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Which linux distro?

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  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @opal4891 said:

    @jsg said: The problem with democracy is that by definition > 85% of the voters are not particularly intelligent

    And the problem with human nature is we all presume we are part of the 15% not the 85%..

    There exist IQ tests that work quite well up to about 135 (beyond which it gets a bit vague).

    Btw, all the people with an IQ north of 120 I know have a quite healthy idea of their IQ. What you wrote is mostly found solidly below 100. Or as I used to say "If they are just dumb that's OK, after all one can't chose one's IQ. But if they are dumb and loud my tolerance level rapidly sinks".

    Whatever, my view on the thread topic stays "Alpine".

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  • fiberstatefiberstate Member, Patron Provider

    Debian 12 seems to be the most popular request we are seeing.

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  • Debian forever 👍

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  • the one you can handle.

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  • Debian :)

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  • I prefer Arch on desktop, Debian on servers.

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  • @chip said:
    Hi all,

    I'm sure I'm going to cause quite a stir here, but which flavour of linux is the "best"?

    That question is impossible to answer with the information given. What is "best" for you depends on what you value as important qualities.

    If you value stability, Debian is a good choice.
    If you value small footprint, Alpine is a good choice.
    If you need all the newest versions of software, Ubuntu is a good choice.
    If you value desktop experience, Elementary OS or Xubuntu would probably be a good choice.

    There is no "best" flavor, they all have their pros and cons.

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  • @fiberstate said:
    Debian 12 seems to be the most popular request we are seeing.

    Debian 12, Ubuntu 22 seem to be very popular flavors. But many a times i see even the older stables requested too.
    I remember when CentOS was the most popular one then the IBM fiasco happened. I still see a fair amount of alma and rocky requests for the ones hanging on.

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  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited August 2023

    @jsg said: There exist IQ tests that work quite well up to about 135 (beyond which it gets a bit vague).

    Hum, I did 145 on a test up to 150 but that was long ago, was just finishing high school and didn't take any since except at some jobs interviews and they never told me the results.
    My significant other is into psychology and IQ tests etc. but it sounds reasonable that over a certain threshold it should get vague because you can't be infinitely intelligent even if you would know everything in advance because then you won't be adapting to new situations as everything is old and known, there wouldn't be any problems to solve, just boredom to everafter.

    In my view, the more intelligent you are, the more suicidal you should be. Life is worth living because you don't know the future.
    Ignorance is bliss. 4real!

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  • davidedavide Member
    edited August 2023

    @Maounique said:
    In my view, the more intelligent you are, the more suicidal you should be.

    Unless you hold society by the balls. In the opposite case, have no fear of that sinister hand, it is just an intimate massage... promise.

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  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited August 2023

    @davide said: Unless you hold society by the balls

    Nope. It would still be boring, like pushing buttons and always getting the expected results.

    This reminds me an old joke when the coffee machines were first introduced in here early nineties.

    One cop was at the coffee machine, putting in the coins, getting the coffee, drinking it. After some 15 cups there was a line behind him. An old lady says:
    "Hey, young, man, haven't you had enough?"
    "What do you want old hag, are you jealous that I keep on winning?"

    @davide said: In the opposite case, have no fear, it is just an intimate massage.

    This reminds me of another joke.

    A cop stops a guy on a bicycle who was carrying 2 sacs, one in front and one in the back.

    "Hey, what do you have in that sac?" The cop points to the one in front.
    The guy hesitates for a while but eventually admits:
    "So, I go in the back of the village's pub and I wait until the drunkards are getting out to relieve themselves. I get them by the balls and say, you pay me a tenner or I cut! That is where I put the money I collected tonight."
    "OMG, you got two sacs of money?"
    "No, sir, only one with money, do you think everyone pays up?"

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  • @Maounique

    I entirely disagree, and it's bad sign because great minds think alike.

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  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited August 2023

    @davide said: great minds think alike

    I agree that for one limited life span might be fun, but after some decades it does get tedious, everything gets tedious a la long, even winning all the time.

    That saying is not accounting for taste, it suggests that great minds can recognize the reality under its many guises so they would see similar optimal solutions to real problems in real contexts.

    But de gustibus et coloribus non est disputandum. Some people get bored faster others could do the same thing over and over and find some satisfaction ad infinitum, but it doesn't change the fact that being too intelligent is boring enough that could push most people to suicide.

    If you read the Bible carefully you could see quite a few references to that. Some more vague, some direct, if you would know all the reality, then you would die or go insane. When I was little I was interpreting that as our mind can't interpret correctly the reality, only God could, we are Gods children forever, given some rules we have to obey because we can't judge for ourselves.

    I changed my mind in time, I think it is a warning. Thinking how and why carries risks and the risk is not sin, but finding the reasoning and the nature of the Universe and life after which nothing else matters, just waiting for the inevitable end. Welcome to Hell!

    Maybe this is why there are no visible signs of other intelligence in the Universe, It evolved until it got too intelligent for its own good.

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  • Will you please stop calling Debian stable. What does that even mean?

    A distro is a collection of /bin binaries, and some have a package manager. That's ALL.

    You can open any ISO you will find the same thing. A vmlinuz kernel, a cpio root file system, and a bunch of /usr/bin tools.

    There is nothing "stable" about a distro. The kernel is stable, not the distribution.

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  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited August 2023

    @RazorsEdge said: The kernel is stable, not the distribution.

    The kernel is not stable either.

    I think people mean by "stable" "stable compared to the average" most of the rest of the pack, like in it displays unexpected behaviour less frequently than the rest. Nothing is ever completely stable, time can dissipate all matter and energy in the end.

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  • Ofcourse it should be Ubuntu or Debian.

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  • abatabat Member

    RHEL with dev subscription has replaced Centos for me. If you can use the individual sub then it works well.

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  • I am a Windows guy. Six years ago, when I decided to move from shared hosting to VPS, I searched about which Linux distro is best. My main concern was 512 MB memory as that is what I was getting at the time, so I wanted something that was lean and would take least number of resources and work efficiently. The unanimous answer I found here and other sites was Debian is the right choice. So, from then on, I am the Debian guy. Very stable. Doesn't hog RAM. Quick and reliable.

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  • debian, thx

  • Does raspberry pi os count? it is based on debian and is my first real world encounter with tech. Started small.

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  • Debian for the stability...

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  • ArkasArkas Member, Retired Moderator
    edited August 2023

    What makes some of you choose Ubuntu over Debian? I mean it's Debian based, is it the snaps?
    (I'm talking about servers)

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    I am also interested in hearing that answer. I never understood ppl choosing Ubuntu over Debian (well, apart from Ubuntu Studio which my significant other is a fan of, that is packed with stuff for creative people and, while I could certainly recreate what I would need out of that, having all already packed is convenient for non-techies).

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  • @Maounique said:
    I am also interested in hearing that answer. I never understood ppl choosing Ubuntu over Debian (well, apart from Ubuntu Studio which my significant other is a fan of, that is packed with stuff for creative people and, while I could certainly recreate what I would need out of that, having all already packed is convenient for non-techies).

    Updated package and some changes on ubuntu-specific
    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu/ForDebianDevelopers

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  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    I know that, I meant what makes users of this forum choose Ubuntu over Debian, their personal reasons.

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  • I can't stop using Alpine Linux recently, cause I can predict how it behave in production thanks to simplicity design by default.

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  • fiberstatefiberstate Member, Patron Provider

    @CheepCluck said:

    @fiberstate said:
    Debian 12 seems to be the most popular request we are seeing.

    Debian 12, Ubuntu 22 seem to be very popular flavors. But many a times i see even the older stables requested too.
    I remember when CentOS was the most popular one then the IBM fiasco happened. I still see a fair amount of alma and rocky requests for the ones hanging on.

    Agreed. Seems like Alma is still hanging on due to cPanel.

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  • I was more comfortable with Ubuntu, but switched to CentOS 8 now.

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