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avoro network packet loss

0ka0ka Member

https://imgur.com/a/lPIpz5z today or a month ago it's the same
depending on the speed you can get loss almost every second, it's mostly inbound, and no, it's not because i overload the network by myself, it can handle 1gbit/s but i never exceed 100mbit/s
a good example for reference: https://imgur.com/a/nFdv81F

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  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    Did you open a ticket about it?

    Thanked by 1hyperblast
  • 0ka0ka Member
    edited June 2024

    @lukast__ yes, reported it for the first time 30 days ago, they basically said it looks fine from their side, 7 days ago i asked them to report it to their network engineer and im still waiting for a response.
    also it looks like today they blocked large ICMP packets >954(982) to some networks including my oracle vps which i used for testing
    https://imgur.com/a/MUd4Rvb

  • lirrrlirrr Member

    Try open the ticket and have them turn off the anti-ddos for your server ip

  • @lirrr said:
    Try open the ticket and have them turn off the anti-ddos for your server ip

    good idea. solves some problems with my vps too.

  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    @dataforest: You said:

    In addition, the customer can activate/deactivate DDoS protection in our interface at any time, so that the respective customer can always decide for themselves what they want or don't want.

    But that doesn't seem possible or where can I do that?
    And @0ka, ICMP isn't suited well for that, @dataforest said that they shape it, so it can be slow/get lost.

  • 0ka0ka Member
    edited June 2024

    @lirrr said: Try open the ticket and have them turn off the anti-ddos for your server ip

    they disabled it and large icmp now works fine, thanks. btw i didn't enable it by myself and didn't ask anything about it

  • 0ka0ka Member

    @lukast__ icmp/tcp/udp they all have loss, even after they disabled the protection, download speed fluctuates a lot right now in the evening (4-10mb/s)
    https://imgur.com/a/RRAS4OE

  • @0ka said:
    @lukast__ icmp/tcp/udp they all have loss, even after they disabled the protection, download speed fluctuates a lot right now in the evening (4-10mb/s)
    https://imgur.com/a/RRAS4OE

    eh... disable anti-ddos normaly takes 24h...

  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    @0ka said:
    @lukast__ icmp/tcp/udp they all have loss, even after they disabled the protection, download speed fluctuates a lot right now in the evening (4-10mb/s)
    https://imgur.com/a/RRAS4OE

    But that could also simply be peering.

  • 0ka0ka Member

    @hyperblast said: eh... disable anti-ddos normaly takes 24h...

    my smokeping with 1400 byte packets started right after i got a response from support
    https://imgur.com/a/qQwYu94

  • 0ka0ka Member
    edited June 2024

    @lukast__ said: But that could also simply be peering.

    mtr from oracle to avoro reports losses only on the last hop, mtr from avoro to anything reports losses on the first hop already (https://imgur.com/a/7SzAvSa). also my first screenshot of mtr was taken 10 days ago, the route looked like this then: oracle-twelve99-cdn77-synlinq-avoro, today it's like this: oracle-twelve99-gcore-zerolag-avoro (https://imgur.com/a/eN2gFLB) and loss is still there, it's something in their internal network, drivers or virtualization software

    udp: updated screenshots for better understanding

  • dataforestdataforest Member, Host Rep

    Hi,

    please note, that we cant offer support via Lowendtalk. I tested Oracle from our ansible: https://imgur.com/T1XEGVT - also (in your support ticket) there was 0,1 % loss on about 27000 packets, I dont know what it was, but it can also come from the filter which was disabled within 17 minutes today.

    Your VPS is currently on its own node, there is no other server on it, there are no malfunctions or general loss on our part. If there is a fundamental problem with routing (e.g. to Oracle), our support team will be happy to help and we will check whether the traffic can be rerouted, but with 0.1% loss at 22,000 packets, with the filter activated, I don't see any need for this. Especially as we are already seeing (see our screenshot) a 0.5% loss at Oracle.

    Thanked by 1maverick
  • 0ka0ka Member

    @dataforest thanks for responding, but it's not only oracle, even 1.1.1.1 is lossy, can you please test on your machine with this "wget -O /dev/null https://speedtest.selectel.ru/100MB"? the speed is very unstable ~8mb/s, it can reach 80mb/s on another vps providers

  • 0ka0ka Member

    @dataforest also i updated my post which is above yours, not sure you saw the updated version

  • dataforestdataforest Member, Host Rep

    @0ka said:
    @dataforest thanks for responding, but it's not only oracle, even 1.1.1.1 is lossy, can you please test on your machine with this "wget -O /dev/null https://speedtest.selectel.ru/100MB"? the speed is very unstable ~8mb/s, it can reach 80mb/s on another vps providers

    Of course:

    root@ansible: ~ # wget -O /dev/null https://speedtest.selectel.ru/100MB
    --2024-06-30 20:12:49-- https://speedtest.selectel.ru/100MB
    Auflösen des Hostnamen »speedtest.selectel.ru (speedtest.selectel.ru)«... 2a00:ab00:600:1::5, 188.93.16.211
    Verbindungsaufbau zu speedtest.selectel.ru (speedtest.selectel.ru)|2a00:ab00:600:1::5|:443... verbunden.
    HTTP-Anforderung gesendet, warte auf Antwort... 200 OK
    Länge: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    In »»/dev/null«« speichern.

    /dev/null 100%[==============================================================================================================================================>] 100,00M 38,6MB/s in 2,6s

  • dataforestdataforest Member, Host Rep
    edited June 2024

    I also installed a test VPS on the same node you are and run the MTR: https://imgur.com/a/6ppr8DB

  • 0ka0ka Member

    @dataforest you got a better result than i get right now https://imgur.com/a/H1ucgKI

  • 0ka0ka Member

    @dataforest i used this command for testing: "mtr -s 1472 -i 0.3 1.1.1.1"

  • dataforestdataforest Member, Host Rep

    We have a big peering with Cloudflare in FRA, It won't be more direct, the port is currently at 20% utilization, so everything is fine. The interconnect between the data center and Interxion (where the traffic arrives in this case) is also at 25%.

  • 0ka0ka Member
    edited June 2024

    @dataforest https://imgur.com/a/lOgYUVZ
    BTW BIG thumbs up for looking into this

    upd: my vm kernel panicked and locked up, reboot/stop/shutdown on the website return an error, this happened to me before and only tech support could reboot my vm

  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    @lukast__ said:
    @dataforest: You said:

    In addition, the customer can activate/deactivate DDoS protection in our interface at any time, so that the respective customer can always decide for themselves what they want or don't want.

    But that doesn't seem possible or where can I do that?

    @dataforest where is that interface you mentioned?

  • 0ka0ka Member
    edited June 2024

    @dataforest the closer to the night, the better the result.
    try this tomorrow on the node and in the vm at the same time, good luck and thanks.

    "sleep $((60 - $(date +%s) % 60)); while true; do echo -n $(date +%R); ping -W 1 -s 1472 -i 0.1 -c 600 1.1.1.1 | grep loss | awk -F',' '{print $3}'; done"
    https://imgur.com/a/dgAjquY
    it will wait for a new minute to start before doing measurements.

  • dataforestdataforest Member, Host Rep

    @0ka said:
    @dataforest the closer to the night, the better the result.
    try this tomorrow on the node and in the vm at the same time, good luck and thanks.

    "sleep $((60 - $(date +%s) % 60)); while true; do echo -n $(date +%R); ping -W 1 -s 1472 -i 0.1 -c 600 1.1.1.1 | grep loss | awk -F',' '{print $3}'; done"
    https://imgur.com/a/dgAjquY
    it will wait for a new minute to start before doing measurements.

    Hi,

    seems fine:

    root@ansible: ~ # sleep $((60 - $(date +%s) % 60)); while true; do echo -n $(date +%R); ping -W 1 -s 1472 -i 0.1 -c 600 1.1.1.1 | grep loss | awk -F',' '{print $3}'; done
    22:38 0% packet loss
    22:39 0% packet loss
    22:40 0% packet loss
    22:41 0% packet loss
    22:42 0% packet loss
    22:43 0% packet loss

    Traffic is at its highest level on our Cloudflare PNI - if you're not happy we can offer you a refund, for that please answer the ticket in our Control Panel :)

  • 0ka0ka Member

    @dataforest is this a different person? im not sure if you're reading my messages completely. The loss is present on any ip address, 1.1.1.1 and my screenshot above is just an example. Im almost happy and don't want a refund, you provide great services, but i want to help and resolve this issue.

    Can you set up an iperf3 server somewhere in your network? it may make it clearer to understand where the issue might be, with your report a few msgs above i can see that on the node itself the network works better.

    And can i have a direct contact with someone with access to the node?
    thanks

  • dataforestdataforest Member, Host Rep

    Hi,

    do you have Telegram? If yes you can contact me there, so we can check it together.

  • 0ka0ka Member
    edited July 2024

    i got a second test vm on the same node and this is really strange
    https://i.imgur.com/ZHsRgO7.png
    vm on the right has constant packet loss, anyone has a clue what's wrong? i did iperf from multiple sources and the result is the same

  • semanseman Member

    i have multiple problem with their network,dont waste time open the ticket

  • semanseman Member

    @dataforest said: if you're not happy we can offer you a refund

    this is classic of avoro textbook,it always customer problem,they wont admit the problem,they wont solve the problem
    hence,take your refund

  • xvpsxvps Member
    edited July 2024

    @0ka said:
    i got a second test vm on the same node and this is really strange
    https://i.imgur.com/ZHsRgO7.png
    vm on the right has constant packet loss, anyone has a clue what's wrong? i did iperf from multiple sources and the result is the same

    Rebuild the VPS and test again on the freshly installed OS.
    Take the refund and move on if the problem persists.

    Thanked by 1totally_not_banned
  • dataforestdataforest Member, Host Rep

    Hi,

    @seman said:
    i have multiple problem with their network,dont waste time open the ticket

    Ah, you are the guy which wrote:

    SPEEDTEST SHOW IP ADDRESS U STUPID FUCK

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