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looking for cheap ASN + IPv4/31 for education/non-commercial

WIZARDWIZARD Member
edited April 2022 in General

So I was wondering what's the cheapest way of getting an ASN and a very small (/31?) ipv4 space (RIPE).

I'd like to join some IX for educational/private purposes thus I'd very much like to minimize the costs as I won't be getting any revenue from that whatsoever.

I tried with hostUS but it looks they gave up on giving cheap ASNs and they won't go below /24.

e: oops, google wouldn't help me finding the right thread, but manually looking on the general page yielded better results :) https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/160162/the-aio-ip-related-thread-ipv4-ipv6-asn-only-providers-or-lirs-are-allowed-to-post-offers
I guess this thread can be closed

Comments

  • ArashArash Member, LIR

    I can help you to get a ASN (I'm ripe member), but not sure if you can advertise less than /24 to the IX

    Thanked by 2Donkey WIZARD
  • OBHostOBHost Member, Host Rep

    No one will go below /24 for announcement as its not technically possible.

    Thanked by 1webcraft
  • AlaxonaAlaxona Member, LIR

    /31 is 2 addresses. You can rent Vultr/OVH, cheapest is 3-4-5$/m and it's goes with announcement and 1 address. Second will be 1-2$/m. Other people can get you ASN for free. I think this is cheapest.

    Thanked by 1WIZARD
  • i also have similar wish but i want asn and ipv6 from ripe.

  • jackbjackb Member, Host Rep
    edited April 2022

    @OBHost said:
    No one will go below /24 for announcement as its not technically possible.

    It's technically possible, just nobody will accept your routes and nobody will lease (besides with a VPS, dedicated server or colo where they are advertising /24 or larger) or sell something that small.

    @WIZARD for purely academic purposes you're better off with DN42.

    Thanked by 2webcraft WIZARD
  • OBHostOBHost Member, Host Rep

    @jackb said:

    @OBHost said:
    No one will go below /24 for announcement as its not technically possible.

    It's technically possible, just nobody will accept your routes and nobody will lease (besides with a VPS, dedicated server or colo where they are advertising /24 or larger) or sell something that small.

    OP need to announce /31 on his own ASN, Is that possible?

  • jackbjackb Member, Host Rep

    @OBHost said:

    @jackb said:

    @OBHost said:
    No one will go below /24 for announcement as its not technically possible.

    It's technically possible, just nobody will accept your routes and nobody will lease (besides with a VPS, dedicated server or colo where they are advertising /24 or larger) or sell something that small.

    OP need to announce /31 on his own ASN, Is that possible?

    Nobody would accept the routes -- but /24 isn't a technical hard limit as far as I'm aware. More of a practical limit, because anything smaller will get ignored.

  • OBHostOBHost Member, Host Rep

    @jackb said:

    OP need to announce /31 on his own ASN, Is that possible?

    Nobody would accept the routes -- but /24 isn't a technical hard limit as far as I'm aware. More of a practical limit, because anything smaller will get ignored.

    Hmm

  • AdvinAdvin Member, Host Rep

    Vultr will let you BGP with a private ASN and with floating IP's

    Thanked by 1WIZARD
  • quicksilver03quicksilver03 Member, Host Rep

    @Advin said:
    Vultr will let you BGP with a private ASN and with floating IP's

    Is this what you're referring about?

    https://www.vultr.com/docs/high-availability-on-vultr-with-floating-ip-and-bgp/

    My understanding of this document is that it's not anycast as commonly used because the instances which can be assigned the floating IP must be in the same Vultr location. Am I reading it correctly or is there something I'm missing?

  • ezethezeth Member, Host Rep
    edited April 2022

    @WIZARD said: very small (/31?) ipv4 space

    I mean why not. It might not go very far but there's no technical limitation in IPv4 that says it has to be at least a /24. I would recommend you to try a private AS and try doing a /31 internally instead

    With time it will be possible to annouce /26 etc but we're still a few years out

  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Member, Patron Provider

    During the past few days I have begun discussions with a couple of friendly guys about this thread's topic. We might do an article for Low End Box. It might take awhile. Friendly greetings from Mexico! 🌎🌍

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