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Looking for Bare Metal Providers in US/EU with Optimized Singapore and Sydney Routes
Hello Community,
I am looking for advice on bare metal server providers in the US or EU that can offer optimized routing options for better connectivity between my origin and edge locations in Singapore and Sydney. Currently, I am using Leaseweb for our origin server in the EU, but I am facing significant issues with high latency and disrupted video streams when connecting to my bare metal edges in Singapore and Sydney. I have also tried OVH and Novoserve for Origin, but the problem persists.
I run a live video streaming service, which requires the transfer of approximately 50Mbps (approx. 20 HLS video streams) from the origin to each edge location. The connection to London and New York edges is stable, but the high latency and ping rates to Singapore and Sydney Edges result in the loss of video chunks, leading to buffering issues for users being served from these locations.
Can you suggest any providers in the US or EU that offer a direct connection or optimized routing to data centers in Singapore or Sydney?
P.S: For edges in Singapore, I have tried Leaseweb, PheonixNAP and OVH. And for Sydney, I have tried Leaseweb and Singapore.
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Try our Los Angeles location. We have direct peering with a tremendous amount of Asia Pacific ISPs.
Test IPs: https://www.reliablesite.net/network/
Inventory: https://www.reliablesite.net/dedicated-servers/los-angeles-dedicated-servers.aspx
We offer unmetered bandwidth.
Hi,
I think we can help out
If you are willing to pay the price, Datapacket is the way to go.
Hey,
Please check out our [Crunchbits] looking glass, and if the routes suit you, DM me, and I'll quote you for a server. We are located in Spokane, WA.
LG Link here: https://crunchbits.com/network/lg
Hi,
There is a link in my sig to our latest offer in Sydney if you'd like to try a different edge location.
Part of the issue at the moment is EU<>APAC traffic has taken a big hit due to multiple cable outages in the Gulf of Aden. With the current geopolitical issues going on in that area it's unlikely these cables will be repaired quickly.
RETN has some good EU <=> APAC routes, as well as HE.
If you control servers on both ends, you might want to get a server with connectivity through one of those.
Typically you want to do US West coast for this purpose though.
Get a decent server in Frankfurt, will do the Job usually.
Maybe you need to get a bunch and mesh them together.
Hi,
Thank you for the information about your Los Angeles location and the direct peering with ISPs in the Asia Pacific region.
Could you please provide a link to your looking glass so I can run traceroute/MTR tests? This will help me further evaluate the connectivity and performance.
Thank you!
Hi,
Thank you for the suggestion about setting up servers in Frankfurt. I've tried a few providers there, including Hetzner, OVH, and Leaseweb DE, but unfortunately, I've faced challenges with connectivity to the APAC region, particularly for live video applications.
Do you have any premium providers in mind that are known for premium networks in this aspect?
Thanks for your help!
Hi,
Thanks for pointing out RETN and their "The Eurasian Network" capabilities, which seems exactly what I need for my requirements. Do you have any particular providers in the EU in mind that utilize RETN as their upstream provider?
I appreciate your guidance on this!
Best regards,
Hi,
Thanks for the info about the Sydney offer and the heads-up on the cable outages in the Gulf of Aden. That explains a lot, though I've been having issues with EU Origin to APAC Edges traffic since the start of my project (about 1 year now).
Hi,
Thanks for the recommendation! I haven't tried Datapacket yet, but I did run a few tests using their looking glass, and the results seemed similar to other providers I've used. Based on your suggestion and others, it sounds like getting some physical bare metal servers with them might give a better indication of real-world performance. I'll consider setting that up to see how it goes.
Hi,
Could you provide some more details about your network? Also, could you share a link to your looking glass if possible?
Thanks again!
We utilize RETN in both of our BG and DE locations, maybe check latency out:
https://lgbg.alphavps.com/
https://lgde.alphavps.com/
I have like 5 servers in Frankfurt alone.
Different ISP's and Upstreams.
My SG has been stable, because its going via my mesh vpn.
The route can change often.
Greencloud Frankfurt seems to be doing the job right now.
Sometimes it Avoro or others.
The Euroasian Network or TransKZ ends up in HK and goes via Russia.
Means you need a Server in Hong Kong and a Server either in Russia or Europe, to make all the traffic use that route, you have the control booth ends.
https://www.misaka.io/ has a optimized TranskZ route from Europe/Russia to Hong Kong.
Costly though, especially if you streaming.
However, its quite solid.
Your best bet, is probably buy a bunch of servers in Frankfurt and Singapore and find the best connection, connect your Singapore Edge to that.
Thanks for LG links. Given that you're using RETN fin both BG and DE, I've been running some MTR tests to our Singapore edge Test IP at 103.172.116.3 using the Looking Glass links you provided:
From BG
From DE
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Could you advise which location might be more optimal for our needs, BG or DE, based on the test results? Thank you!
Given the results, I'd say that Sofia is the better option for this. It's 30% lower latency.
Send me a DM, I'll be glad to help you out.
A lot of users say our routes are very good to oddest places.
Latency is just one metric.
You'll want low retransmit events mostly, even some jitter doesn't matter.
TCP retransmits are essentially congestion, and will not report as packet loss, but will reset the transfer window.
Easiest way to test for this is iperf3 -- it shows the retry counts (retransmit events).
MTR for 10 packets is too little as well, should do 1 000 minimum. Regardless, i did only for 100:
Doesn't look too good of an route. StDev is very good tho.
But ultimately, latency only affects maximum transfer rate (given typical MSS/MTU etc. settings). Only actual iperf3 run will show the real results for transfers.
You should also look into adding ~1-3seconds of caching.
Here's our thorough network diagnostics page:
https://wiki.pulsedmedia.com/index.php/Network_Diagnostics
HE is a good call.
It looks like hosts that have direct connection to HE does have lower latency to OP's Singapore Edge server.
This is what I got using Terrahost's Looking Glass with their Amsterdam server
You may notice many different kinds of web hosting providers and all of them are top of their quality.
We have 160 ms to your mentioned 103.172.116.3 in AMS via HE, and 190ms in Seattle via GTT