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40€ incl taxes/EU/2 Gbps unlimited bandwith/8 core CPU/16 GB RAM/1 TB NVMe

KaKi87KaKi87 Member
edited August 2024 in Requests

Hi,

I'm looking for a server, whether dedicated or virtual, with the following specs :

  • max. 40 EUR per month, taxes included, strictly can't go above ;
  • located in the European Union, strictly can't be outside ;
  • 2 Gbps bandwith, unmetered, symmetrical and dedicated ;
  • 8 or 12 or 16 CPU cores, dedicated or virtual ;
  • 16 or 32 GB of RAM ;
  • 1 or 2 TB of NVMe SSD.

Bandwith wouldn't be continuously used (most of the time serving websites), but those 2Gbps need to be guaranteed when needed (a few minutes every few hours of big uploads and downloads from 1 to 5 simultaneous clients).

Thanks

Comments

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    Good luck! If you find something please share it with me.

  • @plumberg said:
    Good luck!

    Thanks

    If you find something please share it with me.

    No problem.

  • @KaKi87

    You need to think outside the box if you are looking to stay within your budget.

    2 Gbps bandwith, unmetered, symmetrical and dedicated ;

  • conceptconcept Member
    edited August 2024

    2gbps? that is tough
    unmetered bw @ 2Gbit? that is even harder
    2gbit unmetered AND dedicated? NO WAY
    2gbit unmetered AND dedicated AND 40 eur? Impossible.

  • You don't need unmetered traffic for this.

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  • @concept said:
    2gbps? that is tough
    unmetered bw @ 2Gbit? that is even harder
    2gbit unmetered AND dedicated? NO WAY
    2gbit unmetered AND dedicated AND 40 eur? Impossible.

    Why everything seems cheap except bandwith ?

    When looking at 1 Gbps servers, 40 EUR can buy you 8/12 cores, 64 GB of RAM and 1 TB of SSD, but when only wanting more than 1 Gbps of bandwith, it's unreachable at that price regardless of everything else... Damn, why ?

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited August 2024

    @KaKi87 said:

    @concept said:
    2gbps? that is tough
    unmetered bw @ 2Gbit? that is even harder
    2gbit unmetered AND dedicated? NO WAY
    2gbit unmetered AND dedicated AND 40 eur? Impossible.

    Why everything seems cheap except bandwith ?

    When looking at 1 Gbps servers, 40 EUR can buy you 8/12 cores, 64 GB of RAM and 1 TB of SSD, but when only wanting more than 1 Gbps of bandwith, it's unreachable at that price regardless of everything else... Damn, why ?

    I am using 2-3 TB on my $1 vps, so depends on the plan. (The plan limit is 10 TB per month)

    Again, think outside the box

    — I am a data engineer and get paid for playing with numbers.

  • @KaKi87 said:
    When looking at 1 Gbps servers, 40 EUR can buy you 8/12 cores, 64 GB of RAM and 1 TB of SSD, but when only wanting more than 1 Gbps of bandwith, it's unreachable at that price regardless of everything else... Damn, why ?

    Well most servers are sold as 1gbit or 10gbit. Very rarely would you ever get 2Gbit or 3Gbit servers unless you are OVH.

  • @ehhthing said:
    I am using 2-3 TB on my $1 vps, so depends on the plan. (The plan limit is 10 TB per month)

    You seem to be talking about traffic but not bandwith 🤔

    @concept said:
    most servers are sold as 1gbit or 10gbit

    Couldn't a 10 Gbps host machine provide a virtual machine with 2 Gbps ?

    That said, I wouldn't mind 10, but is that any easier to find whithin this price range ?

    Thanks

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited August 2024

    @KaKi87 said:

    @ehhthing said:
    I am using 2-3 TB on my $1 vps, so depends on the plan. (The plan limit is 10 TB per month)

    You seem to be talking about traffic but not bandwith 🤔

    Well, the shared data port is 10 gig

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    -----------------------------——-
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 2.12 Gbits/sec  | 5.41 Gbits/sec  | 11.6 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 3.49 Gbits/sec  | 6.08 Gbits/sec  |  3.15 ms
    
    

    The cost of this vps is less than $1 per month

  • @KaKi87 said:

    @ehhthing said:
    I am using 2-3 TB on my $1 vps, so depends on the plan. (The plan limit is 10 TB per month)

    How the fuck did you quote someone and somehow tag me in the quote?

  • You can go for Netcup. Their RS4000 (31.59 EUR) or VPS8000 (38.08 EUR) comes under your requirement. If you are a business customer, you can get the 19% vat off of the price and make it even lower.

    Though read their policies properly, especially the cancellation policy.

    There are some coupons available. You can google for those.

    Thanked by 1homelabber
  • @ehhthing said:
    You don't need unmetered traffic for this.

    What do I need then ?

    @dev_vps said:
    the shared data port is 10 gig

    I need dedicated bandwidth. Not as much as 10, but I do.

    @ehhthing said:
    How the fuck did you quote someone and somehow tag me in the quote?

    Typo, sorry 😅

    @neon_orange said:
    You can go for Netcup.

    I was very much interested in Netcup indeed, but turns out they only guarantee 1 Gbps, the rest being "up to 2.5 Gbps".

    Thanks

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited August 2024

    @KaKi87 said:

    I need dedicated bandwidth.
    Not as much as 10, but I do.

    Then, your budget must be set accordingly.

  • KaKi87KaKi87 Member
    edited August 2024

    @dev_vps said:
    Then, your budget must be set accordingly.

    That's why I asked : why is CPU cheap, RAM cheap, NVMe cheap, but bandwidth expensive af ?

  • @KaKi87 said:

    • 2 Gbps bandwith, unmetered, symmetrical and dedicated ;

    I think you mean 2 Gbps Port Speed with XX Traffic / month
    because 2 Gbps Unmetred is 650 TB / month.

    You should be specific how many TB you will consume / month.

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  • @JohnGrag said: 2 Gbps Unmetred is 650 TB / month.
    You should be specific how many TB you will consume / month.

    I indeed don't need that much as I said I won't be using the bandwith continuously, however I can't predict how much I'll use, it will depend on how many times my friends will download stuff and what they're going to download. So I won't accept a limit for fear of reaching it and everything going down.

  • khnielsenkhnielsen Member
    edited August 2024

    @KaKi87 said:

    @dev_vps said:
    Then, your budget must be set accordingly.

    That's why I asked : why is CPU cheap, RAM cheap, NVMe cheap, but bandwidth expensive af ?

    Because traffic is expensive, depending on quality/mix you're talking ~€75-100 per 1Gbit, can be lower if you find someone with a high commitment - Those expenses are monthly recurring expenses - The only way to hit a price lower than that is basically to sell it X times over and hope not everyone use it at the same time.

    Hardware is a onetime payment that you can split over 3-4-5 years depending on the risk you wanna take.

    Power and Bandwidth are essentially the largest operational cost.

  • KaKi87KaKi87 Member
    edited August 2024

    @khnielsen said: Because traffic is expensive, depending on quality/mix you're talking ~€75-100 per 1Gbit, can be lower if you find someone with a high commitment - Those expenses are monthly recurring expenses - The only way to hit a price lower than that is basically to sell it X times over and hope not everyone use it at the same time.

    Hardware is a onetime payment that you can split over 3-4-5 years depending on the risk you wanna take.

    Power and Bandwidth are essentially the largest operational cost.

    I see...

    Why is domestic bandwidth much cheaper then ?

    Me and my friends can all afford multi-gigabit FTTH but I can't afford a server to keep up with it 😭

  • @khnielsen said:

    @KaKi87 said:

    @dev_vps said:
    Then, your budget must be set accordingly.

    That's why I asked : why is CPU cheap, RAM cheap, NVMe cheap, but bandwidth expensive af ?

    Because traffic is expensive, depending on quality/mix you're talking ~€75-100 per 1Gbit, can be lower if you find someone with a high commitment -
    Those expenses are monthly recurring expenses - The only way to hit a price lower than that is basically to sell it X times over and hope not everyone use it at the same time.

    Exactly.

    When $1 VPS plan has 10 TB bandwidth at 10 gig shared port -- the provider is hoping that I will be using only a small fraction of the allocated bandwidth.

  • @dev_vps said: When $1 VPS plan has 10 TB bandwidth at 10 gig shared port -- the provider is hoping that I will be using only a small fraction of the allocated bandwidth.

    Okay so what's the provider ?

  • @KaKi87 said:

    @khnielsen said: Because traffic is expensive, depending on quality/mix you're talking ~€75-100 per 1Gbit, can be lower if you find someone with a high commitment - Those expenses are monthly recurring expenses - The only way to hit a price lower than that is basically to sell it X times over and hope not everyone use it at the same time.

    Hardware is a onetime payment that you can split over 3-4-5 years depending on the risk you wanna take.

    Power and Bandwidth are essentially the largest operational cost.

    I see...

    Why is domestic bandwidth much cheaper then ?

    Me and my friends can all afford multi-gigabit FTTH but I can't afford a server to keep up with it 😭

    Because your domestic bandwidth is sold 30-40-50 times, it isn't uncommon for a 10Gbit pop to host 100-200Gbit worth of endusers.

    Domestic bandwidth is you getting 1Gbit and potentially using 10Mbit average, in the DC you see much higher usage rates

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  • @dev_vps said:

    The cost of this vps is less than $1 per month

    Could you send the link for this VPS provider? Thanks..

  • @KaKi87 said:

    @dev_vps said: When $1 VPS plan has 10 TB bandwidth at 10 gig shared port -- the provider is hoping that I will be using only a small fraction of the allocated bandwidth.

    Okay so what's the provider ?

    No use, it is not dedicated bandwidth. And you are looking for dedicated data port with symmetrical up and down speeds.

  • @dev_vps said: No use, it is not dedicated bandwidth. And you are looking for dedicated data port with symmetrical up and down speeds.

    Well, apparently I have no choice.

  • @KaKi87 said:
    Well, apparently I have no choice.

    You can do it but with a compromise:

    Layer7 — €17.90 / month yearly
    6 Ryzen Cores (shared)
    24576 MB RAM
    720 GB NVMe
    51200 GB/month bandwidth
    5.0 Gbps port speed
    IPv4 + IPv6
    France

    AllHost in the UK floats around similar values but with 16 Epyc cores. More affiliated compromises.

  • KaKi87KaKi87 Member
    edited August 2024

    @davide said: Layer7 — €17.90 / month yearly
    6 Ryzen Cores (shared)
    24576 MB RAM
    720 GB NVMe
    51200 GB/month bandwidth
    5.0 Gbps port speed

    I can't afford paying yearly 😅

    Also I'd absolutely need more storage but wouldn't need as much memory, e.g. 16 GB RAM and 1 TB NVMe.

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