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MXroute Independence Day Sale!

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  • aliletalilet Member

    I gave jar's opening post to ChatGPT to train so that I can write article in this style but ChatGPT flagged it and now I am waiting for FBI's knock on the door.

    Thanked by 1jar
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @rsk said: is it possible to stack 3x under a single account?

    Sure just know that they'll be separate hosting packages, and that you can't split 1 domain between 2 or more packages. But you could have like:

    Package1 - domain1,domain2,domain3

    Package2 - domain4,domain5,domain6

    etc.

    @rsk said: Also just wondering what the backup strategy in place is?

    It's not the same on every system, but they're all 1 of three methods:

    1. Constant looping rsync with delete flag to large backup server.
    2. DA backup system backup to Hetzner storage box.
    3. JetBackup to Hetzner storage box or to large backup server.
  • @sh97 said:
    The $10 BF plan is back. Nice!

    Edit:
    If anyone is interested
    https://accounts.mxroute.com/?cmd=cart&action=add&id=198

    This is so tempting. I currently have the $5 Black Friday 2020 Small 2GB plan and I only use 400MB out of 2GB... I really don't need the extra space

    Thanked by 1jar
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @ashcraye said: This is so tempting

    image

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  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    I'm gonna call this my prime day sale too. Because apparently people who aren't even Amazon now have prime day sales. I guess it's a holiday now? Amazon is so big they have their own holiday...

  • aliletalilet Member
    edited July 2023

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    Nevermind I got the issue!

    Thanked by 1jar
  • TimRooTimRoo Member
    edited July 2023

    @jar said:
    I'm gonna call this my prime day sale too. Because apparently people who aren't even Amazon now have prime day sales.

    Mostly just to take advantage of the frenzy and steal business, but it definitely works on people, especially those who don't have Prime memberships.

    Thanked by 1jar
  • @jar said:
    I'm gonna call this my prime day sale too. Because apparently people who aren't even Amazon now have prime day sales. I guess it's a holiday now? Amazon is so big they have their own holiday...

    Bring back the 50% off LET special and we will declare tomorrow an MXroute Day !! :wink:

    Thanked by 1jar
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    Still got a few promos lying around. I'm too far into dealing with allergies to care to start winding them down.

    Penis.

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  • @jar said:
    Still got a few promos lying around. I'm too far into dealing with allergies to care to start winding them down.

    Penis.

    i wonder what you ate.

    Thanked by 1jar
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @cybertech said:

    @jar said:
    Still got a few promos lying around. I'm too far into dealing with allergies to care to start winding them down.

    Penis.

    i wonder what you ate.

    Most recently? Eggs and sausage.

    But damn the weather here is really hitting my allergies. Getting too old for this shit.

    Thanked by 2cybertech emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    I hate pollen

    Thanked by 1jar
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    Paperspace was acquired by DigitalOcean. My pharmacy is calling it quits and letting Walgreens take over. Reddit is charging obscene prices for API to kill third party apps. Reddit is taking away platform specific currency paid for by it's users. Twitter is limiting viewership and suing people for scraping content. Platforms everywhere are censoring speech they don't like.

    I'm seeing the trends pretty clearly: Small business is dying, and large corporations are becoming increasingly hostile to their users.

    MXroute is just an email provider, sure. But everything needs a purpose. Our purpose is clear. While small businesses are cashing out and being replaced by the large corporations, and while platforms are becoming increasingly hostile to users, MXroute has a goal. We will not sell out. We will work on being increasingly accommodating to our users. We can't simply be a small business, we must be part of a movement. We have to protect choice in the marketplace, and we have to give users a place to feel that they're actually valued.

    I don't know what all that means in terms of action items, but I see my mission clearly. The world isn't turning into a more beautiful place every day, but we can plant a beautiful garden and tell anyone who threatens it to fuck off.

  • aliletalilet Member

    Well, it sounds like you're ready to take on the big guys and create a revolution in the world of email providers! MXroute to the rescue! While the rest of the world is going haywire with acquisitions, price hikes, and censorship, you're standing tall, holding the fort, and saying, "Not on our watch!"

    I can already picture it—the MXroute headquarters, a fortress of email freedom, with a giant sign that says, "No Sellouts Allowed!" Your team, clad in capes with email symbols emblazoned on them, fighting the good fight against the evil forces of corporatization and user-hostility.

    And your mission is crystal clear: protect choice, make users feel valued, and create a beautiful garden of email happiness. You're like the horticulturists of the internet, cultivating a garden where every email is nurtured and treasured, free from the weeds of corporate greed.

    So, go forth, MXroute! Let your garden bloom, and if anyone dares to threaten it, you have my full support in telling them to kindly "fuck off." Because, hey, who needs negativity when you've got a beautiful garden to tend to? Keep spreading the email love, my friend!

    Thanked by 1jar
  • @jar said:

    @rsk said: is it possible to stack 3x under a single account?

    Sure just know that they'll be separate hosting packages, and that you can't split 1 domain between 2 or more packages. But you could have like:

    Package1 - domain1,domain2,domain3

    Package2 - domain4,domain5,domain6

    etc.

    I don't think that's what he meant by "stack". He wants them combined into one big space. Otherwise, he'd have just said "buy" instead, and would still be silly to ask instead of just buying it three times and skip asking.

    Thanked by 1jar
  • rskrsk Member, Host Rep

    @TimboJones said:

    @jar said:

    @rsk said: is it possible to stack 3x under a single account?

    Sure just know that they'll be separate hosting packages, and that you can't split 1 domain between 2 or more packages. But you could have like:

    Package1 - domain1,domain2,domain3

    Package2 - domain4,domain5,domain6

    etc.

    I don't think that's what he meant by "stack". He wants them combined into one big space. Otherwise, he'd have just said "buy" instead, and would still be silly to ask instead of just buying it three times and skip asking.

    You're right, but I opted for one of the larger plans instead :)

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    Significant change, and I'm mad that I had to make it. Someone else will think I'm an asshole for being mad about it and for not changing it before, but email is filled with holes that average people don't know about and I'm not trying to be the first person to fix all of them.

    https://blog.mxroute.com/dkim-signing-change-vulnerability-exposure/

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  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @jar said:
    Significant change, and I'm mad that I had to make it. Someone else will think I'm an asshole for being mad about it and for not changing it before, but email is filled with holes that average people don't know about and I'm not trying to be the first person to fix all of them.

    https://blog.mxroute.com/dkim-signing-change-vulnerability-exposure/

    Simple-minded question: I guess that as far as validation on the receiving end is concerned, it doesn't matter that the DKIM key is based on the authenticated domain and not on the sending domain, correct?

    Thanked by 1jar
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @angstrom said: Simple-minded question: I guess that as far as validation on the receiving end is concerned, it doesn't matter that the DKIM key is based on the authenticated domain and not on the sending domain, correct?

    It does if the public keys mismatch. So if the private key for domain1.com is used to send the email but the sender is from domain2.com, and domain2.com has it's own public key in it's DNS, then it'll fail the DKIM test. Your options for not failing DKIM would be:

    1. Change the sending domain's public key to that of the auth domain's (which then breaks DKIM for the sending domain if you actually do auth with that domain to send later).
    2. Disable DKIM on the auth domain.
    3. Don't auth with a different domain than the one you send from.

    If someone is doing SMTP relaying like they have MXroute configured on their cPanel/DA server to route all of their hosting customers through MXroute, they'll want to disable DKIM for the auth domain in DirectAdmin on our side (and then their server will handle signing).

    Thanked by 1angstrom
  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @jar said:

    @angstrom said: Simple-minded question: I guess that as far as validation on the receiving end is concerned, it doesn't matter that the DKIM key is based on the authenticated domain and not on the sending domain, correct?

    It does if the public keys mismatch. So if the private key for domain1.com is used to send the email but the sender is from domain2.com, and domain2.com has it's own public key in it's DNS, then it'll fail the DKIM test. Your options for not failing DKIM would be:

    1. Change the sending domain's public key to that of the auth domain's (which then breaks DKIM for the sending domain if you actually do auth with that domain to send later).
    2. Disable DKIM on the auth domain.
    3. Don't auth with a different domain than the one you send from.

    If someone is doing SMTP relaying like they have MXroute configured on their cPanel/DA server to route all of their hosting customers through MXroute, they'll want to disable DKIM for the auth domain in DirectAdmin on our side (and then their server will handle signing).

    Kind of fascinating, all of this :)

    Another simple-minded question: I guess that there's no straightforward way of preventing a user from manipulating the sender domain, correct?

    (My first guess is that some of the big email providers try to prevent this or at least try to make this difficult, but perhaps this guess is incorrect)

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited July 2023

    @angstrom said: I guess that there's no straightforward way of preventing a user from manipulating the sender domain, correct?

    There is, but it would demolish a extremely significant number of legitimate use cases, probably cut my client base in half overnight.

    Something I said on Discord today was also motivated by that thought, though not directly mentioned:

    I keep thinking about how SRS enables and authenticates phishing emails, and how disabling it breaks basic functionality for a ton of users. Then I think: If I take a hardline position on security here, and all of my customers leave me to go to Provider2 who ignores that reality in favor of their profits, and I close my business, what positive net result have I made on industry security? I wish more people realized the intricacies of balancing security and convenience while also balancing the ability to make a meaningful difference

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  • didtavdidtav Member

    so what should the customers do? certainly not their problem, right?

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @didtav said: so what should the customers do?

    What you like :heart:

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    We're testing MailScanner in production (can't test customer satisfaction in staging) on the Arrow server, and we'll likely be expanding it to the rest of the servers. So you'll be able to train filters, release spam from quarantine (for 30 days), all kinds of good stuff.

    Thanked by 2DP r0xz
  • NhymxuNhymxu Member
    edited July 2023

    Hello @jar
    I am currently managing more than 10 domains with over 600 mailboxes for my customers, who are local businesses.

    I want to introduce my customers to something more affordable than Zoho (1$/mailbox/5Gb), for example, 0.5$/mailbox/3Gb. Additionally, users should be able to easily login their mailboxes via webmail, Outlook, and mobile apps (iOS/android), without requiring too much technical expertise.

    In your opinion, would the reseller plan or normal plan of MXRoute be more suitable for my needs?

    P/s: I heard that MXLogin/MXRoute for iOS/android is outdated and can no longer be used for login purposes, is that correct?

  • @Nhymxu said:

    P/s: I heard that MXLogin/MXRoute for iOS/android is outdated and can no longer be used for login purposes, is that correct?>

    App works fine for me... so I'd say that assumption is not correct...?

    Thanked by 1jar
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @Nhymxu said: In your opinion, would the reseller plan or normal plan of MXRoute be more suitable for my needs?

    Probably the non-reseller plans, because there's less work involved in your side to set up the service.

    @Nhymxu said: P/s: I heard that MXLogin/MXRoute for iOS/android is outdated and can no longer be used for login purposes, is that correct?

    The app updates itself internally. Some users have reported it not doing so even after being left open for a while. There's also the "Crossbox Cloud" app which is the exact same thing really.

  • @jar said:
    We're offering a promotion of our 200GB reseller plan. This comes with no limit on domains, email accounts, or sub-users. You have to figure out how to sell it, but I'm going to make it damn profitable for you to do so (Hint: Oversell no less than 2x resources, trust me).

    Order Link: https://accounts.mxroute.com/?cmd=cart&action=add&id=220

    This will be $100 for 1 year, $175 for 2 years, or $250 for 3 years. This package is regularly priced at $25/m and we do not have trouble selling them at the regular price, so take note that we're undercutting even the LET limit on reseller hosting price. You won't see a deal like this for quite some time.

    Is it possible to upgrade my current Reseller75 to this somehow? I tried, but the option wasn’t there. I’d have to register a new account? Just wondering!

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