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Calin iHostART.Com took our $22.5K and scamming us!
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Because you may be in trouble for money laundering charges and theft of large sum. Customers has doubts that you may flee, skidadle like good old ciouciu
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Hello , because the transaction was made in crypto, the first time the bank only asked for a simple invoice, but because the client was from outside the European Union and (because that invoice looks like it was made by a 10-year-old child) they refused and only asked a simple account statement, to see where the money is from, to avoid money laundering, sale of strange things on the Internet, theft of money, etc.
Bank ask me more questions, for example from what country are the customer , if in the past i 'm have more customers what accept crypto , i'f i'm have a contract with this customer , for what usage this customer the servers etc....
When I asked @GoSSDHosting account statement he start refuse give me , i'm waiting aprox. 1 week for this thing,instead of giving a clear account statement, he gave 2 with some information that had no connection, as I said before, on one of them it says purchase of "vegetables and fruits", I also wrote this at the beginning of the thread, and @GoSSDHosting still refuse to answer , why it's write this thing to a CRYPTO payment about servers and tehnologicaly things
This amount is my lifetime earning from my Hosting Company.
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Wrong , this should not have happened if the client cooperated with us and only gave some simple information to solve the payment problem, from what I understood , @HostSlick meet same problem with him , that it avoids KYC, and it only reinforces this
The bank was more than normal at one point in time to give the money back with only one condition, the money to go into the account of the first bank where I gave the account statement for the first time , and again @GoSSDHosting give fake details for send this transaction , i'm request him very clary details
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I really tried to help this client, but every time I asked him for some simple details, he just ignored them and because of that the money ended up in this situation
OP or your buyer has actually nothing to do.
you got money in your crypto wallet. transaction completed. From their on what do you do about that money -- make a bank transfer to your bank, pay from your crypto wallet to third party, etc. is your decision/choice. OP/Buyer has paid you in 100%, you agreed you have got 100% in crypto. Now you convert that crypto to fiat/gold/diamonds/shares anything the buyer is not concerned if it gets blocked after converting the crypto to fiat in bank. The deal is done. Either you have to refund it or provide server. Why would OP will mess with your stuff (bank, which is a third party). And if OP is so much concerned about their crypto, why OP fails to provide details whatever Calin's bank asked (though that's not actuallya OPs responsiblity, but still they should imply if they are concerned about money or server)
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we have clients who have offered much larger sums in crypto, even 40,000+ USD and we have collaborated with them very clearly without any problem , it is not my fault because @GoSSDHosting was unable to provide a simple PDF with a bank statement
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Don't get me wrong, but when it's my fault I take it, for example in the case of the past transaction of 5,500 USD where it was 100% my fault, here in the problem with @GoSSDHosting it's not my fault
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Bank request us this , I can't deal with a bank , with that money we needed purchase hardware
Let's hope that I will receive an answer on Monday and I will try to find a solution regarding this matter
Your client paid you, and you recieved the funds in full. The rest is not your clients problem. He paid for a service you cant deliver. Then refund him. Its that simple. If you dont have funds to refund while you resolve YOUR bank issues, Ask your mum.
Did you read the thread >? Which part of I tried to give him a refund and he was unable to give some simple refund details, don't you understand?
Again ,i'm apreciate if @Mods possible contact me in PM, to send they details what send me the customer , just for understand the real situation of problem , because a lot of things don't combine, maybe to make a group with @GoSSDHosting in same time , maybe helped for explain me more thing what refuse lot of time to answer me on telegram / whatsapp , just for end this story!
I won't be blaming @Calin for this one (I don't know about the previous issue) for the following reasons:
If there is suspicion of money laundering, then it doesn't need to be a specific x, y, z amount rather if the smaller amounts in series crosses the threshold, then also it may trigger suspicion (either automated or manual). Even if it doesn't trigger in automated way, the banks can freeze the amount at their own discretion. @Calin can't do anything about it because that will be out of his control.
Banks may ask for source of the money of the person who did the transfer. Is that person obligated to provide? Nope. But repercussion of this will be, those crypto amount won't be converted in to real money.
and here comes the crux of the matter. Crypto is not money. It's just a medium via which you can transfer the buying power from one person to another. If it does translate in to buying power, only then it becomes money. For example, go to some 3rd world country and try to buy something in crypto in the market? Can you? That'll be valueless.
the task was simple for OP. OP just need to provide the documents and those crypto be transformed in to purchasing power instrument. But OP evaded doing so.
It would have been scam had @Calin possessed the purchasing power of those crypto. Does he? Even @Calin doesn't have the money at this point.
It's a very narrow view to blame @Calin at this point but I don't think it is a black and white issue rather it falls under grey area. If you are sending crypto to some other country for any service, then you should anticipate the risks. Because there may circumstances occur which could be out of the provider's domain of influence.
Guys, this is someone who sent $20K in crypto for DMCA ignored servers, what are the chances its legitimate?
No wonder the bank is holding the funds.
@calin here is trying his hard to make him look innocent. The fact is that we have fully cooperated with him and sent him "Genuine" statements which he is making look fake here. We were the ones running behind him for a single reply from him all these days. At first, why are the details of our customers required when you have been actively advertising yourself here as a fully anonymous host and you don't give an F about any legal organization in your country? Was that all fake advertisements?
I read a few comments here asking if didn't we know about the 10K euro verification and all... Calin living in Romania, did not know about this until last week and you expect us to know about his country's laws?
Now he is claiming we are not cooperating with him, the fact is that he told us he won't reply to our messages because the chat Is getting long and he is finding it difficult to find evidence to prove himself innocent of this forum post.
He claims he put the customer bank account number in place of "Customer Name" when he had all the customer details including "our" invoice to the customer. He simply messed up the things.
One more thing here, he is not showing us any evidence that the payment is still blocked. He is showing us 2 months old bank statements when we ask him about latest statements.
I thank the Moderators for removing his provider tag. Many innocent customers can fall into his trap because he actively comments on all "request" posts here.
We found later that he had posted our server requirements into the provider's forum and he was going to resell it to us from another provider.
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So , i'm a scamer or not?
Again , possible any @Mods to write me to PM, for give him the bank statements
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After more weeks you just ask me every day about any news and my i m explain you every time the same problem , I explained the problem to you, we ask you for details and you started with the same question again and again
Bank request this , and from what I can see, neither here nor on telegram, no more help with this.
@Calin the funds was transferred to you and recieved by you. This is NO longer your clients problem, it is YOUR problem to solve. When you sell the crypto you recieved as payment, to spend on other things, and your bank asks for documentation, this is your problem, and nobody elses. You got paid for services, and that should be more than enough for your bank to release the funds.
The only correct thing to do here is for you to buy crypto again, and transfer the whole amount back to your client + interest.
I'd love to have a world view this binary. Please help me.
@GoodHosting on the above thread you told me that I send only a few pictures, which would make me innocent and you fall to blame, I want to know do I have your consent to publish video of all our conversations? Here?
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@Calin is fault here! He recieved the money(crypto, in this case) in the crypto wallet. The next step for Calin was to deliver the server(s). He didn't do this! He tried firstly to have his money in the bank which is wrong in the crypto buy/sell of product. He has to deal with the bank, not @GoSSDHosting or @GoSSDHosting customer! He recieved the crypto! What is after this step is the @Calin SCAM.
So, I vote for ban @Calin for stealing money and not delivering the service.
@Not_Oles
Exactly! He even said if anything went wrong, He would refund it from his own funds before taking the order.
i always wish for such a detailed reason for a (temporary) ban
especially for users who have been active here for a long time.
You trusted this with 22.5K
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I tried to give you a refund, but you weren't able to give some complete/real details for that refund, your last chance was lost, it's not my fault
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I'm still waiting for more answers what you still don't give me
@Calin said: Unfortunetly bank say another things , why does "Fruits and vegetables" appear on one of the account statements , I'm ask you more times this question and never ask me with a answer
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@Calin Why are you ignoring the fact that once you have received payment safely in your bank account, the post-payment issues are irrelevant to the customer? You have to deliver the service or refund the payment back to the customer?
You do as i said earlier, buy the same crypto that you recieved + interest for your loan of his funds, and send it back to the wallet who sent you funds. You can see his wallet on the blockchain, cant you?
Stop making excuses, and clean up your mess.
So is there no way to retrieve the payment for the mess you created (and blaming us)?
@Calin is time to go to WHT. You should be banned long time here...
So who has the money now? The bank?
Thread summary:
@Calin recieved the crypto coins for some ordered servers from @GoodHosting , he didn't provide those servers to @GoSSDHosting .
Does this matter? Calin recieved the money in the agreed payment processor. He failed to deliver the product.
I don't know why this guy is not yet banned.