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[LF] OVH Germany/France old deals

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  • @Calin said: I am willing to buy all his assets

    Where will you get the money? You still haven't paid off your previous debt. Or do you offer him 100 euros per month for the next 10 years?

  • @bench said:

    @Calin said: I am willing to buy all his assets

    Where will you get the money? You still haven't paid off your previous debt. Or do you offer him 100 euros per month for the next 10 years?

    Instalments is the answer. 50€/month for 30 years or until insolvency.

  • @stefeman said:

    @Wicked said:
    Just get a real job, Florin. This industry is not for you..

    I like how Calin liked this post. Dude is probly just enjoying the dumpster fire.

    Getting rid of competition

  • edited January 2024

    This thread is somewhere between crazy and sad. As a handful of other people i kind of supported the DIY idea as it's not only a pretty cool thing to do but also gives one at the very least some distinction in this very much oversaturated market. Basically canceling the whole thing at the first couple roadbumps just to move to some absolutely generic approach seems full on pointless though. Not only will it burn the whole investment but also not provide any viable way forward. Like i've said, it's somewhere between crazy and sad...

  • guys do no exaggerate with HAZI-SOLUTIONS value... the number of 100 or 50€ instalments is easy to count on fingers not in years :)

  • @Andrews said:
    guys do no exaggerate with HAZI-SOLUTIONS value... the number of 100 or 50€ instalments is easy to count on fingers not in years :)

    Hazi took loan for servers, solar energy and contracts for bandwidth. Afaik 20 or 10 000€. So at least that amount is worth.

  • AndrewsAndrews Member
    edited January 2024

    @Levi said:

    @Andrews said:
    guys do no exaggerate with HAZI-SOLUTIONS value... the number of 100 or 50€ instalments is easy to count on fingers not in years :)

    Hazi took loan for servers, solar energy and contracts for bandwidth. Afaik 20 or 10 000€. So at least that amount is worth.

    market value is determined by how much somebody is willing to pay for it, not by how much somebody clueless burnt money in it, and especially if it is completely not needed for this business (like PV in shithole location or home link not suitable for business purposes)

    Thanked by 1cybertech
  • @Levi said:

    @Andrews said:
    guys do no exaggerate with HAZI-SOLUTIONS value... the number of 100 or 50€ instalments is easy to count on fingers not in years :)

    Hazi took loan for servers, solar energy and contracts for bandwidth. Afaik 20 or 10 000€. So at least that amount is worth.

    What about them guard dogs?

  • @dosai said:

    @Levi said:

    @Andrews said:
    guys do no exaggerate with HAZI-SOLUTIONS value... the number of 100 or 50€ instalments is easy to count on fingers not in years :)

    Hazi took loan for servers, solar energy and contracts for bandwidth. Afaik 20 or 10 000€. So at least that amount is worth.

    What about them guard dogs?

    starved to death long time ago (old dogs can't live long when eating on weekly basis when their master run away to gf)

    Thanked by 2Calin MrRetslav
  • @cybertech said:

    @Calin said:
    I contacted FlorinMarian in PM, and I made him a cheap colocation offer, at our new data center, cogent network, port speed 1 Gbps dedicated per server, cogent network, generators and UPS, and most importantly a contract for only 3 months, in order to have time to solve his problems at his home, he did not accept...

    I really don't know why he keeps posting all the problems if he doesn't want any solution to them

    If ever FlorinMarian is no longer able to pay his bills, I am willing to buy all his assets :open_mouth:

    including his database right

    Calin will hire him, and he will be making patchcords for him on the night shift, as Calin will soon experience rapid increase in the number of his clients, when he finally aquire the second, missing part of legendary cociu customers database from HAZI-SOLUTIONS

    in dark times, cociu split it in half, and sold it to these romanian brothers, one got first half (only first names), and other one got second half (with surenames), and now when Calin will buy it from deadpooled broher, it will be complete, ONE CUSTOMERS DATABASE TO RULE THEM ALL

  • LeviLevi Member
    edited January 2024

    @Andrews said:

    @cybertech said:

    @Calin said:
    I contacted FlorinMarian in PM, and I made him a cheap colocation offer, at our new data center, cogent network, port speed 1 Gbps dedicated per server, cogent network, generators and UPS, and most importantly a contract for only 3 months, in order to have time to solve his problems at his home, he did not accept...

    I really don't know why he keeps posting all the problems if he doesn't want any solution to them

    If ever FlorinMarian is no longer able to pay his bills, I am willing to buy all his assets :open_mouth:

    including his database right

    Calin will hire him, and he will be making patchcords for him on the night shift, as Calin will soon experience rapid increase in the number of his clients, when he finally aquire the second, missing part of legendary cociu customers database from HAZI-SOLUTIONS

    in dark times, cociu split it in half, and sold it to these romanian brothers, one got first half (only first names), and other one got second half (with surenames), and now when Calin will buy it from deadpooled broher, it will be complete, ONE CUSTOMERS DATABASE TO RULE THEM ALL

    That would be a good anime plot for anthology series.

    1. The rise and fall of borta emporium (perfumed armani VPS);
    2. The birth of calin and his cave carving with bare hands;
    3. From another dimension flirin apears and starts rivalry against calin with his dog as sidekick;
    4. The battle begins. Calin goes with free dmca offers and patiently waits for RO police raid. Florin goes woth best effort DDoS protection and DDoS'ed to shreds by skids for the lulz;

    So far 4 seasons released. Director Genddy Tartakowsky.

  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @Levi said:

    @Andrews said:

    @cybertech said:

    @Calin said:
    I contacted FlorinMarian in PM, and I made him a cheap colocation offer, at our new data center, cogent network, port speed 1 Gbps dedicated per server, cogent network, generators and UPS, and most importantly a contract for only 3 months, in order to have time to solve his problems at his home, he did not accept...

    I really don't know why he keeps posting all the problems if he doesn't want any solution to them

    If ever FlorinMarian is no longer able to pay his bills, I am willing to buy all his assets :open_mouth:

    including his database right

    Calin will hire him, and he will be making patchcords for him on the night shift, as Calin will soon experience rapid increase in the number of his clients, when he finally aquire the second, missing part of legendary cociu customers database from HAZI-SOLUTIONS

    in dark times, cociu split it in half, and sold it to these romanian brothers, one got first half (only first names), and other one got second half (with surenames), and now when Calin will buy it from deadpooled broher, it will be complete, ONE CUSTOMERS DATABASE TO RULE THEM ALL

    That would be a good anime plot for anthology series.

    1. The rise and fall of borta emporium (perfumed armani VPS);
    2. The birth of calin and his cave carving with bare hands;
    3. From another dimension flirin apears and starts rivalry against calin with his dog as sidekick;
    4. The battle begins. Calin goes with free dmca offers and patiently waits for RO police raid. Florin goes woth best effort DDoS protection and DDoS'ed to shreds by skids for the lulz;

    So far 4 season released. Director Genddy Tartakowsky.

    So in fifth season we should be prepared for RO police raid?

  • @tentor said:

    @Levi said:

    @Andrews said:

    @cybertech said:

    @Calin said:
    I contacted FlorinMarian in PM, and I made him a cheap colocation offer, at our new data center, cogent network, port speed 1 Gbps dedicated per server, cogent network, generators and UPS, and most importantly a contract for only 3 months, in order to have time to solve his problems at his home, he did not accept...

    I really don't know why he keeps posting all the problems if he doesn't want any solution to them

    If ever FlorinMarian is no longer able to pay his bills, I am willing to buy all his assets :open_mouth:

    including his database right

    Calin will hire him, and he will be making patchcords for him on the night shift, as Calin will soon experience rapid increase in the number of his clients, when he finally aquire the second, missing part of legendary cociu customers database from HAZI-SOLUTIONS

    in dark times, cociu split it in half, and sold it to these romanian brothers, one got first half (only first names), and other one got second half (with surenames), and now when Calin will buy it from deadpooled broher, it will be complete, ONE CUSTOMERS DATABASE TO RULE THEM ALL

    That would be a good anime plot for anthology series.

    1. The rise and fall of borta emporium (perfumed armani VPS);
    2. The birth of calin and his cave carving with bare hands;
    3. From another dimension flirin apears and starts rivalry against calin with his dog as sidekick;
    4. The battle begins. Calin goes with free dmca offers and patiently waits for RO police raid. Florin goes woth best effort DDoS protection and DDoS'ed to shreds by skids for the lulz;

    So far 4 season released. Director Genddy Tartakowsky.

    So in fifth season we should be prepared for RO police raid?

    At least we should have some resolution from ddos incident and info about installments. That info could be suplied by crunchy maister. Police raids and olx.ro postings will go to season 8 finale.

    Thanked by 2host_c Andreix
  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad
    edited January 2024

    :D no comment. :D

  • AndrewsAndrews Member
    edited January 2024

    @Levi said:

    @Andrews said:

    @cybertech said:

    @Calin said:
    I contacted FlorinMarian in PM, and I made him a cheap colocation offer, at our new data center, cogent network, port speed 1 Gbps dedicated per server, cogent network, generators and UPS, and most importantly a contract for only 3 months, in order to have time to solve his problems at his home, he did not accept...

    I really don't know why he keeps posting all the problems if he doesn't want any solution to them

    If ever FlorinMarian is no longer able to pay his bills, I am willing to buy all his assets :open_mouth:

    including his database right

    Calin will hire him, and he will be making patchcords for him on the night shift, as Calin will soon experience rapid increase in the number of his clients, when he finally aquire the second, missing part of legendary cociu customers database from HAZI-SOLUTIONS

    in dark times, cociu split it in half, and sold it to these romanian brothers, one got first half (only first names), and other one got second half (with surenames), and now when Calin will buy it from deadpooled broher, it will be complete, ONE CUSTOMERS DATABASE TO RULE THEM ALL

    That would be a good anime plot for anthology series.

    1. The rise and fall of borta emporium (perfumed armani VPS);
    2. The birth of calin and his cave carving with bare hands;
    3. From another dimension flirin apears and starts rivalry against calin with his dog as sidekick;
    4. The battle begins. Calin goes with free dmca offers and patiently waits for RO police raid. Florin goes woth best effort DDoS protection and DDoS'ed to shreds by skids for the lulz;

    So far 4 seasons released. Director Genddy Tartakowsky.

    1. nazi had a love affair on the side, and he cheated on the sunny boy, and when sunny boy found out that his beloved one abandoned his precious state of the art data center to satisfy his lust, he got sad and angry, and he orchestrated IPv9 DDoS attack, blend of technology not know to human kind yet, with geoip tracks far beyond our galaxy, impossible to stop even by greatest Transylvanian scientists not to mention ordinary Orange consultants.

    ...to be continued later after short commercial break

    and at the end of mentioned season 8 finale, there will be revealed the true brand name rising like Phoenix from the ashes, combining all three players of romanian gang (perfume father and two unholly b***rds):

    I Hazi conARTist SOLUTIONS.ro

    Thanked by 1kenwong
  • I'm mostly enjoying my popcorn on my own lurking the threads. It's absolutely insane what happened with this host up to this point.
    Asking for advice if it's a good idea to host in his own home, everyone tells him no.

    He does it anyway because he knows better than the numerous users with way higher expertise than him. It somehow even works for a handful of months. I came to the conclusion, yes maybe he can pull through against all difficulties.

    Then the ddos happened and if his face wasn't already showing from his basement project, now it really showed. A smug individual with no shame sending his customers down the drain because he can't take any advice. An absolute expert in his field because he wrote a 30 pages bachelor thesis.
    The 10k or been it 20k€? Are long forgotten, poured down the drain by bad decisions. His parents now life in a home with a sever farm melting their chocolate Santa's while he fucks off with his gf. Basically giving no fuck about his "beloved" project and writing it off.

    Now the cherry on top is him begging for OVH deals. I would be so fucking ashamed that I probably request my account to be delete if this ever happened to me.
    Anyway because I think it's mean to wish you the least of luck with your journey, I will just wish that you come to the conclusion that you fucked up big time and maybe have the dignity to end this whole mess. There is nothing that could safe your face this time. Thanks for reading, I will continue to lurk now.

    PS: No one should do any form of business with this individual.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    Capitalism is ruthless😆

    Thanked by 1Calin
  • definitely not one of the recommended providers on this forum :D

    Thanked by 1cybertech
  • @buddermilch said:
    I'm mostly enjoying my popcorn on my own lurking the threads. It's absolutely insane what happened with this host up to this point.
    Asking for advice if it's a good idea to host in his own home, everyone tells him no.

    He does it anyway because he knows better than the numerous users with way higher expertise than him. It somehow even works for a handful of months. I came to the conclusion, yes maybe he can pull through against all difficulties.

    Then the ddos happened and if his face wasn't already showing from his basement project, now it really showed. A smug individual with no shame sending his customers down the drain because he can't take any advice. An absolute expert in his field because he wrote a 30 pages bachelor thesis.
    The 10k or been it 20k€? Are long forgotten, poured down the drain by bad decisions. His parents now life in a home with a sever farm melting their chocolate Santa's while he fucks off with his gf. Basically giving no fuck about his "beloved" project and writing it off.

    Now the cherry on top is him begging for OVH deals. I would be so fucking ashamed that I probably request my account to be delete if this ever happened to me.
    Anyway because I think it's mean to wish you the least of luck with your journey, I will just wish that you come to the conclusion that you fucked up big time and maybe have the dignity to end this whole mess. There is nothing that could safe your face this time. Thanks for reading, I will continue to lurk now.

    PS: No one should do any form of business with this individual.

    I also think it's time to close my friend, in either way what you decide if you decide to go trough please start another company with another name because it's not possible to build a brand again if it's to much fucked. I wish you all the best but think good before you make another disicion.

    Thanked by 2cybertech Sululu
  • dataforestdataforest Member, Host Rep

    Well, in the end it would be too easy to set up a DDoS GRE tunnel to filter the attacks, it doesn't cost the earth and there are many providers (including us) who do this every day with several hundred GBit/s. Whether it's smart to move to OVH, where in my opinion you can even attack internally, remains to be seen, but simply running a home DC without external protection for volumetric attacks is really a case in itself.

  • hyena56hyena56 Member
    edited January 2024

    @PHP_Friends said:
    Well, in the end it would be too easy to set up a DDoS GRE tunnel to filter the attacks, it doesn't cost the earth and there are many providers (including us) who do this every day with several hundred GBit/s. Whether it's smart to move to OVH, where in my opinion you can even attack internally, remains to be seen, but simply running a home DC without external protection for volumetric attacks is really a case in itself.

    Yup, but unfortunately he was too fond of himself, despite the odds and the warnings he still continues the home DC. Doesn't listen to the "OG's" hope this be a lesson to the man though. Gotta credit for the guts, but a minus for the incompetency

    Thanked by 1cybertech
  • Can someone write him a fat check and close this "side project for good"?

  • FlorinMarianFlorinMarian Member, Host Rep
    edited January 2024

    Now I really feel like I'm in a silly movie:

    • the only two providers on the forum that I would never do business with offer to colocate or resell their dedicates, not OVH's;
    • my direct competitor doesn't hesitate to gloat in public while in bigger shit than me (1Gbps);
    • The haters who have been haters from the start have kept their position, it surprises no one. Even if this thread had been about a success of ours instead of a trouble, they would still be haters, finding a good reason to keep their opinions;
    • I want to give my customers at least as good a choice as the old one by choosing a provider I can rely on in what I know/need to do and most customers are against it, as well as those who have no experience with our business. I sent yesterday a mail to customers about the available options and surprisingly, more than 80% of them want to wait until the situation returns to normal in Romania, they don't want the quick migration to Germany or the forced migration to France after OVH comes with BYOIP;
    • Also on the principle of hater and those who have nothing to do with our business, it's totally wrong to do OVH reselling (buy dedicated, sell VPS). Why? Isn't this a better option when you want to keep your monthly expenses under 1000 EUR?

    Someone recommended me Andy10Gbit but I will not accept such an option where I put at risk the data of my customers, not having ownership of the service.

    I will see what happens with Orange until OVH activates BYOIP.

    If Orange throws a contract forcing me to pay for that addon for 24 months, I will not sign it and will take all steps to cancel the contract in court (thanks @Andreix ). At the same time I had contacted the National Cyber Security Directorate and they were shocked that Orange couldn't do anything they proposed. This will be solid evidence in court.

    The HAZI.ro story goes on whether you like it or not.

    Thanked by 1xvps
  • @FlorinMarian said: The HAZI.ro story goes on whether you like it or not.

    Yes, it goes right to the dumpster. Take a note - you have 0 complaints here about downtime. Your customer simply does not care. This is massive indicator about how your business is doing. All that effort, all stress and trouble for nothing. No one cares.

  • @Levi said: All that effort, all stress and trouble for nothing. No one cares.

    You do.

    Thanked by 1totally_not_banned
  • FlorinMarianFlorinMarian Member, Host Rep

    @Levi said:

    @FlorinMarian said: The HAZI.ro story goes on whether you like it or not.

    Yes, it goes right to the dumpster. Take a note - you have 0 complaints here about downtime. Your customer simply does not care. This is massive indicator about how your business is doing. All that effort, all stress and trouble for nothing. No one cares.

    I don't share your POV.

  • @FlorinMarian said:

    @Levi said:

    @FlorinMarian said: The HAZI.ro story goes on whether you like it or not.

    Yes, it goes right to the dumpster. Take a note - you have 0 complaints here about downtime. Your customer simply does not care. This is massive indicator about how your business is doing. All that effort, all stress and trouble for nothing. No one cares.

    I don't share your POV.

    And main source of your clientele - this forum, is silent about the problem, which goes multiple days already.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited January 2024

    @FlorinMarian you said @Calin wasn’t your competitor as you’r bin a totally different league. Now, he is?

    Thanked by 1adly
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @Mumbly said:

    @Levi said: All that effort, all stress and trouble for nothing. No one cares.

    You do.

    His point was that no angry clients have shown up, I think.

    Thanked by 1Levi
  • FlorinMarianFlorinMarian Member, Host Rep

    @Levi said:

    @FlorinMarian said:

    @Levi said:

    @FlorinMarian said: The HAZI.ro story goes on whether you like it or not.

    Yes, it goes right to the dumpster. Take a note - you have 0 complaints here about downtime. Your customer simply does not care. This is massive indicator about how your business is doing. All that effort, all stress and trouble for nothing. No one cares.

    I don't share your POV.

    And main source of your clientele - this forum, is silent about the problem, which goes multiple days already.

    This is because those dissatisfied prefer to discuss through tickets and others understand the nature of the problem and the possible solutions.
    People knew what they were buying and this is reflected in their attitude when these kinds of problems hit us.
    We could very well have written 'State-of-the-art data center' without including other details and maybe the expectations of the clients were different.

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