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  • What location? Any YABS?

  • i mean no hate but as a developer i can't take your post seriously. i expect you to flex some cpu power not your internet speed.

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  • @TheGreatOakley said: What location? Any YABS?

    Hello, we are currently on London and we'll extend to the US soon.

    @theraw said: i mean no hate but as a developer i can't take your post seriously. i expect you to flex some cpu power not your internet speed.

    Hello Theraw, we use 3.10 GHz CPU which is suitable for small to medium applications and websites. You can get up to 8 cores. If you need more than that, mostly you're deploying an enterprise app and you'll need to buy a dedicated server for a better performance, which we don't offer ATM.

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  • @yoursunny said:
    No IPv6 hall of shame

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    Include IPv6 for no extra cost on every plan in every location to get delisted.

    You should really correct that name "ColonCrossing"... Unless ColoCrossing wants their colon crossing.

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  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited February 2024

    Hall of blackmailing attempt shame:

    @yoursunny - repeatedly trying to push over providers to offer/use/support IPv6

    "Include IPv6 for no extra cost on every plan in every location to get delisted." clearly is a blackmail attempt.

    (If anyone likes IPv6, no problem at all, just find and use providers offering it or ask them politely to consider IPv6.. But do not try to blackmail providers into it!)

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  • @jsg said: Hall of blackmailing attempt shame:

    @yoursunny - repeatedly trying to push over providers to offer/use/support IPv6

    "Include IPv6 for no extra cost on every plan in every location to get delisted." clearly is a blackmail attempt.

    (If anyone likes IPv6, no problem at all, just find and use providers offering it or ask them politely to consider IPv6.. But do not try to blackmail providers into it!)

    I agree with you.

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  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    @jsg said: Hall of blackmailing attempt shame:

    @yoursunny - repeatedly trying to push over providers to offer/use/support IPv6

    "Include IPv6 for no extra cost on every plan in every location to get delisted." clearly is a blackmail attempt.

    Is it?

    To quote Wikipedia:

    Blackmail is an act of coercion using a threat.

    I personally don't see a threat - is it a threat to let other people know sth. about an offer? - and it can be helpful.
    I would say that it is an information for the provider, and not a blackmail attempt.
    I think that if a providers doesn't offer IPv6, they should say that, and then it would have no disadvantage for them that potential customers read that list.
    And @yoursunny isn't forcing them to add IPv6 - he is simply informing others that the providers on that list don't have IPv6.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @lukast__ said:

    @jsg said: Hall of blackmailing attempt shame:

    @yoursunny - repeatedly trying to push over providers to offer/use/support IPv6

    "Include IPv6 for no extra cost on every plan in every location to get delisted." clearly is a blackmail attempt.

    Is it?

    To quote Wikipedia:

    Blackmail is an act of coercion using a threat.

    I personally don't see a threat - is it a threat to let other people know sth. about an offer? - and it can be helpful.
    I would say that it is an information for the provider, and not a blackmail attempt.
    I think that if a providers doesn't offer IPv6, they should say that, and then it would have no disadvantage for them that potential customers read that list.
    And @yoursunny isn't forcing them to add IPv6 - he is simply informing others that the providers on that list don't have IPv6.

    Sorry, but (a) wikipedia is a rotten organization and not a reference, and (b) "Do what I want or you'll stay on the list", especially when said list is expressly meant to harm "non-complying" providers is blackmailing.

    And now go and ask for your IPv6 zealot tag ...

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  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad
    edited February 2024

    @jsg said: Sorry, but (a) wikipedia is a rotten organization and not a reference, and (b) "Do what I want or you'll stay on the list", especially when said list is expressly meant to harm "non-complying" providers is blackmailing.

    About wikipedia you could be right, regrettably...
    But I would still say that the list doesn't harm (and is not meant to, although that only knows @yoursunny ) providers, as it is only informing potential customers. If a company doesn't have IPv6, they can (in my opinion) only be harmed by that list if they are presenting it as if they have IPv6, which would be fraudulent, and is mostly not the case.

    And now go and ask for your IPv6 zealot tag ...

    I personally don't even have IPv6 at home, and doesn't support it in most of my software...

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited February 2024

    @lukast__ said:

    @jsg said: Sorry, but (a) wikipedia is a rotten organization and not a reference, and (b) "Do what I want or you'll stay on the list", especially when said list is expressly meant to harm "non-complying" providers is blackmailing.

    About wikipedia you could be right, regrettably...
    But I would still say that the list doesn't harm (and is not meant to, although that only knows @yoursunny ) providers, as it is only informing potential customers.

    Nope. If his goal were simply to inform he wouldn't call it "hall of shame" which clearly implies something of significant negativity. Also see the following point ...

    If a company doesn't have IPv6, they can (in my opinion) only be harmed by that list if they are presenting it as if they have IPv6, which would be fraudulent, and is mostly not the case.

    But that's not what his list is about, it's generally about providers not offering IPv6, I quote, "on every plan in every location" (no matter the reasons and circumstances).
    Also, re the last point, putting that as a condition to get off the list clearly shows that he himself sees his "hall of shame" - matching its name - as some major minus for a provider

    Finally, NO, it's not about cheating providers. His goal is to zealously force, as best he can, every provider to offer IPv6, I quote again, "on every plan in every location".

    Also: Nope, he can, and possibly wants to harm every provider who doesn't comply by blackmailing. Simple mechanism: Quite many users/potential customers do not look and research closely, plus many follow the "sieve" principle that is, to exclude every offer and/or provider with any negative indicators. That's how he actually succeeds to create damage and to push providers to support IPv6

    Now think! Does one really need to push and blackmail people into something if that something really is good? No, one does not. Pushing and blackmailing is needed only when one wants to get people into something they do not like/want.
    And indeed, surprise, surprise, IPv6 has been promising to take over the internet since multiple decades - yet it did consistently fail to achieve that goal.

    So they use other means. If luring and convincing people fails, zealots go hardcore and resort to e.g. blackmail. After all, their goal is not to see people happy and with an actually better service - nope, their goal is to push IPv6 on the world whether we like it nor not.

    And now go and ask for your IPv6 zealot tag ...

    I personally don't even have IPv6 at home, and doesn't support it in most of my software...

    So, I seem to have gotten a wrong impression. I apologize for that. Sorry.

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  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @jsg said:

    @lukast__ said:

    @jsg said: Sorry, but (a) wikipedia is a rotten organization and not a reference, and (b) "Do what I want or you'll stay on the list", especially when said list is expressly meant to harm "non-complying" providers is blackmailing.

    About wikipedia you could be right, regrettably...
    But I would still say that the list doesn't harm (and is not meant to, although that only knows @yoursunny ) providers, as it is only informing potential customers.

    Nope. If his goal were simply to inform he wouldn't call it "hall of shame" which clearly implies something of significant negativity. Also see the following point ...

    If a company doesn't have IPv6, they can (in my opinion) only be harmed by that list if they are presenting it as if they have IPv6, which would be fraudulent, and is mostly not the case.

    But that's not what his list is about, it's generally about providers not offering IPv6, I quote, "on every plan in every location" (no matter the reasons and circumstances).
    Also, re the last point, putting that as a condition to get off the list clearly shows that he himself sees his "hall of shame" - matching its name - as some major minus for a provider

    Finally, NO, it's not about cheating providers. His goal is to zealously force, as best he can, every provider to offer IPv6, I quote again, "on every plan in every location".

    Also: Nope, he can, and possibly wants to harm every provider who doesn't comply by blackmailing. Simple mechanism: Quite many users/potential customers do not look and research closely, plus many follow the "sieve" principle that is, to exclude every offer and/or provider with any negative indicators. That's how he actually succeeds to create damage and to push providers to support IPv6

    Now think! Does one really need to push and blackmail people into something if that something really is good? No, one does not. Pushing and blackmailing is needed only when one wants to get people into something they do not like/want.
    And indeed, surprise, surprise, IPv6 has been promising to take over the internet since multiple decades - yet it did consistently fail to achieve that goal.

    So they use other means. If luring and convincing people fails, zealots go hardcore and resort to e.g. blackmail. After all, their goal is not to see people happy and with an actually better service - nope, their goal is to push IPv6 on the world whether we like it nor not.

    And now go and ask for your IPv6 zealot tag ...

    I personally don't even have IPv6 at home, and doesn't support it in most of my software...

    So, I seem to have gotten a wrong impression. I apologize for that. Sorry.

    Lol.

    If you feel so threatened take it to the forum mods. Right now it seems apart from you no one feels threatened in any way whatsoever.

    Feel free to open a new thread and stop derailing the current one to discuss the threat and harm you believe yoursunny is causing.

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  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @plumberg said:
    Lol.

    If you feel so threatened take it to the forum mods. Right now it seems apart from you no one feels threatened in any way whatsoever.

    OP said

    @0x054m4 said:

    @jsg said: Hall of blackmailing attempt shame:

    @yoursunny - repeatedly trying to push over providers to offer/use/support IPv6

    "Include IPv6 for no extra cost on every plan in every location to get delisted." clearly is a blackmail attempt.

    (If anyone likes IPv6, no problem at all, just find and use providers offering it or ask them politely to consider IPv6.. But do not try to blackmail providers into it!)

    I agree with you.

    Thanks anyway. You tried. Have a nice week.

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  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    @jsg said: Nope. If his goal were simply to inform he wouldn't call it "hall of shame" which clearly implies something of significant negativity.

    That's true.

    @jsg said: But that's not what his list is about, it's generally about providers not offering IPv6, I quote, "on every plan in every location" (no matter the reasons and circumstances).
    Also, re the last point, putting that as a condition to get off the list clearly shows that he himself sees his "hall of shame" - matching its name - as some major minus for a provider

    I didn't consider it from that perspective. Indeed I would think that for example a provider offering paid IPv6 should not be on that list.

    @jsg said: Also: Nope, he can, and possibly wants to harm every provider who doesn't comply by blackmailing. Simple mechanism: Quite many users/potential customer do not look and research closely, plus many follow the "sieve" principle that is, to exclude every offer and/or provider with any negative indicators. That's how he actually succeeds to create damage and to push providers to support IPv6

    Interesting, I didn't think about it, I usually don't disregard a product just because it has one disadvantage, but I can certainly imagine that there are (many) such people.

    @jsg said: So they use other means. If convincing people fails, zealots go hardcore and resort to e.g. blackmail. After all, their goal is not to see people happy and with an actually better service - nope, their goal is to push IPv6 on the world whether we like it nor not.

    Unfortunately I can't judge that.

    I can now (at least a bit) understand your perspective, but I think that it would still be acceptable to create a (non-judgemental) list of providers without IPv6 support (maybe not in every thread of such providers).

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