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  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited October 2023

    @Astro said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Astro said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Astro said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    @jenkki said:

    You can build up all you want but it's already known that the more police measures the less willing to join in.

    Companies like AWS/Azure do there verification process directly from payment transactions and client even dont know about it or he doesn't care because he is not sharing his details by his own hand.

    How is AWS Bombay fulfilling these required KYC conditions without asking for id proof or selfie pictures?

    As I mentioned they have a partnership with payment gateway, that is why they ask for 1 Rs, transaction for free trial.

    How is that verification fulfills condition of id verification, address verification AND picture verification?

    What happens when a prepaid card is used for payment?

    As far as I understand , if you are sharing a ID proof on internet , you can share anyones ID, but if you take a selfie and attach ID proof on withpersona.com, it can match and verify it clearly that the details you share are correct.

    About AWS, when you are directly dealing with payment gateway, you dont need this process.

    Prepaid Card works with many payment gateways.
    The prepaid card may not have verified address.

    And no credit card transaction can fulfill picture requirement of KYC

    I just checked VULTR does not require any selfie picture requirement either.

    Based on this, the selfie picture part is most likely, not a required part of KYC.

    Picture requirement is only to verify the ID proof given is correct. Without authenticity ID proof is of no use.

    Even for opening bank account at ICICI Bank, selfie picture is not required.

    I recently opened one with HDFC, they took my picture lol so did Kotak a few months ago but yeah doesn’t really make sense since they verify biometrics via aadhar

    I opened ICICI bank from here and
    I have no aadhar card or PAN card or Indian passport

    NRI account?

    yes, it is called NRI account even though I am not an NRI.

    Not even sure how that works

    I am getting a feeling that rules are more strict for Indian citizens whether you need a SIM card, open a bank account, etc

    That probably explains why one can get virtual phone number from many countries, but not Indian phone number.

  • AstroAstro Member

    @dev_vps said:

    @Astro said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Astro said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Astro said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    @jenkki said:

    You can build up all you want but it's already known that the more police measures the less willing to join in.

    Companies like AWS/Azure do there verification process directly from payment transactions and client even dont know about it or he doesn't care because he is not sharing his details by his own hand.

    How is AWS Bombay fulfilling these required KYC conditions without asking for id proof or selfie pictures?

    As I mentioned they have a partnership with payment gateway, that is why they ask for 1 Rs, transaction for free trial.

    How is that verification fulfills condition of id verification, address verification AND picture verification?

    What happens when a prepaid card is used for payment?

    As far as I understand , if you are sharing a ID proof on internet , you can share anyones ID, but if you take a selfie and attach ID proof on withpersona.com, it can match and verify it clearly that the details you share are correct.

    About AWS, when you are directly dealing with payment gateway, you dont need this process.

    Prepaid Card works with many payment gateways.
    The prepaid card may not have verified address.

    And no credit card transaction can fulfill picture requirement of KYC

    I just checked VULTR does not require any selfie picture requirement either.

    Based on this, the selfie picture part is most likely, not a required part of KYC.

    Picture requirement is only to verify the ID proof given is correct. Without authenticity ID proof is of no use.

    Even for opening bank account at ICICI Bank, selfie picture is not required.

    I recently opened one with HDFC, they took my picture lol so did Kotak a few months ago but yeah doesn’t really make sense since they verify biometrics via aadhar

    I opened ICICI bank from here and
    I have no aadhar card or PAN card or Indian passport

    NRI account?

    yes, it is called NRI account even though I am not an NRI.

    Not even sure how that works

    I am getting a feeling that rules are more strict for Indian citizens whether you need a SIM card, open a bank account, etc

    Seems to be the case. Aadhar isn’t mandatory for any of these and yet you get nagged by every institution to get it attached

  • dosaidosai Member

    @dev_vps said:

    @Astro said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Astro said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    @jenkki said:

    You can build up all you want but it's already known that the more police measures the less willing to join in.

    Companies like AWS/Azure do there verification process directly from payment transactions and client even dont know about it or he doesn't care because he is not sharing his details by his own hand.

    How is AWS Bombay fulfilling these required KYC conditions without asking for id proof or selfie pictures?

    As I mentioned they have a partnership with payment gateway, that is why they ask for 1 Rs, transaction for free trial.

    How is that verification fulfills condition of id verification, address verification AND picture verification?

    What happens when a prepaid card is used for payment?

    As far as I understand , if you are sharing a ID proof on internet , you can share anyones ID, but if you take a selfie and attach ID proof on withpersona.com, it can match and verify it clearly that the details you share are correct.

    About AWS, when you are directly dealing with payment gateway, you dont need this process.

    Prepaid Card works with many payment gateways.
    The prepaid card may not have verified address.

    And no credit card transaction can fulfill picture requirement of KYC

    I just checked VULTR does not require any selfie picture requirement either.

    Based on this, the selfie picture part is most likely, not a required part of KYC.

    Picture requirement is only to verify the ID proof given is correct. Without authenticity ID proof is of no use.

    Even for opening bank account at ICICI Bank, selfie picture is not required.

    I recently opened one with HDFC, they took my picture lol so did Kotak a few months ago but yeah doesn’t really make sense since they verify biometrics via aadhar

    I opened ICICI bank from here and
    I have no aadhar card or PAN card or Indian passport

    NRI account?

    yes, it is called NRI account even though I am not an NRI.

    Makes no sense.

  • AstroAstro Member

    @dosai said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Astro said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Astro said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    @jenkki said:

    You can build up all you want but it's already known that the more police measures the less willing to join in.

    Companies like AWS/Azure do there verification process directly from payment transactions and client even dont know about it or he doesn't care because he is not sharing his details by his own hand.

    How is AWS Bombay fulfilling these required KYC conditions without asking for id proof or selfie pictures?

    As I mentioned they have a partnership with payment gateway, that is why they ask for 1 Rs, transaction for free trial.

    How is that verification fulfills condition of id verification, address verification AND picture verification?

    What happens when a prepaid card is used for payment?

    As far as I understand , if you are sharing a ID proof on internet , you can share anyones ID, but if you take a selfie and attach ID proof on withpersona.com, it can match and verify it clearly that the details you share are correct.

    About AWS, when you are directly dealing with payment gateway, you dont need this process.

    Prepaid Card works with many payment gateways.
    The prepaid card may not have verified address.

    And no credit card transaction can fulfill picture requirement of KYC

    I just checked VULTR does not require any selfie picture requirement either.

    Based on this, the selfie picture part is most likely, not a required part of KYC.

    Picture requirement is only to verify the ID proof given is correct. Without authenticity ID proof is of no use.

    Even for opening bank account at ICICI Bank, selfie picture is not required.

    I recently opened one with HDFC, they took my picture lol so did Kotak a few months ago but yeah doesn’t really make sense since they verify biometrics via aadhar

    I opened ICICI bank from here and
    I have no aadhar card or PAN card or Indian passport

    NRI account?

    yes, it is called NRI account even though I am not an NRI.

    Makes no sense.

    I was going to say but I am tired of banging my head against a wall lol

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member

    @Astro said:

    @dev_vps said:

    I am getting a feeling that rules are more strict for Indian citizens whether you need a SIM card, open a bank account, etc

    Seems to be the case. Aadhar isn’t mandatory for any of these and yet you get nagged by every institution to get it attached

    Because, may be, the customer has that fear of getting punished even if he is legally right.

  • leapswitchleapswitch Patron Provider, Veteran

    @Hostzop said:

    @neverain said:
    This is pretty normal in India, I had to verify KYC for leapswitch too (but i think they used a gov site for verification)

    Can you please share the link

    We use Digio for KYC.

    Thanked by 2Hostzop neverain
  • tbsworktbswork Member

    why bandwidth so expensive in India?

  • FatGrizzlyFatGrizzly Member, Host Rep

    I honestly don't know what @dev_vps is on, NRI but living in India sounds like a fraud? I'm not too sure about it, nor wanna talk about it.

    But almost wherever I opened bank accounts, my ID, signature and selfie was required.(Kotak,PayTM,Jio)

    I'm an Indian citizen and a resident.

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member

    @FatGrizzly said:
    I honestly don't know what @dev_vps is on, NRI but living in India sounds like a fraud? I'm not too sure about it, nor wanna talk about it.

    I do not live in India

  • AstroAstro Member

    @FatGrizzly said:
    I honestly don't know what @dev_vps is on, NRI but living in India sounds like a fraud? I'm not too sure about it, nor wanna talk about it.

    But almost wherever I opened bank accounts, my ID, signature and selfie was required.(Kotak,PayTM,Jio)

    I'm an Indian citizen and a resident.

    Brace yourself for a unrelated response as to why you’re wrong lol the dude/dudette is arguing with the provider for abiding by local laws.

    Thanked by 2FatGrizzly niranjan
  • HostzopHostzop Member, Host Rep

    @tbswork said:
    why bandwidth so expensive in India?

    Yes bandwidth is bit expensive. Please let me know how much bandwidth you need. I am sure I can provide a better plan.

  • FatGrizzlyFatGrizzly Member, Host Rep

    @dev_vps said:

    @FatGrizzly said:
    I honestly don't know what @dev_vps is on, NRI but living in India sounds like a fraud? I'm not too sure about it, nor wanna talk about it.

    I do not live in India

    So you aren't an Indian Citizen nor a Indian resident?

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited October 2023

    @FatGrizzly said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @FatGrizzly said:
    I honestly don't know what @dev_vps is on, NRI but living in India sounds like a fraud? I'm not too sure about it, nor wanna talk about it.

    I do not live in India

    So you aren't an Indian Citizen nor a Indian resident?

    No and No

    @FatGrizzly said:
    I honestly don't know what @dev_vps is on, NRI but living in India sounds like a fraud?

    Not sure, how you made that assumption that I am an NRI and living in India

  • FatGrizzlyFatGrizzly Member, Host Rep

    This is too confusing for this weekend. I'll let the other LET'ers to decide.

    An Indian citizen is considered a resident for a financial year if he/she fulfills any of the basic conditions mentioned below:

    You should be physically present in India for 182 days or more during the relevant financial year. Or 
Your physical presence in India during the applicable financial year is 60 days or more and 365 days or more in the preceding four financial years. 
An Indian citizen having total income, excluding income from foreign sources, exceeding Rs. 15 lakh during the relevant financial year. He should not be liable to pay tax in any other country or territory by reason of his domicile or any other criteria of similar nature.

    dev_vps is not a NRI, but is an Indian Citizen and lives in India.

    man fuck this, imma go rest for this weekend.

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited October 2023

    @FatGrizzly said:

    dev_vps is not a NRI, but is an Indian Citizen and lives in India.

    man fuck this, imma go rest for this weekend.

    I am not an Indian citizen
    I do not live in India
    I am not an NRI

    Hopefully that clears your assumptions

  • niranjanniranjan Member

    @FatGrizzly said:
    This is too confusing for this weekend. I'll let the other LET'ers to decide.

    An Indian citizen is considered a resident for a financial year if he/she fulfills any of the basic conditions mentioned below:

    You should be physically present in India for 182 days or more during the relevant financial year. Or 
Your physical presence in India during the applicable financial year is 60 days or more and 365 days or more in the preceding four financial years. 
An Indian citizen having total income, excluding income from foreign sources, exceeding Rs. 15 lakh during the relevant financial year. He should not be liable to pay tax in any other country or territory by reason of his domicile or any other criteria of similar nature.

    dev_vps is not a NRI, but is an Indian Citizen and lives in India.

    man fuck this, imma go rest for this weekend.

    Basically, he has a lot of free time.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    Do you have IPv6 and IPv9?

  • Deepak_lebDeepak_leb Member

    Why this Drama is still going on, though provider had admitted his Conditions & Process !.

    🥲

  • JasonMJasonM Member

    worked with many top Indian providers, but no one every asked for KYC. Just CC payment or netbanking NEFT transfer and I got servers! Only once I was asked when colocating server in Relianace datacenter, navi mumbai. But small providers do ask for KYC and such things!

  • HostzopHostzop Member, Host Rep

    @yoursunny said:
    Do you have IPv6 and IPv9?

    We have IPv6

  • HostzopHostzop Member, Host Rep

    @JasonM said: Relianace datacenter, navi mumbai. But small providers do ask for KYC and such things!

    >

    I dont know how you got the server. After seeing your message, I connected with two Meity certified datacenters and they told me it's mandatory for every web hosting and data center company to do KYC for dedicated server, colocation, bandwidth, and VPS service.

  • uncooked92uncooked92 Member

    Just curious do you have colocation in Chennai? for individuals not business

  • HostzopHostzop Member, Host Rep

    @uncooked92 said:
    Just curious do you have colocation in Chennai? for individuals not business

    We are currently in the process of starting the colocation in Chennai. We will live this in very short duration in around 1 month.

    Thanked by 3uncooked92 dosai sh97
  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited October 2023

    @Hostzop said:

    ...... it's mandatory for every web hosting and data center company to do KYC for dedicated server, colocation, bandwidth, and VPS service.

    is selfie picture requirement mandatory for every hosting provider?
    how come vultr does KYC without asking for passport copy and selfie picture

  • Fabian47Fabian47 Member

    What are the Hardware specs/model of your VPS? Majority of the Indian providers are only using Outdated server HW, So I gotta be careful

  • HostzopHostzop Member, Host Rep

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    ...... it's mandatory for every web hosting and data center company to do KYC for dedicated server, colocation, bandwidth, and VPS service.

    is selfie picture requirement mandatory for every hosting provider?
    how come vultr does KYC without asking for passport copy and selfie picture

    As I mentioned, for KYC verification we use withpersona.com, they to KYC by checking ID + selfie. There may be different ways like Aadhar card + OTP, video recording and many more. Vultr must be following some other process.

  • HostzopHostzop Member, Host Rep

    @Fabian47 said:
    What are the Hardware specs/model of your VPS? Majority of the Indian providers are only using Outdated server HW, So I gotta be careful

    We are using, Intel E5-2660V3 (40vCPU),Dual Deca Core processor servers

    Thanked by 1Fabian47
  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited October 2023

    @Hostzop said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    ...... it's mandatory for every web hosting and data center company to do KYC for dedicated server, colocation, bandwidth, and VPS service.

    is selfie picture requirement mandatory for every hosting provider?
    how come vultr does KYC without asking for passport copy and selfie picture

    As I mentioned, for KYC verification we use withpersona.com, they to KYC by checking ID + selfie. There may be different ways like Aadhar card + OTP, video recording and many more. Vultr must be following some other process.

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  • FatGrizzlyFatGrizzly Member, Host Rep

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    ...... it's mandatory for every web hosting and data center company to do KYC for dedicated server, colocation, bandwidth, and VPS service.

    is selfie picture requirement mandatory for every hosting provider?
    how come vultr does KYC without asking for passport copy and selfie picture

    As I mentioned, for KYC verification we use withpersona.com, they to KYC by checking ID + selfie. There may be different ways like Aadhar card + OTP, video recording and many more. Vultr must be following some other process.

    Exactly my point
    Selfie picture is part of your kyc process
    it is not part of standard kyc process

    Oh my fucking god dude. Just move the fuck on if you don't wish to do business with this provider. He can have whatever KYC process on his site, doesn't bother anyone here except you.

    my 2 cents, Move on.

    Thanked by 4Hostzop dev_vps Deepak_leb Void
  • AstroAstro Member

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Hostzop said:

    ...... it's mandatory for every web hosting and data center company to do KYC for dedicated server, colocation, bandwidth, and VPS service.

    is selfie picture requirement mandatory for every hosting provider?
    how come vultr does KYC without asking for passport copy and selfie picture

    As I mentioned, for KYC verification we use withpersona.com, they to KYC by checking ID + selfie. There may be different ways like Aadhar card + OTP, video recording and many more. Vultr must be following some other process.

    Exactly my point
    Selfie picture is part of your kyc process
    it is not part of standard kyc process

    You're one of the most annoying dudes I've seen on here. Just buzz off. None of your posts make any damn sense. Take your ICICI account and take a hop.

    The provider can ask for a urine sample for all I care. You don't want business with him, then just don't give him your money.

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