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  • @hennaboy said: What counts as spam? As I'm just here chatting and nothing is really relevant to RN

    in my humble opinion posting random crap like welcome to page xyz or random irrelevant pictures
    but thats my opinion

  • @hennaboy said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @hennaboy said:

    @rattlecattle said:

    @DeadlyChemist said: did i miss a lot?

    Don't think so. Mostly quiet after the addition of the new column on the stats page.

    Is that actually correct as I posted quite a few of Swift and I am still on 0%

    send me link i guess?
    should have pinned that

    https://racknerd.projecthive.eu/

    thankies

  • @hennaboy said: Is that actually correct as I posted quite a few of Swift and I am still on 0%

    The algorithm on the stats page uses Levenshtein distance to measure comment similarlty as explained by @MrEd . That may have something to do with it.

  • @MrEd said:

    @Xrmaddness said:

    @FrankZ said:

    @Xrmaddness said:
    I feel like I missed something important, but scrolling back a few pages is not revealing anything interesting. Are you two okay? :)

    Just fine, why ?

    Did you mean because I was being petty ?

    That was related to the no more palettes, or commercials, or other generally similar comments vote taken by some members, and displayed on MrEd's stats page here. So I was trying to be uniquely petty.

    Some member's have even taken to writing poetry about me, I was so very honored by this

    Oh, I see. I'm sorry that they voted against the palettes and commercials. You'll just have to post a lot more petty unique posts to lower your % ;)

    Well, it really depends on @dustinc how he interprets the new percentage, and we have no word on if he is using public stats pages, or he has his own implementation. Last year palettes were ok, this time we just can see how many palettes took place in the thread :)

    I understand, and I can also see where the others are coming from with their point of view. Obviously the final say is up to Dustin to decide, and, as you've already stated, he's allowed it in the past.

    Personally, I feel like the palettes are at least a step above just straight up spamming the thread. At least they're unique, took time for him to assemble and upload to his website, and they're not something you can find elsewhere. It'd be nice if it tied in to the thread a little better, but @FrankZ did explain that there are a lot of web developers and owners here, and palettes could be necessary for them. I think that's a pretty decent explanation.

    At any rate, did I miss a post where you explained or even shared the exact code that you're using to determine the difference between a unique and non-unique post? I'd say that's quite important for anyone to determine for themselves if your tracking is even valid.

    For example, is it checking every image link or post content exactly the same, or would it determine that any post that only includes an image is identical? Your stats may be leaning heavily against @FrankZ even though a majority of the images he's posted are different.

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  • @DeadlyChemist said:

    @hennaboy said: What counts as spam? As I'm just here chatting and nothing is really relevant to RN

    in my humble opinion posting random crap like welcome to page xyz or random irrelevant pictures
    but thats my opinion

    I really don't mind either way.

    Its clear that some would and some clearly have. But that is human nature for you.

  • @hennaboy said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @hennaboy said: What counts as spam? As I'm just here chatting and nothing is really relevant to RN

    in my humble opinion posting random crap like welcome to page xyz or random irrelevant pictures
    but thats my opinion

    I really don't mind either way.

    Its clear that some would and some clearly have. But that is human nature for you.

    guess so, not going for main prize
    just guess chatting

  • @Xrmaddness said:

    @MrEd said:

    @Xrmaddness said:

    @FrankZ said:

    @Xrmaddness said:
    I feel like I missed something important, but scrolling back a few pages is not revealing anything interesting. Are you two okay? :)

    Just fine, why ?

    Did you mean because I was being petty ?

    That was related to the no more palettes, or commercials, or other generally similar comments vote taken by some members, and displayed on MrEd's stats page here. So I was trying to be uniquely petty.

    Some member's have even taken to writing poetry about me, I was so very honored by this

    Oh, I see. I'm sorry that they voted against the palettes and commercials. You'll just have to post a lot more petty unique posts to lower your % ;)

    Well, it really depends on @dustinc how he interprets the new percentage, and we have no word on if he is using public stats pages, or he has his own implementation. Last year palettes were ok, this time we just can see how many palettes took place in the thread :)

    I understand, and I can also see where the others are coming from with their point of view. Obviously the final say is up to Dustin to decide, and, as you've already stated, he's allowed it in the past.

    Personally, I feel like the palettes are at least a step above just straight up spamming the thread. At least they're unique, took time for him to assemble and upload to his website, and they're not something you can find elsewhere. It'd be nice if it tied in to the thread a little better, but @FrankZ did explain that there are a lot of web developers and owners here, and palettes could be necessary for them. I think that's a pretty decent explanation.

    At any rate, did I miss a post where you explained or even shared the exact code that you're using to determine the difference between a unique and non-unique post? I'd say that's quite important for anyone to determine for themselves if your tracking is even valid.

    For example, is it checking every image link or post content exactly the same, or would it determine that any post that only includes an image is identical? Your stats may be leaning heavily against @FrankZ even though a majority of the images he's posted are different.

    As I said yesterday. If it was in the first post that similar content would be discounted then fine but its not and that's something for those that post giveaways and competitions to take on board and consider for next time.

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  • @DeadlyChemist said:

    @hennaboy said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @hennaboy said: What counts as spam? As I'm just here chatting and nothing is really relevant to RN

    in my humble opinion posting random crap like welcome to page xyz or random irrelevant pictures
    but thats my opinion

    I really don't mind either way.

    Its clear that some would and some clearly have. But that is human nature for you.

    guess so, not going for main prize
    just guess chatting

    I am currently sat here knowing I have to go out again as I have all week and continue to sort out my stock room before the big delivery on Monday.

    I ache. I am sore. I don't wanna. So I am chatting here but really I should get ready and go

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  • @DeadlyChemist said:

    @hennaboy said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @hennaboy said: What counts as spam? As I'm just here chatting and nothing is really relevant to RN

    in my humble opinion posting random crap like welcome to page xyz or random irrelevant pictures
    but thats my opinion

    I really don't mind either way.

    Its clear that some would and some clearly have. But that is human nature for you.

    guess so, not going for main prize
    just guess chatting

    Doubt they would post a laptop to the UK anyway I think it says that?

    I don't want that sort of credit balance with RN either.

    It wouldn't be an upgrade for my current laptop either so I don't need it.

  • @hennaboy said:

    As I said yesterday. If it was in the first post that similar content would be discounted then fine but its not and that's something for those that post giveaways and competitions to take on board and consider for next time.

    Thanks for sharing your opinion again, and sorry that I missed it yesterday.

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  • Spam or not that would be for admins to decide but in the end everything counts mostly. There is no point to scan through the thread looking for potential spammy comments.

  • @Xrmaddness said:

    @hennaboy said:

    As I said yesterday. If it was in the first post that similar content would be discounted then fine but its not and that's something for those that post giveaways and competitions to take on board and consider for next time.

    Thanks for sharing your opinion again, and sorry that I missed it yesterday.

    Easily done. You can miss a lot when you come back and its 60+ pages further in

  • Hello, I would like to double the bandwidth.
    Order: 1173593630
    Thanks!

  • @codelock said:
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    @codelock said:
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    @codelock said:
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    this is why we need a filter

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  • Right im outta here. This work isnt gonna do itself. Have fun everyone.

  • @hennaboy said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @hennaboy said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @hennaboy said: What counts as spam? As I'm just here chatting and nothing is really relevant to RN

    in my humble opinion posting random crap like welcome to page xyz or random irrelevant pictures
    but thats my opinion

    I really don't mind either way.

    Its clear that some would and some clearly have. But that is human nature for you.

    guess so, not going for main prize
    just guess chatting

    Doubt they would post a laptop to the UK anyway I think it says that?

    I don't want that sort of credit balance with RN either.

    It wouldn't be an upgrade for my current laptop either so I don't need it.

    i dont mind credits, will use them anways... but yeah
    ant ship a laptop to germany

    Thanked by 1MMzF
  • But the hard work is being done by dustinc himself, looking for the double bandwidth requests among the sea of noise to not miss one. That is hectic.

  • @rattlecattle said:
    But the hard work is being done by dustinc himself, looking for the double bandwidth requests among the sea of noise to not miss one. That is hectic.

    just like every year

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  • @DeadlyChemist said:

    @codelock said:
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    @codelock said:
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    @codelock said:
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    this is why we need a filter

    Okay, now this I can certainly get behind. I have a hard time trying to justify how this follows the note from the participation post:

    For posts to be eligible and counted -- they should be generally helpful and neighborly towards the community.

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3753740/#Comment_3753740

  • five pages are missing

  • @Xrmaddness said: At any rate, did I miss a post where you explained or even shared the exact code that you're using to determine the difference between a unique and non-unique post? I'd say that's quite important for anyone to determine for themselves if your tracking is even valid.

    >

    @MrEd said:

    @Arjun42 said:
    Thanks! Hopefully it's easier to deal with than Levenshtein Distance.

    I will though implement some other "similarity" measure, because currently it is 90% according to the length of the message... This doesn't fire on messages "Page 123" and "Page 124", because difference is 1 for these messages, they are clearly similar, but because message itself is short (8 characters), similarity is only 87.5%, and it doesn't fall into similar messages category. I guess I will have to add a check "if difference is less than 3" for example, then ignore the percentage :) This will definitely increase the number of similar comments, maybe we will have less 0% members :)

    I did explain it here. I hope it is clear enough how it works, but as mentioned in the comment, it has its flaws which I will try to get around (maybe with distance < 3 == similar)

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  • @Xrmaddness said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @codelock said:
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    @codelock said:
    πŸ’¦πŸ†πŸ˜πŸ₯²πŸ˜˜

    @codelock said:
    β›΅πŸšŸπŸš‘πŸ‡°πŸ‡Ώβ™ΎοΈ

    this is why we need a filter

    Okay, now this I can certainly get behind. I have a hard time trying to justify how this follows the note from the participation post:

    For posts to be eligible and counted -- they should be generally helpful and neighborly towards the community.

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3753740/#Comment_3753740

    3rd bf here
    never has anyone been disqualified
    either way it's a bad situtaion for all of us

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  • Anyway, I'm off to bed. I hope you all have a wonderful day or night, whichever it is currently wherever you are. > @MrEd said:

    @Xrmaddness said: At any rate, did I miss a post where you explained or even shared the exact code that you're using to determine the difference between a unique and non-unique post? I'd say that's quite important for anyone to determine for themselves if your tracking is even valid.

    >

    @MrEd said:

    @Arjun42 said:
    Thanks! Hopefully it's easier to deal with than Levenshtein Distance.

    I will though implement some other "similarity" measure, because currently it is 90% according to the length of the message... This doesn't fire on messages "Page 123" and "Page 124", because difference is 1 for these messages, they are clearly similar, but because message itself is short (8 characters), similarity is only 87.5%, and it doesn't fall into similar messages category. I guess I will have to add a check "if difference is less than 3" for example, then ignore the percentage :) This will definitely increase the number of similar comments, maybe we will have less 0% members :)

    I did explain it here. I hope it is clear enough how it works, but as mentioned in the comment, it has its flaws which I will try to get around (maybe with distance < 3 == similar)

    Thanks for drudging up your previous post, I had figured you already explained it, but there are far too many pages. I appreciate it, thank you.

    I'm not sure if you share your code publicly anywhere, but I'd love to have a look, at least for this part of it. I'm just genuinely curious, it's an interesting problem to solve. It sounds like you're still making adjustments to it?

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  • Page 197 welcome

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