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Register .RU or .SU without a Russian passport?

Is it possible?

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  • emreemre Member, LIR

    yes it is possible.. Just give you own passport number and done.

  • @emre said:
    yes it is possible.. Just give you own passport number and done.

    So I can use a passport from any country?

  • emreemre Member, LIR

    yes you can use any passport info

  • Even an old passport number.

  • MrXMrX Member

    Even a fake passport number.

    ... Or so I've heard...

  • You can use any passport number

    @MrX said:
    Even a fake passport number.

    ... Or so I've heard...

    I guess. There's no way for them to check all domains, and with foreigners... But it could become a problem if you ever have to verify your identity, and it's an important domain.

  • What makes you think you need a Russian passport?

  • @jakelong said:
    Is it possible?

    You don't need a Russian passport for registration most of the time... I registered a ru domain here http://www.domainsfoundry.co.uk/domain-names/register-ru-domain-names/ and I wasn't asked for one...

  • @Andrei said:
    You don't need a Russian passport for registration most of the time... I registered a ru domain here http://www.domainsfoundry.co.uk/domain-names/register-ru-domain-names/ and I wasn't asked for one...

    Wasn't asked for a Russian passport or a passport full stop?

  • @alfieyeoman said:
    Wasn't asked for a Russian passport or a passport full stop?

    The question was specifically about a Russian passport and there are no requirements as for a Russian citizenship for either of both domains.

  • Full whois protection is enabled on all dot ru domains. It's impossible to disable it until you'll send a real letter to registry company.

    You'll need to supply passport information by default, no need for scans and etc. Also it doesn't matter from which country you're. Be careful if you'll fail to proof yourself by providing required scans - you'll simply lose all your domains.

  • Keep in mind that some countries do not allow to use a passport/ID(-number) for automated and permanently saved identification with foreign companies/institutions (like for example: Germany).

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  • AndreiAndrei Member
    edited April 2014

    @alfieyeoman said:
    Wasn't asked for a Russian passport or a passport full stop?

    I think a few years back there were some issues the RU Registry had with scammers registering .ru & .su domains so they tightened up, but I think that is no longer the case, I didn't provide any passport or anything, I think it is no longer needed, however the payment and the registrant's address must be the same...

    Update:

    According to the RU Registry, .ru domains may be registered by anyone, however regarding .su domains "The registration is open to anyone. A Registrant willing to get a SU registration will be required to submit authentic personal data. The SU TLD allows an option to register a domain in national script (IDN)." source: http://nic.ru/dns/domain/en/su.html

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  • VPNVPN Member

    @neroux said:
    What makes you think you need a Russian passport?

    I tried to register a .su domain a few months back and was advised by 101domains that I couldn't register it as the passport number I gave them was matched to either UK IPS (formerly UKPA) or EEC and therefore not valid for registration.

  • @OkieDoke said:
    I tried to register a .su domain a few months back and was advised by 101domains that I couldn't register it as the passport number I gave them was matched to either UK IPS (formerly UKPA) or EEC and therefore not valid for registration.

    http://www.nic.ru/dns/domain/en/su.html states

    The registration is open to anyone.

  • VPNVPN Member

    Oh wow fair enough. Well I still have the $24.95 credit in my 101domains account and the domain is still available so I'll email them now and reference that link and see what they say. Thanks for the heads up.

  • tommytommy Member

    ahnames much cheaper :)

  • @tommy said:
    ahnames much cheaper :)

    That's where I just bought one.

    Thanks to everyone for responding. You guys always answer my questions.

  • @neroux said:
    The question was specifically about a Russian passport and there are no requirements as for a Russian citizenship for either of both domains.

    Which is exactly what I said...

  • @alfieyeoman said:
    Which is exactly what I said...

    You phrased it as a question.

  • So the "solution" is to trust some shady straw man service? Unless the registrant does it for the actual shadiness itself that doesn't really seem like an overly sensible solution at all.

  • HOSTCAYHOSTCAY Member, Host Rep

    Registering .ru and .su domains generally requires a passport. Some providers may register the domain under their own or their company's data to avoid asking the registrant for documents, which is why they don’t need to provide a passport scan initially. For those providers that do require a passport, the registry typically doesn't ask for it at the time of registration. Instead, about a year after the registration date, you will receive an email from Nic.ru requesting ID verification, or the domain will be suspended.

    Therefore, if your domain is registered under your name, whether you are a national or a foreigner, and you haven't been asked for ID, expect a request for it a year after the domain's registration. This delayed request is due to the fact that many users do not actively use their domains. The registry will follow up just before renewal.

    From experience reselling numerous Soviet domains, be prepared for the registry to ask for additional pictures or videos of your passport scans, as a single fake passport scan will not suffice. Alternatively, you can register using a corporation instead of a personal passport, as they only require a company certificate, which doesn’t need to be translated or notarized.

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  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @totally_not_banned said:

    So the "solution" is to trust some shady straw man service? Unless the registrant does it for the actual shadiness itself that doesn't really seem like an overly sensible solution at all.

    Except abusers ordinary people also may need this. Because give personal data even to trusted companies is dangeous now. Lot of leaked personal data confirm that.

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  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    Holy necro, Batman

    Congrats on your first post since February 2023

    Thanked by 2sillycat Voltrina
  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    Wow, really, topic dated Feb 2014:)

  • edited July 2024

    @rustelekom said:

    @totally_not_banned said:

    So the "solution" is to trust some shady straw man service? Unless the registrant does it for the actual shadiness itself that doesn't really seem like an overly sensible solution at all.

    Except abusers ordinary people also may need this. Because give personal data even to trusted companies is dangeous now. Lot of leaked personal data confirm that.

    Sure, but who would be more trustworthy in that regard? An actual registrar and the registry itself or some random domain trustee service? Even if i personally wouldn't give either the registrar/registry my passport data or use a trustee service i'd say it's the former and the second option also always comes with the risk of loosing the domain if the service operators decide to rather take the domain for themself. What recurse would you really have? The domain isn't registered in your name after all. While i absolutely love whois privacy i'd never use any of the various trustee services without a very good reason.

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  • VoltrinaVoltrina Member
    edited July 2024

    That "xUID" service listed at the bottom of the post glows in the dark more than anything i have seen in quite a while. They openly advertise that they allow "phishing, botnets, scampages and spam".

    There is no way that this isn't a honeypot by law enforcement or some fly-by night operation by a group of kids.

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @totally_not_banned said:
    Sure, but who would be more trustworthy in that regard? An actual registrar and the registry itself or some random domain trustee service? Even if i personally wouldn't give either the registrar/registry my passport data or use a trustee service i'd say it's the former and the second option also always comes with the risk of loosing the domain if the service operators decide to rather take the domain for themself. What recurse would you really have? The domain isn't registered in your name after all. While i absolutely love whois privacy i'd never use any of the various trustee services without a very good reason.

    Legally registered services can be trusted. However, due to the large amount of leaked data, customers will often refuse to comply with KYC requests.
    This is a big problem for providers who want to offer anything to customers. Because they have to request verification from the state for customers using the KYC procedure.

    We have working options for Russian citizens, but they are restricted and costly (for providers). However, theoretically, this could be a solution. Since customers do not need to host personal data, and the hoster does not need them in this case, the host only uses a unique token provided by the customer and generated for each account, which is verified by the state registry. In this way, all requirements are met, and customer private data is safe and stored only in one place - the state registry.

    Work in the same way as 2-way authorization. Of customer must have account in state registry but in Russia most of people already has it. Foreigners who live in Russia temporarily or permanently may also register an account with the state registry.

  • titustitus Member
    edited July 2024

    About 10 years ago I registered some ".ru" domain names with a russian reseller company. They accepted my ID card data (it has been issued by the local government). Maybe I was lucky only, or I don't know. When I transfered them to another registrar some years ago, they also accepted my ID card data without problems. (PS: I provided always official, VALID data). For "transfer code" they asked a photo from the ID card / passport. Probably they accept any official ID card issued by governments, but if you have a passport, it's better to use it for the registrations.

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