    GoSSD is the middle man.

    The original customer on behalf of whom goSSD with an intention to take his cut is sitting with nothing.

    Since goSSD is the one who was paid by the original buyer and calin is never a party to this transaction; in this aspect, GoSSD has a bigger role to fil morally and legally to the original owner (using the same logic as above).

    Yet, there is no proof about him not refunding his customer, there is no complaints from his customer or anything. I bet GoSSD have his situation under control. That doesnt change the fact that Calin scammed goSSD, and is spending time on a field-trip instead of gathering the funds he need to perform the refund, or deploy the services he got paid for.

    It is not the first time Calin pulls such a scam. Last time he got VERY lucky when crunchyboy took over the debt and delivered the services for him.

    If GoSSD did deliver, then logical flow could have been.... "Since Calin did not deliver as promised, I had to go to x,y,z provider and buy it with my own as moral obligation to my own customer. It's time Calin should keep his end of the bargain and refund asap."

    This part is what i feel missing here.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • perfect sunday

  • Weird part in this all process .... Bank asking its Client's Client's Client for a Bank Statement & holding their money as Ransom.

    Like @xieroxxx mentioned - If Calin would have said that these funds are income to him for the services he is going to deliver to his client and submit relevant invoices, I dont see any reason why Bank would ask for its Client's Bank Statement, Salary Slip, House Property Papers, Mom/Dad's Will.... Bla Bla Bla...

    Just because his Bank fcked up, he cannot deny refund to his client.

    Thanked by 2commercial fendix
  • @itachikonoha said:

    @xieroxxx said:

    @itachikonoha said:

    @xieroxxx said:

    @stefeman said:
    Can someone summarize the current situation and the best things so far on this thread? @yoursunny @emgh anyone?

    -Calin took the money
    -Customer didnt get services
    -Calin blames the bank for freezing the funds after he tried to convert the crypto to $$
    -Customer sits without money or services, since calin dont care and is a field trip in the mountains

    GoSSD is the middle man.

    The original customer on behalf of whom goSSD with an intention to take his cut is sitting with nothing.

    Since goSSD is the one who was paid by the original buyer and calin is never a party to this transaction; in this aspect, GoSSD has a bigger role to fil morally and legally to the original owner (using the same logic as above).

    Yet, there is no proof about him not refunding his customer, there is no complaints from his customer or anything. I bet GoSSD have his situation under control. That doesnt change the fact that Calin scammed goSSD, and is spending time on a field-trip instead of gathering the funds he need to perform the refund, or deploy the services he got paid for.

    It is not the first time Calin pulls such a scam. Last time he got VERY lucky when crunchyboy took over the debt and delivered the services for him.

    If GoSSD did deliver, then logical flow could have been.... "Since Calin did not deliver as promised, I had to go to x,y,z provider and buy it with my own as moral obligation to my own customer. It's time Calin should keep his end of the bargain and refund asap."

    This part is what i feel missing here.

    Calin got paid in full for the services, but did not deliver. There are nothing more to discuss really. He scammed GoSSD, simple as that. What happends to the funds after Calin recieved them, confirmed that they are recieved, is Calins problem. GoSSD paid for something Calin cant deliver.

    IF (and that is a BIG IF) the funds now are actually frozen at some bank, Calin should be calling family / friends / contacts to gather funds to make the refund, or even sell some hardware, to get the refund going. Calins personal banking problems makes GoSSD a victim here. Instead Calin is on a field-trip in the mountains having a good time right now.

  • BlaZeBlaZe Member, Host Rep

    @Mumbly said:
    For now, it seems like he’s blaming the buyer, even though he’s the one who made the transaction from crypto to his bank, which is not the buyer’s concern.

    This. Perfect.

  • BullethostBullethost Member, Host Rep

    What a mess this is boys. At this point it will be very hard to convince the bank to release the funds, also another huge mess up is the individual coinbase account and to be honest I don't really know how you would get out of that additional mess, there will be probably an external investigation.

    I haven't dealt with Calin nor op but from what I've seen it looks like Calin cares for his business and is willing to fix this.

    Anyways, here with the big bucket.

  • Payment received as per method specified. Blockchain is irrefutable proof. Funds were deposited to his wallet. No services rendered and no return of funds.

    He made a contract and violated it.

    Thanked by 2commercial yoursunny
  • techdragontechdragon Member
    edited September 2024

    @Bullethost said:
    What a mess this is boys. At this point it will be very hard to convince the bank to release the funds, also another huge mess up is the individual coinbase account and to be honest I don't really know how you would get out of that additional mess, there will be probably an external investigation.

    I haven't dealt with Calin nor op but from what I've seen it looks like Calin cares for his business and is willing to fix this.

    Anyways, here with the big bucket.

    He's still shown no proof that he's actually being asked for any documentation. He could be flipping their cash for all anyone knows.

    He could always reverse the transaction to his exchange and may lose a bit on exchange but then he could try to cash out in other ways. Or ask business partners to help. Also, there are timelines on when a bank must honour or refuse a transfer - so many of us can see through a lot of the smokes and mirrors here. Just doesn't add up at all.

  • Hello all,first of all, I don't know where this conspiracy theory with the personal account came from, everything was done and is done by the company, I never once tried to do tax evasion, actually I have no way, the tax authorities made me many checks over time, because I have some fans in Romania who have reported me several times, everything is fine with me and I have all the taxes paid up to date. I don't understand why false assumptions are made about this

    I'm paid over 1.400 euro just on taxes for last 3 months payments[of the accounting balance sheet] (June,May,April). This ''tax evasion" without any proof just make me very angry about this subject.

    Regarding the return of the money, as I said above, at one point the bank wanted to offer the money back to @GoodHosting ,( the money to be returned back based on the evidence he gave them,the bank statements).BUT @GoSSDHosting he was not able to give a correct name , what should I do in this situation? I tried to solve the problem and he was not even able to give a correct name, every time when I'm ask him names or company details what make this crypto transaction he say "individual name"

  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @Calin said:
    Hello all,first of all, I don't know where this conspiracy theory with the personal account came from, everything was done and is done by the company, I never once tried to do tax evasion, actually I have no way, the tax authorities made me many checks over time, because I have some fans in Romania who have reported me several times, everything is fine with me and I have all the taxes paid up to date. I don't understand why false assumptions are made about this

    I'm paid over 1.400 euro just on taxes for last 3 months payments[of the accounting balance sheet] (June,May,April). This ''tax evasion" without any proof just make me very angry about this subject.

    Regarding the return of the money, as I said above, at one point the bank wanted to offer the money back to @GoodHosting ,( the money to be returned back based on the evidence he gave them,the bank statements).BUT @GoSSDHosting he was not able to give a correct name , what should I do in this situation? I tried to solve the problem and he was not even able to give a correct name, every time when I'm ask him names or company details what make this crypto transaction he say "individual name"

    regards

  • AndruAndru Member
    edited September 2024

    @Calin You are still not intelligent! 1400 euro is clear tax invasion!

  • techdragontechdragon Member
    edited September 2024

    @Calin said:
    Hello all,first of all, I don't know where this conspiracy theory with the personal account came from, everything was done and is done by the company, I never once tried to do tax evasion, actually I have no way, the tax authorities made me many checks over time, because I have some fans in Romania who have reported me several times, everything is fine with me and I have all the taxes paid up to date. I don't understand why false assumptions are made about this

    I'm paid over 1.400 euro just on taxes for last 3 months payments[of the accounting balance sheet] (June,May,April). This ''tax evasion" without any proof just make me very angry about this subject.

    Regarding the return of the money, as I said above, at one point the bank wanted to offer the money back to @GoodHosting ,( the money to be returned back based on the evidence he gave them,the bank statements).BUT @GoSSDHosting he was not able to give a correct name , what should I do in this situation? I tried to solve the problem and he was not even able to give a correct name, every time when I'm ask him names or company details what make this crypto transaction he say "individual name"

    You said the bank would return to the customer? Didn't you get it in crypto, convert it then transfer it out as EUR?

    The bank will never return funds to anywhere but the source. So if he sent it crypto, he isn't the source of the funds. The exchange you cashed out on is. They would return it to them or post it to your account.

    Exchanges can sometimes ask for proof of funds on received transactions if you're trying to convert to regulated currencies but this hasn't been mentioned already by you.

    It's not the account of events you have given.

    Is the real reason you refunded the PayPal payment because it could be disputed but the crypto payments couldn't be?

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • xieroxxxxieroxxx Member
    edited September 2024

    @Calin said:
    Hello all,first of all, I don't know where this conspiracy theory with the personal account came from, everything was done and is done by the company, I never once tried to do tax evasion, actually I have no way, the tax authorities made me many checks over time, because I have some fans in Romania who have reported me several times, everything is fine with me and I have all the taxes paid up to date. I don't understand why false assumptions are made about this

    I'm paid over 1.400 euro just on taxes for last 3 months payments[of the accounting balance sheet] (June,May,April). This ''tax evasion" without any proof just make me very angry about this subject.

    Regarding the return of the money, as I said above, at one point the bank wanted to offer the money back to @GoodHosting ,( the money to be returned back based on the evidence he gave them,the bank statements).BUT @GoSSDHosting he was not able to give a correct name , what should I do in this situation? I tried to solve the problem and he was not even able to give a correct name, every time when I'm ask him names or company details what make this crypto transaction he say "individual name"

    Does not change the fact that you recieved payment in full, and have not delivered services, or provided a refund. You should be asking friends / family / contacts to help you out, or even sell off some hardware to cover your debt, and handle your personal issues with your bank yourself.

    Going on a mountain trip, posting videos about that, while this is ongoing, is kinda impressive. #gogo18yearoldbusinessowner

    All of this is just a freakshow of excuses to buy yourself time at the moment.

    Thanked by 1techdragon
  • @Andru said: @Calin You are still not intelligent! 1400 euro is clear tax invasion!

    >

    I thing you are just retarded , and I'm ignore you , I'm view you name , you are from Romania? Please contact ANAF to control my company , I'm very happy

  • @Calin said:

    @Andru said: @Calin You are still not intelligent! 1400 euro is clear tax invasion!

    >

    I thing you are just retarded , and I'm ignore you , I'm view you name , you are from Romania? Please contact ANAF to control my company , I'm very happy

    The only retarded one here is you, Calin.
    Refund your customer. The bank issues is YOUR problem, and NOT GoSSD. Deliver serices, or refund, asap. Stop stalling for time

    Thanked by 1BlaZe
  • AndruAndru Member
    edited September 2024

    @Calin said:

    @Andru said: @Calin You are still not intelligent! 1400 euro is clear tax invasion!

    >

    I thing you are just retarded , and I'm ignore you , I'm view you name , you are from Romania? Please contact ANAF to control my company , I'm very happy

    The retard between us is clearly you... you are just a scammer! Are you still using nulled WHMCS ? Are you still trying to buy customer base leak from another provider ? Are you still sell SWAP as RAM ? And more ...
    Public reviews: https://www.trustpilot.com/review/ihostart.com

  • BullethostBullethost Member, Host Rep
    edited September 2024

    This is actually easy to solve, I don't know why you guys are going back and forth blaming each other. Forget about the ego and passing the ball to each other, forget who said what and just have a friendly conversation and resolve it.

    @GoSSDHosting just provides the correct bank details for the refund (Incase a refund will be made and you decide not to go with the deal)
    @Calin refunds the payment from his own funds if he has enough to do that, if not the GoSSD cooperates in every possible way to get this resolved since it's in your best interest and end of story.

    If you decide to go on with the deal then go with it and that's it.

    Also Calin should have just said he received this money from the services he offers as a company and show the invoices to the bank and that's it, I can almost guaranteed the funds would be released in the same day.

    I had a similar situation with stuck crypto payouts before and being honest with your bank is the best way to go about this since they already know the origin of the funds.

    With all that said in my eyes you are both at fault, quit blaming each other and handle the business.

  • A lot of people say here that I do tax evasion, when in fact it is the opposite,
    When I'm ask @GoSSDHosting for a company name for this bank statements he just say every time "Individual persons" , seriously now...

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  • @Calin said:
    A lot of people say here that I do tax evasion, when in fact it is the opposite,
    When I'm ask @GoSSDHosting for a company name for this bank statements he just say every time "Individual persons" , seriously now...

    This is 100% irrelevant. You got paid in full. Deliver the services or refund him!

    Thanked by 1techdragon
  • @Calin said:
    A lot of people say here that I do tax evasion, when in fact it is the opposite,
    When I'm ask @GoSSDHosting for a company name for this bank statements he just say every time "Individual persons" , seriously now...

    It means they are trading as a private individual and aren't registered as a business. A lot of your clients won't be 'companies'.

    Are you serious?

    Thanked by 1Cappone
  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @AlbaHost said:

    @Malin said:
    There is a thin line when it comes to DMCA. There is DMCA resistant (false reports from competition) / free speech and there is DMCA ignore (illegal stuff). One should not justify banning the other, however, hosts should understand the difference.

    Actually i cited DMCA things, as based on many of them here ignore as per their words. I am not for any bann nor do i really care about what or how they run their business.

    Port 25 permanently open!

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  • techdragontechdragon Member
    edited September 2024

    You don't need a company name to send the money on PayPal, just an email address.

    How many more excuses?

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @xieroxxx said:
    Going on a mountain trip, posting videos about that, while this is ongoing, is kinda impressive. #gogo18yearoldbusinessowner

    It's weekend.
    Calin deserves to rest.
    Company is on fire is irrelevant.

    Thanked by 1equalz
  • @techdragon said: You don't need a company name to send the money on PayPal

    Paypal it's a payment processor not a bank , you wrong here , for deposit money to a Paypal account or to pay from a Paypal account you need to put a BANK CARD! Visa or master etc...

  • @Calin said:

    @techdragon said: You don't need a company name to send the money on PayPal

    Paypal it's a payment processor not a bank , you wrong here , for deposit money to a Paypal account or to pay from a Paypal account you need to put a BANK CARD! Visa or master etc...

    No, you dont need a card to do that. You can wire money without a card.

  • xHostsxHosts Member, Patron Provider

    @Calin said:
    A lot of people say here that I do tax evasion, when in fact it is the opposite,
    When I'm ask @GoSSDHosting for a company name for this bank statements he just say every time "Individual persons" , seriously now...

    In some places around the world this is not illegal either, its known as sole trader and as long as you have told the tax office you are a sole trader, supply the information they request you are free to trade in your own name, you do not need a business name

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited September 2024

    Way too many hobby wannabe judges here. And the less they actually know the harsher their "convictions" are. Quite a few of them are not even in the EU, let alone in Romania, and know very little about the relevant facts and factors - but hey, playing wannabe hobby judge on LET is free!

    Just one small hint as an example: "party A had paid and party B seems to have received the payment, so party B is guilty and must deliver, period!" sounds simple and hence may lead to clueless wannabe hobby judges convicting party B.
    Actually however things are not that simple. One important question, for instance is proper payment in good faith and in the context of a business agreement (e.g. a contract). If what @Calin asserts and which seems credible, is true (multiple people or companies transferring the money and repeatedly slithering or simply refusing to provide documents required, etc.) the agreement itself is in question and demands that would be justified in a properly implemented agreement, likely are not justified.

    There are quite a few other questions and issues as well, e.g. why @GoSSDHosting didn't agree on a commission with @Calin and tell their customer to buy directly from Calin. So, it seems that they actually wanted that constellation.

    Another very major point is the assumption that the end customer had to pay Calin, when, according to what we were told so far, GoSSDHosting was Calin's customer. Getting paid by the end customer was their problem, not Calin's. Similarly why should Calin be supposed to invoice the end customer?

    I also suggest to note that it's not as simple as "B has paid, so A either has to deliver or to refund", because payment for a service/deal/contract is more complex; for instance the method of payment must not put an extra burden on one party and also the relevant regulations of both sides/countries must be obeyed.

    So, I stayed out of it. Because it's not as simple a constellation as some feel and we simply do not have enough information to come to a solid conclusion, let alone a base for convicting any party (or demanding that they be thrown out from LET).

    And btw, dragging @crunchbits into this was one of the moves of some wannabe hobby judges that turned this whole thing into a pig pit. Just disgusting! Just like more than a few commenters here.

    Thanked by 1Janevski
  • CalinCalin Member
    edited September 2024

    @xHosts said: long as you have told the tax office you are a sole trader, supply

    Again wrong , when I'm ask GOSSDHosting about this he say it's a company with millions of actives and that it's cause why it's on Individual person , you understand? Don't have any logically

    What I'm make with red line it's customer go again customer to ask another bank statement , and I'm say to him to STOP this and give me clary details no every time just new things

  • xHostsxHosts Member, Patron Provider

    @Calin said:

    @xHosts said: long as you have told the tax office you are a sole trader, supply

    Again wrong , when I'm ask GOSSDHosting about this he say it's a company with millions of actives and that it's cause why it's on Individual person , you understand? Don't have any logically

    Have I said it applies to them? No

    I have stated a possible and how things are different in different countries around tax and how people are allowed to trade.

    Maybe you need to quit the aim for a quick earner, stop and look at the possible outcome of big transactions before jumping in then playing the victim every time like some immature child when they are found out

  • @Calin said:

    @xHosts said: long as you have told the tax office you are a sole trader, supply

    Again wrong , when I'm ask GOSSDHosting about this he say it's a company with millions of actives and that it's cause why it's on Individual person , you understand? Don't have any logically

    What I'm make with red line it's customer go again customer to ask another bank statement , and I'm say to him to STOP this and give me clary details no every time just new things

    You idiot, you recieved the money to your crypto wallet. Is your job how to exchange to FIAT, not your customer(s).
    Lets assume, that you have in your wallet crypto from 100 customers, when you exchange to fiat, you ask 100 customers to make the bank statement ?

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