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@PineappleM I think you’re wrong in multiple ways, but before I give my point of view, please tag me if you decide to respond. It was just a coincidence I saw your reply.
You’re not taking oppurtunity costs into account. Sitting on inventory is always worse than selling at 90 % off, without taking oppurtunity costs into account.
This inevitably leads to a false base for the rest of your assumptions.
Hetzner has dedicated servers avaliable basically 24/7, so they’ve got server resources sitting doing nothing, without taking oppurtunity costs into account, the wise move for them would be to sell those out instantly for just 1 € more compared to their power fees.
The incentive is already there, there’s a setup fee.
Let’s say you sign up for a dedicated server and keep it for 2 years.
Financially, it makes no difference if you pay a xyz € setup fee that averages out to 2.5 € a month, or, if you get a 2.5 € discount monthly by committing to 24 months of usage.
There’re the same thing.
The only difference is that:
Also, your assumption that short-term usage is bad for OVH is probably not true, I think it’s more them taking advantage of people that think that they’re signing up to some long-term usage when in reality they’re only going to keep it for 2-3 months.
With a 45 € setup fee, if OVH makes a 2 € profit on the server itself a month, that’s nearly 2 years worth of profit as once (22,5 months), imagine someone keeping the server for 3 months, OVH now made a profit worth 25,5 months instead of simply 3 months.
Out of the server monthly renewal, it’s resonable to assume most of it just vanishes before it even reaches OVH, even excluding staff costs.
Gateway fees, electricity, network, physical space. Then, a substantial tax on the tiny profit left.
Compare that to the setup fee, to OVH, that’s basically free money.
Sure, but they don’t offer the same product.
OVH has a much better Anti-DDoS, can’t even be compared. Especially on the GAME line.
OVH also has APAC locations, Hetzner has nothing suitsble there.
OVH is also more relaxed on bandwidth usage (at least that’s my personal understanding).
They’re not exactly the same so it’s very hard to compare small details when the overall product is different.
OVH is probably about 10x cheaper compared to GleSYS, so what? There’s a marker for both, still.
@jar metioned previously how people jumping between deals while having a lot of time left on their current service makes him a lot of money
And he dosen’t even have a setup fee
@emgh For ovh to get profit. Redesign and speed up website (UI). Make VPS line deply instance and rewards client if they keep contract for long time.
Looking into cdn and vpn service.
Stop selling overpriced old epyc servers. (They are selling old shit 2-3x compare to other providers.)
Make deal with amd and provide new epyc servers with compatible price.
And finally hire UX to make better services to clients.
https://corporate.ovhcloud.com/sites/default/files/2023-06/2023-06-29-ovhcloud-revenue-q3-fy23-vdef_0.pdf
Good for them but UI and UX still shit af.
Like 90% of the B2B world is clunky and confusing as shit, but it doesn't matter when the contracts range from multi-thousands to millions.
Btw they are going to acquire Gridscale. Got news few hours ago.
SYS-5-SSD-32 yabs:
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Yet-Another-Bench-Script
v2023-04-23
https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script
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Fri Aug 4 21:29:56 UTC 2023
Basic System Information:
Uptime : 3 days, 13 hours, 21 minutes
Processor : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1270 v6 @ 3.80GHz
CPU cores : 8 @ 4091.000 MHz
AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM : 31.0 GiB
Swap : 32.0 GiB
Disk : 701.7 GiB
Distro : Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS
VM Type : NONE
IPv4/IPv6 : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline
IPv4 Network Information:
ISP : OVH SAS
ASN : AS16276 OVH SAS
Host : OVH Hosting, Inc.
Location : Beauharnois, Quebec (QC)
Country : Canada
fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
Test | Value
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Single Core | 1174
Multi Core | 4610
Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/2151225
YABS completed in 11 min 50 sec
Was getting 1gbps down at first but seems capped now.
I kind of like the structure of it
One thing I really don't like though is the loading times
But that's like a thing with modern pages, the browser is basically becoming a code compiler
Even on my Ryzen 5600x it dosen't at all feel snappy
Quite funny how a rule of thumb nowadays is that the newer and more modern a site is, the more tedious it is to use
Hi, can anyone help me understand how OVH discount works with the Flash sale?
I ordered a KS-12 with one month contract duration (rather than 3, 6, or 12 mo), and after the server got setup, I turned the automatic renewal on.
Do I get to keep the flash sale price for the next month renewal this way?
I've opened a support ticket few days ago, but OVH's support reputation precedes them, so I'm not holding my breath.
Yes, you should keep the discount until you cancel the server, at least that's how it worked last time they had a -30% promotion. It does not show in the interface though, from my experience the website shows the full price, but on your next invoice you should see the -50%.
Thanks man! I got confused exactly because of this.
Anyone can tell me if the soyoustart servers come with KVM/IP - they list it as optional so I imagine you need to pay a lot to get it ?
Most/all xeons in the SYS lineup have IPMI