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  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @mikewazar said:
    I am pointing this out in the rules:

    “If you are found to be misleading customers or using ethically questionable practices that may result in financial loss to customers, your Patron Provider tag will be changed to a Host Rep tag and you will not be able to post offers.”

    i fully believe i am being misled and that @EvosHosting is conducting themselves under questionable practices that HAVE resulted in financial losses

    Absolutely it’s been a circus since the start with @EvosHosting

  • mwmw Member
    edited August 2024

    Based on how they are handling taxes, i know a few other members have mentioned questionable, borderline criminal behaviour but let me explain what i find rather odd.

    This host claims to charge 22% VAT under Italian law, yet when I sent them my documentation as a VAT vendor, I was told sorry, you are still going to pay us VAT because we generated the invoice already at a price including VAT.

    After fighting with them, they acknowledged that yes I am VAT exempt under law, but the best they can do is give me a €15 discount and next time I order they can exempt the VAT. This €15 was a random number, it did not represent 22% of the order consideration.

    The invoice included VAT, less €15 discounted. So they were collecting VAT, but it does not seem that they are actually paying this over to the tax authority, but rather pocketing it and using “VAT” as an excuse to pad their excl VAT prices they advertise

    Then suddenly, I saw everyone else asking why they were paying VAT at 22% when they were excluded from it citing the relevant tax laws that apply

    After this, Evoshosting started discounting everyone by changing their prices so that the consideration including 22% equalled what they would have paid if they were VAT exempt, but the VAT line item was just lowered so the net total incl VAT = what the net total excl VAT would have been

    Strange?

    and now subsequent, every order placed with evoshosting is more expensive excl VAT such that excl VAT I, despite being VAT exempt, now pay the price excl VAT what they would have been incl VAT at the original price

    they then also changed the quoted price for servers ordered two weeks ago, citing they read their own website incorrectly and that the prices are now €65 more than originally agreed, but they would kindly discount that €65 bollocks number to €45 as a gesture of goodwill

    guess what? the original price + €45 = what the price would have been incl VAT from the beginning

    what the fuck is going in?

    Thanked by 1maverick
  • mwmw Member

    I am directly accusing you of VAT fraud @EvosHosting

    No sugar coat. I am accusing you of fraud.

  • @allthemtings said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @allthemtings said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @allthemtings said:
    I don’t know how he’s not been banned yet honestly I’ve been people banned for less

    The staff should ban me for?
    delivery delays on dedicated and hdds :/

    Damn the lights are on but no one’s home

    Take some accountability

    nobody at this company knows what the word accountability means. its always someone elses fault

    I’m still convinced it’s some sort of money laundering scheme or something dodgy and this “hosting” team are just winging it the best they can and praying for the best. There’s no way a company who claim to handle millions a year operate in the way they do.

    But that’s just my opinion, what do I know?

    Certainly to reclaim money I would not do hosting but a very different business,
    nowadays it is all about tracking what you do

  • @mikewazar said:
    i dont think they have the mental facilities to operate a laundromat. this is just incompetence turned up to 11 with a side dish of delusion. they compared themselves to OVH and Hetzner for god sake

    I did not compare evos to hetzner,
    all companies started small is that those who are there like hetzner and ovh are like evos who after 10 months are managing to work

  • @RapToN said:

    @EvosHosting said:
    OVH is a huge company, but even large companies can face problems, such as the incident where they suffered a server fire. Despite this, OVH remains a big player in the industry.

    OVH took less time to fix the damage from the fire than it took you to post a picture of the “purchased” hdds xD

    How can we publish photos of hdds if they are at a dhl location?

  • @mikewazar said:
    i want to know who Alessandro Accorsi is

    is the 2 head of len service srl

  • @mikewazar said:
    I am pointing this out in the rules:

    “If you are found to be misleading customers or using ethically questionable practices that may result in financial loss to customers, your Patron Provider tag will be changed to a Host Rep tag and you will not be able to post offers.”

    i fully believe i am being misled and that @EvosHosting is conducting themselves under questionable practices that HAVE resulted in financial losses

    We did not use bad practices or steal money from customers,
    activated the servers, the 30-day deadline started,
    we have delayed your 2 servers and are giving the 3 vps storage for FREE,

  • @mikewazar said:
    Based on how they are handling taxes, i know a few other members have mentioned questionable, borderline criminal behaviour but let me explain what i find rather odd.

    This host claims to charge 22% VAT under Italian law, yet when I sent them my documentation as a VAT vendor, I was told sorry, you are still going to pay us VAT because we generated the invoice already at a price including VAT.

    After fighting with them, they acknowledged that yes I am VAT exempt under law, but the best they can do is give me a €15 discount and next time I order they can exempt the VAT. This €15 was a random number, it did not represent 22% of the order consideration.

    The invoice included VAT, less €15 discounted. So they were collecting VAT, but it does not seem that they are actually paying this over to the tax authority, but rather pocketing it and using “VAT” as an excuse to pad their excl VAT prices they advertise

    Then suddenly, I saw everyone else asking why they were paying VAT at 22% when they were excluded from it citing the relevant tax laws that apply

    After this, Evoshosting started discounting everyone by changing their prices so that the consideration including 22% equalled what they would have paid if they were VAT exempt, but the VAT line item was just lowered so the net total incl VAT = what the net total excl VAT would have been

    Strange?

    and now subsequent, every order placed with evoshosting is more expensive excl VAT such that excl VAT I, despite being VAT exempt, now pay the price excl VAT what they would have been incl VAT at the original price

    they then also changed the quoted price for servers ordered two weeks ago, citing they read their own website incorrectly and that the prices are now €65 more than originally agreed, but they would kindly discount that €65 bollocks number to €45 as a gesture of goodwill

    guess what? the original price + €45 = what the price would have been incl VAT from the beginning

    what the fuck is going in?

    VAT is applied to all persons,
    (we are currently awaiting approval to remove it for non-EU citizens)
    only VAT-OWNERS are exempt from VAT

  • mwmw Member

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:
    I am pointing this out in the rules:

    “If you are found to be misleading customers or using ethically questionable practices that may result in financial loss to customers, your Patron Provider tag will be changed to a Host Rep tag and you will not be able to post offers.”

    i fully believe i am being misled and that @EvosHosting is conducting themselves under questionable practices that HAVE resulted in financial losses

    We did not use bad practices or steal money from customers,
    activated the servers, the 30-day deadline started,
    we have delayed your 2 servers and are giving the 3 vps storage for FREE,

    i gave you an interest free loan for >30 days while waiting for service delivery you are not doing me a favour by giving me what i pay for

    deliver my servers and stop this circus act

  • @mikewazar said:
    I am directly accusing you of VAT fraud @EvosHosting

    No sugar coat. I am accusing you of fraud.

    OK,
    you go to the police station you make a complaint and in front of a judge you say if vat should not be applied :)

  • mwmw Member

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:
    Based on how they are handling taxes, i know a few other members have mentioned questionable, borderline criminal behaviour but let me explain what i find rather odd.

    This host claims to charge 22% VAT under Italian law, yet when I sent them my documentation as a VAT vendor, I was told sorry, you are still going to pay us VAT because we generated the invoice already at a price including VAT.

    After fighting with them, they acknowledged that yes I am VAT exempt under law, but the best they can do is give me a €15 discount and next time I order they can exempt the VAT. This €15 was a random number, it did not represent 22% of the order consideration.

    The invoice included VAT, less €15 discounted. So they were collecting VAT, but it does not seem that they are actually paying this over to the tax authority, but rather pocketing it and using “VAT” as an excuse to pad their excl VAT prices they advertise

    Then suddenly, I saw everyone else asking why they were paying VAT at 22% when they were excluded from it citing the relevant tax laws that apply

    After this, Evoshosting started discounting everyone by changing their prices so that the consideration including 22% equalled what they would have paid if they were VAT exempt, but the VAT line item was just lowered so the net total incl VAT = what the net total excl VAT would have been

    Strange?

    and now subsequent, every order placed with evoshosting is more expensive excl VAT such that excl VAT I, despite being VAT exempt, now pay the price excl VAT what they would have been incl VAT at the original price

    they then also changed the quoted price for servers ordered two weeks ago, citing they read their own website incorrectly and that the prices are now €65 more than originally agreed, but they would kindly discount that €65 bollocks number to €45 as a gesture of goodwill

    guess what? the original price + €45 = what the price would have been incl VAT from the beginning

    what the fuck is going in?

    VAT is applied to all persons,
    (we are currently awaiting approval to remove it for non-EU citizens)
    only VAT-OWNERS are exempt from VAT

    you clearly didnt read what i said or decided to ignore it

    address what i said with factual reasoning. until then your behaviour is akin to fraudsters

  • @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:
    I am pointing this out in the rules:

    “If you are found to be misleading customers or using ethically questionable practices that may result in financial loss to customers, your Patron Provider tag will be changed to a Host Rep tag and you will not be able to post offers.”

    i fully believe i am being misled and that @EvosHosting is conducting themselves under questionable practices that HAVE resulted in financial losses

    We did not use bad practices or steal money from customers,
    activated the servers, the 30-day deadline started,
    we have delayed your 2 servers and are giving the 3 vps storage for FREE,

    i gave you an interest free loan for >30 days while waiting for service delivery you are not doing me a favour by giving me what i pay for

    deliver my servers and stop this circus act

    the 2 x8tb xeon servers have not yet been paid for

  • mwmw Member

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:
    I am directly accusing you of VAT fraud @EvosHosting

    No sugar coat. I am accusing you of fraud.

    OK,
    you go to the police station you make a complaint and in front of a judge you say if vat should not be applied :)

    VAT is not applied to me, but what you are doing instead is padding your excl VAT rates to make them equivalent to incl VAT rates because you are not paying the VAT you collect to the authorities

  • mwmw Member

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:
    I am pointing this out in the rules:

    “If you are found to be misleading customers or using ethically questionable practices that may result in financial loss to customers, your Patron Provider tag will be changed to a Host Rep tag and you will not be able to post offers.”

    i fully believe i am being misled and that @EvosHosting is conducting themselves under questionable practices that HAVE resulted in financial losses

    We did not use bad practices or steal money from customers,
    activated the servers, the 30-day deadline started,
    we have delayed your 2 servers and are giving the 3 vps storage for FREE,

    i gave you an interest free loan for >30 days while waiting for service delivery you are not doing me a favour by giving me what i pay for

    deliver my servers and stop this circus act

    the 2 x8tb xeon servers have not yet been paid for

    if I had to pay for them and wait a month for delivery, by now i’d have just done a charge back like i was about to do with the other dedi i ordered and waited a month for

    remember that? im sure you will just respond to this post with nonsense but im sure you do remember that

  • @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:
    I am directly accusing you of VAT fraud @EvosHosting

    No sugar coat. I am accusing you of fraud.

    OK,
    you go to the police station you make a complaint and in front of a judge you say if vat should not be applied :)

    VAT is not applied to me, but what you are doing instead is padding your excl VAT rates to make them equivalent to incl VAT rates because you are not paying the VAT you collect to the authorities

    We pay 22% monthly on each sale,
    excluding those with a VAT number as we are not required to charge VAT

  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:
    I am pointing this out in the rules:

    “If you are found to be misleading customers or using ethically questionable practices that may result in financial loss to customers, your Patron Provider tag will be changed to a Host Rep tag and you will not be able to post offers.”

    i fully believe i am being misled and that @EvosHosting is conducting themselves under questionable practices that HAVE resulted in financial losses

    We did not use bad practices or steal money from customers,
    activated the servers, the 30-day deadline started,
    we have delayed your 2 servers and are giving the 3 vps storage for FREE,

    i gave you an interest free loan for >30 days while waiting for service delivery you are not doing me a favour by giving me what i pay for

    deliver my servers and stop this circus act

    the 2 x8tb xeon servers have not yet been paid for

    There is many people who paid for servers weeks back still undelivered not a surprise

  • @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:
    I am pointing this out in the rules:

    “If you are found to be misleading customers or using ethically questionable practices that may result in financial loss to customers, your Patron Provider tag will be changed to a Host Rep tag and you will not be able to post offers.”

    i fully believe i am being misled and that @EvosHosting is conducting themselves under questionable practices that HAVE resulted in financial losses

    We did not use bad practices or steal money from customers,
    activated the servers, the 30-day deadline started,
    we have delayed your 2 servers and are giving the 3 vps storage for FREE,

    i gave you an interest free loan for >30 days while waiting for service delivery you are not doing me a favour by giving me what i pay for

    deliver my servers and stop this circus act

    the 2 x8tb xeon servers have not yet been paid for

    if I had to pay for them and wait a month for delivery, by now i’d have just done a charge back like i was about to do with the other dedi i ordered and waited a month for

    remember that? im sure you will just respond to this post with nonsense but im sure you do remember that

    I remember everything that happens,
    but don't say that you paid for the servers and we are not giving you the service,
    as of today you have not paid for the service pending delivery and evos is providing you with 3 VPS Storage 20TB provissory and free of charge

  • mwmw Member

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:
    I am directly accusing you of VAT fraud @EvosHosting

    No sugar coat. I am accusing you of fraud.

    OK,
    you go to the police station you make a complaint and in front of a judge you say if vat should not be applied :)

    VAT is not applied to me, but what you are doing instead is padding your excl VAT rates to make them equivalent to incl VAT rates because you are not paying the VAT you collect to the authorities

    We pay 22% monthly on each sale,
    excluding those with a VAT number as we are not required to charge VAT

    you are continuing to dodge the allegations and instead respond with nothing. i dont care what you say, i am judging you based on what you have been doing in substance

  • @allthemtings said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:
    I am pointing this out in the rules:

    “If you are found to be misleading customers or using ethically questionable practices that may result in financial loss to customers, your Patron Provider tag will be changed to a Host Rep tag and you will not be able to post offers.”

    i fully believe i am being misled and that @EvosHosting is conducting themselves under questionable practices that HAVE resulted in financial losses

    We did not use bad practices or steal money from customers,
    activated the servers, the 30-day deadline started,
    we have delayed your 2 servers and are giving the 3 vps storage for FREE,

    i gave you an interest free loan for >30 days while waiting for service delivery you are not doing me a favour by giving me what i pay for

    deliver my servers and stop this circus act

    the 2 x8tb xeon servers have not yet been paid for

    There is many people who paid for servers weeks back still undelivered not a surprise

    undelivered servers are xeons,
    all other dedicated servers are delivered
    around 5-6 order :)

  • mwmw Member

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:
    I am pointing this out in the rules:

    “If you are found to be misleading customers or using ethically questionable practices that may result in financial loss to customers, your Patron Provider tag will be changed to a Host Rep tag and you will not be able to post offers.”

    i fully believe i am being misled and that @EvosHosting is conducting themselves under questionable practices that HAVE resulted in financial losses

    We did not use bad practices or steal money from customers,
    activated the servers, the 30-day deadline started,
    we have delayed your 2 servers and are giving the 3 vps storage for FREE,

    i gave you an interest free loan for >30 days while waiting for service delivery you are not doing me a favour by giving me what i pay for

    deliver my servers and stop this circus act

    the 2 x8tb xeon servers have not yet been paid for

    if I had to pay for them and wait a month for delivery, by now i’d have just done a charge back like i was about to do with the other dedi i ordered and waited a month for

    remember that? im sure you will just respond to this post with nonsense but im sure you do remember that

    I remember everything that happens,
    but don't say that you paid for the servers and we are not giving you the service,
    as of today you have not paid for the service pending delivery and evos is providing you with 3 VPS Storage 20TB provissory and free of charge

    you mean the VPS you gave me with 50% CPU steal?

  • @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:
    I am directly accusing you of VAT fraud @EvosHosting

    No sugar coat. I am accusing you of fraud.

    OK,
    you go to the police station you make a complaint and in front of a judge you say if vat should not be applied :)

    VAT is not applied to me, but what you are doing instead is padding your excl VAT rates to make them equivalent to incl VAT rates because you are not paying the VAT you collect to the authorities

    We pay 22% monthly on each sale,
    excluding those with a VAT number as we are not required to charge VAT

    you are continuing to dodge the allegations and instead respond with nothing. i dont care what you say, i am judging you based on what you have been doing in substance

    Don't speak without knowing why VAT is paid monthly

  • mwmw Member

    @EvosHosting said:

    @allthemtings said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:
    I am pointing this out in the rules:

    “If you are found to be misleading customers or using ethically questionable practices that may result in financial loss to customers, your Patron Provider tag will be changed to a Host Rep tag and you will not be able to post offers.”

    i fully believe i am being misled and that @EvosHosting is conducting themselves under questionable practices that HAVE resulted in financial losses

    We did not use bad practices or steal money from customers,
    activated the servers, the 30-day deadline started,
    we have delayed your 2 servers and are giving the 3 vps storage for FREE,

    i gave you an interest free loan for >30 days while waiting for service delivery you are not doing me a favour by giving me what i pay for

    deliver my servers and stop this circus act

    the 2 x8tb xeon servers have not yet been paid for

    There is many people who paid for servers weeks back still undelivered not a surprise

    undelivered servers are xeons,
    all other dedicated servers are delivered
    around 5-6 order :)

    this is true, they have been undelivered for weeks and all you can say is eish DHL. you are not helping your case

  • mwmw Member

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:
    I am directly accusing you of VAT fraud @EvosHosting

    No sugar coat. I am accusing you of fraud.

    OK,
    you go to the police station you make a complaint and in front of a judge you say if vat should not be applied :)

    VAT is not applied to me, but what you are doing instead is padding your excl VAT rates to make them equivalent to incl VAT rates because you are not paying the VAT you collect to the authorities

    We pay 22% monthly on each sale,
    excluding those with a VAT number as we are not required to charge VAT

    you are continuing to dodge the allegations and instead respond with nothing. i dont care what you say, i am judging you based on what you have been doing in substance

    Don't speak without knowing why VAT is paid monthly

    i am an accountant by trade. dont even dare gas light me again

  • mwmw Member

    your strategy of posting more nonsense to noise out my allegations of your VAT fraud wont work

  • @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @allthemtings said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:
    I am pointing this out in the rules:

    “If you are found to be misleading customers or using ethically questionable practices that may result in financial loss to customers, your Patron Provider tag will be changed to a Host Rep tag and you will not be able to post offers.”

    i fully believe i am being misled and that @EvosHosting is conducting themselves under questionable practices that HAVE resulted in financial losses

    We did not use bad practices or steal money from customers,
    activated the servers, the 30-day deadline started,
    we have delayed your 2 servers and are giving the 3 vps storage for FREE,

    i gave you an interest free loan for >30 days while waiting for service delivery you are not doing me a favour by giving me what i pay for

    deliver my servers and stop this circus act

    the 2 x8tb xeon servers have not yet been paid for

    There is many people who paid for servers weeks back still undelivered not a surprise

    undelivered servers are xeons,
    all other dedicated servers are delivered
    around 5-6 order :)

    this is true, they have been undelivered for weeks and all you can say is eish DHL. you are not helping your case

    We can do no more than solecitate dhl,
    i do not have the possibility to pick up is to go to the dhl warehouse in germany

  • @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:
    I am directly accusing you of VAT fraud @EvosHosting

    No sugar coat. I am accusing you of fraud.

    OK,
    you go to the police station you make a complaint and in front of a judge you say if vat should not be applied :)

    VAT is not applied to me, but what you are doing instead is padding your excl VAT rates to make them equivalent to incl VAT rates because you are not paying the VAT you collect to the authorities

    We pay 22% monthly on each sale,
    excluding those with a VAT number as we are not required to charge VAT

    you are continuing to dodge the allegations and instead respond with nothing. i dont care what you say, i am judging you based on what you have been doing in substance

    Don't speak without knowing why VAT is paid monthly

    i am an accountant by trade. dont even dare gas light me again

    You don't know the Italian laws at all,
    again if you want all the precise information with the number of the law [email protected]

  • mwmw Member

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @allthemtings said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:
    I am pointing this out in the rules:

    “If you are found to be misleading customers or using ethically questionable practices that may result in financial loss to customers, your Patron Provider tag will be changed to a Host Rep tag and you will not be able to post offers.”

    i fully believe i am being misled and that @EvosHosting is conducting themselves under questionable practices that HAVE resulted in financial losses

    We did not use bad practices or steal money from customers,
    activated the servers, the 30-day deadline started,
    we have delayed your 2 servers and are giving the 3 vps storage for FREE,

    i gave you an interest free loan for >30 days while waiting for service delivery you are not doing me a favour by giving me what i pay for

    deliver my servers and stop this circus act

    the 2 x8tb xeon servers have not yet been paid for

    There is many people who paid for servers weeks back still undelivered not a surprise

    undelivered servers are xeons,
    all other dedicated servers are delivered
    around 5-6 order :)

    this is true, they have been undelivered for weeks and all you can say is eish DHL. you are not helping your case

    We can do no more than solecitate dhl,
    i do not have the possibility to pick up is to go to the dhl warehouse in germany

    germany? didnt the screenshot you send me say netherlands? and before that it was romania

    why are your packages going on a tour around europe?

  • @mikewazar said:
    your strategy of posting more nonsense to noise out my allegations of your VAT fraud wont work

    If we evade VAT the turnover would be over 3M

  • mwmw Member

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @EvosHosting said:

    @mikewazar said:
    I am directly accusing you of VAT fraud @EvosHosting

    No sugar coat. I am accusing you of fraud.

    OK,
    you go to the police station you make a complaint and in front of a judge you say if vat should not be applied :)

    VAT is not applied to me, but what you are doing instead is padding your excl VAT rates to make them equivalent to incl VAT rates because you are not paying the VAT you collect to the authorities

    We pay 22% monthly on each sale,
    excluding those with a VAT number as we are not required to charge VAT

    you are continuing to dodge the allegations and instead respond with nothing. i dont care what you say, i am judging you based on what you have been doing in substance

    Don't speak without knowing why VAT is paid monthly

    i am an accountant by trade. dont even dare gas light me again

    You don't know the Italian laws at all,
    again if you want all the precise information with the number of the law [email protected]

    i dont need to email you anything. im posting here in public so the public is aware of your VAT fraud, and hopefully leaving evidence of your flip flopping for the tax authorities for when you get nailed

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