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Calin iHostART.Com took our $22.5K and scamming us!

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  • @commercial said:

    @GoSSDHosting said:
    Calin took payment to his cryptomus wallet, sent the crypto to Coinbase, and withdrew the crypto to his bank account. He then sent the payment to the supplier which got stuck.

    >
    Whatever Calin has done after receiving the money, if he can't deliver, it's his responsibility to reimburse the customer. That he has trouble paying a supplier is in no way the customer's responsibility.

    Not if @GoSSDHosting and/or the customer is the reason the bank can't release the money.

    Blocking transfers is normal, and the bank is required to do it by law. Normally, you can get the money released relatively quickly, but if you send mixed signals to the bank, you risk the money being held back until the authorities have finished their investigation.

    @GoSSDHosting, if you want your money back, you should contact a Romanian lawyer and let them handle the communication with the bank and Man Hosting SRL. Miscommunication can make it much worse.

  • @xvps said:
    Not if @GoSSDHosting and/or the customer is the reason the bank can't release the money.

    Blocking transfers is normal, and the bank is required to do it by law. Normally, you can get the money released relatively quickly, but if you send mixed signals to the bank, you risk the money being held back until the authorities have finished their investigation.

    There are two aspects to this: on the one hand, the legal aspect, which is best handled by a lawyer, I join you on that.

    On the other, the commercial aspect. A company that sells a DMCA-ignored service knows very well who it's working with. Accepting payments in Crypto on top of that is a guarantee that you'll get back customers who can't justify the origin of the funds. In making this choice, Calin has made an enlightened one. It's up to him to see what the price is for his reputation. The commercial stakes are not neutral.

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  • @Calin , when did the DDoS attacks start and do you think it is related to this?

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @ManishPant said:
    Wow that a lot of money everyone in LET can get a popcorn and a chilled beer with that money :wink:

    Calin buys tacos for everyone.

    @Hotmarer said:
    @GoSSDHosting you lost only $20,500, not so bad.

    That's 100x my entire net worth.
    I have like $200 in my name.
    At end of year I have to choose between lunch or ASN renewal.

    @matey0 said:
    Crypto probably comes from illegal stuff, customer used fake documents, Calin got himself a 💰

    Money confiscated by bank.
    Calin got nothing.

  • @xvps said: @Calin , when did the DDoS attacks start and do you think it is related to this?

    >

    No , this happened from more long time

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  • @stefeman said:
    People will soon forget this again. Calin makes a bank every 2-3 years.

    No serious person does long-term business on emotional criteria. That's why he gets the customers he deserves. By historical standards, Calin is no more to be pitied than these customers.

    Thanked by 1JasonM
  • @yoursunny said:
    That's 100x my entire net worth.
    I have like $200 in my name.

    The pushupcoin economy really took a hit with that shoulder injury, I see.

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep

    @yoursunny said:
    That's 100x my entire net worth.
    I have like $200 in my name.

    Don't wanna brag about it, but if I stay hungry for 1 week, I can afford a Big Mac menu with extra cheese!!!

    Thanked by 2sasslik Void
  • @Andreix said: Quote

    you boy are rich, in this time of crisis only criminals buy extra cheese..

  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep

    @sasslik said:

    @Andreix said: Quote

    you boy are rich, in this time of crisis only criminals buy extra cheese..

    Nah. Criminals take people's money hoping bigger criminals would come to pay their dues and set up some interest-free settlements.

    Thanked by 1sasslik
  • @Andreix said:

    @sasslik said:

    @Andreix said: Quote

    you boy are rich, in this time of crisis only criminals buy extra cheese..

    Nah. Criminals take people's money hoping bigger criminals would come to pay their dues and set up some interest-free settlements.

    no objection, still extra cheese.. :D

  • Thanked by 3JasonM ehab r33k
  • So, is it ok to scam such huge sum of money and still be in this forum?

    Thanked by 2sasslik JasonM
  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep
    edited September 2024

    @Levi said:
    So, is it ok to scam such huge sum of money and still be in this forum?

    When I kept telling you that LET is promoting criminals, staff via @Not_Oles decided to give me a "severe" warn accompanied by the message: "you do your job, we do ours" basically. :)

    And is not the 1st time Calin screws someone with big money... People don't change.

  • Was @Calin not in this exact same situation some months ago?

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  • LeviLevi Member
    edited September 2024

    @Sululu said:
    Was @Calin not in this exact same situation some months ago?

    Yes, he was. But crunchmaister bought out his dept whith marketing value in mind and enabled him to continue his scam life. And here we go again, but this time sum is way bigger. I have reported this thread due to high profile scam - zero reaction. Seems forum tolerates scammers…

    Thanked by 2sasslik Vexelia
  • @Andreix said:

    @Levi said:
    So, is it ok to scam such huge sum of money and still be in this forum?

    When I kept telling you that LET is promoting criminals, staff via @Not_Oles decided to give me a "severe" warn accompanied by the message: "you do your job, we do ours" basically. :)

    And is not the 1st time Calin screws someone with big money... People don't change.

    Calin's identity is practically public. Anyone who believes he's a criminal can sue him.
    The same can't be said of the customer, who wanted to avoid KYC, then upon request probably provided fake proof of funds and bank statements to remain anonymous.

    Thanked by 2GlitchyBox wamy
  • LeviLevi Member
    edited September 2024

    @matey0 said:

    @Andreix said:

    @Levi said:
    So, is it ok to scam such huge sum of money and still be in this forum?

    When I kept telling you that LET is promoting criminals, staff via @Not_Oles decided to give me a "severe" warn accompanied by the message: "you do your job, we do ours" basically. :)

    And is not the 1st time Calin screws someone with big money... People don't change.

    Calin's identity is practically public. Anyone who believes he's a criminal can sue him.
    The same can't be said of the customer, who wanted to avoid KYC, then upon request probably provided fake proof of funds and bank statements to remain anonymous.

    Wtf are you writing here? Calin is in some romania vilage and victim is in X country. Resources for litigation would be way bigger than scammed sum of money.

    Defending scammer is further enables him to continue malice practice. “He didn’t knew”, “bank is to blame”, “read chats” - cookie cutting.

    Thanked by 2Andreix Vexelia
  • sassliksasslik Barred
    edited September 2024

    is it just my opinion, or the LET administration issues provider tags too easily, there have been too many scams lately?!

    Thanked by 2Andreix pedala
  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @Andreix said:

    @yoursunny said:
    That's 100x my entire net worth.
    I have like $200 in my name.

    Don't wanna brag about it, but if I stay hungry for 1 week, I can afford a Big Mac menu with extra cheese!!!

    Cheeseburger has better value per price than a Big Mac.

    cheeseburger 1500 points; Big Mac 6000 points

  • SilvestSilvest Member
    edited September 2024

    @matey0 said:

    @Andreix said:

    @Levi said:
    So, is it ok to scam such huge sum of money and still be in this forum?

    When I kept telling you that LET is promoting criminals, staff via @Not_Oles decided to give me a "severe" warn accompanied by the message: "you do your job, we do ours" basically. :)

    And is not the 1st time Calin screws someone with big money... People don't change.

    Calin's identity is practically public. Anyone who believes he's a criminal can sue him.
    The same can't be said of the customer, who wanted to avoid KYC, then upon request probably provided fake proof of funds and bank statements to remain anonymous.

    At this point it's all speculations and assumptions. With Calin being in this situation not long ago. It already looks bad for him. And yeah it was not smart for the host to go with Calin with this already known.

    @xvps The crypto money arrived in Calin's wallet. (That's proof of receipt already and done at that moment) Whatever happens after that or what he does with the money from then onwards is on him and not on the sender lol. These times banks and governments are already going hard on moving money to/from crypto to your bank and it will only get worse. That's why you should not withdraw money from your crypto wallet to your bank. And if you really need to do it there are better ways than a direct withdrawal.

    Only go with Calin for the lulz... He should have known better.

  • 100% agree that Calin should not be able to post offers anymore on either of the green forums. This is not the first time, constant downtimes, scams and so on...

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  • @Levi said: Calin is in some romania vilage and victim is in X country. Resources for litigation would be way bigger than scammed sum of money.

    In pretty much every country except the US the losing party pays for any legal fees.
    And if you're entering a business relationship for $20k/3m purely on hopes and wishes that's on you.

    Thanked by 1GlitchyBox
  • The bank issue seems like a calin problem and not a client problem

    I would not have even sent any extra documents that wasn't asked before the purchase and just asked for a refund in crypto

    You got paid in crypto for a service you provide, You sold it and then the bank blocked the transaction because the amount was 10k+ I dont see why the bank needs any verification from the client for this since the source is your business and not someone else

    If it was blocked by the service you used to convert Crypto to Fiat then it would make sense

  • @matey0 said:

    @Levi said: Calin is in some romania vilage and victim is in X country. Resources for litigation would be way bigger than scammed sum of money.

    In pretty much every country except the US the losing party pays for any legal fees.
    And if you're entering a business relationship for $20k/3m purely on hopes and wishes that's on you.

    “Blame the victim” that’s typical tug pow. It is simple:

    • money sent
    • no services
    • Money refund

    Where is the money?

    Thanked by 2Andreix Vexelia
  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @Levi said:
    Where is the money?

    Locked by the bank.

    @beemerTheReal said:
    I would not have even sent any extra documents that wasn't asked before the purchase and just asked for a refund in crypto

    Who pays network transaction fee?

    You got paid in crypto for a service you provide, You sold it and then the bank blocked the transaction because the amount was 10k+ I dont see why the bank needs any verification from the client for this since the source is your business and not someone else

    Yes.
    An invoice issued to GoSSDHosting would be the correct document.
    It doesn't matter where GoSSDHosting or their client got the crypto.

  • @Levi said:

    @matey0 said:

    @Levi said: Calin is in some romania vilage and victim is in X country. Resources for litigation would be way bigger than scammed sum of money.

    In pretty much every country except the US the losing party pays for any legal fees.
    And if you're entering a business relationship for $20k/3m purely on hopes and wishes that's on you.

    “Blame the victim” that’s typical tug pow. It is simple:

    • money sent
    • no services
    • Money refund

    Where is the money?

    Money is held by the bank. Should Calin refund out of pocket?
    I also think like @beemerTheReal that if anyone the crypto exchange should've frozen the crypto and asked for proof of funds and it's weird that the bank is doing it. However I've heard of such cases, many banks are very weary of money from crypto exchanges.

    Let's say hypothetically that the exchange froze the funds (which should've happened). In that case I think it would also be reasonable for Calin to ask the customer for proof of funds.

    Now, the customer is almost certainly a criminal who submitted forged proof of funds and bank statements. What is Calin supposed to do now?

    I would have more sympathy if it were a regular customer, but in that case I don't think this would've gone down like it did in the first place.

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  • 0 fcks given on calin problems. Customer sent money - provider received it. No services. Send money back. No? Scam. Crunchy daddy help!

    Thanked by 2Andreix SashkaPro
  • AlbaHostAlbaHost Member, Patron Provider
    edited September 2024

    What i don't get is the fact that OP mentioned that he sent the money in parts to Calin's cryptomus account, and Calin transferred to coinbase to withdraw to his bank account. If the bank would like to refund (as per Calin's post here), then it would refund to coinbase and then coinbase to Calin's account. Based on what proof did the bank require OP's details/KYC if the source that the money was transferred to Calin's bank was actually coinbase? I assume that Calin's coinbase account is personal account rather than business account, otherwise it really doesn't make any sense though...
    Not to mention that OP stated whenever he sent crypto in parts to Calin, Calin confirmed the withdrawal, weird...

  • Why the customer needs to send any documents if your bank suspects you (as a business that provides a service). Weird story sounds like a scam, I bet the money financed the move out of the basement to DC

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