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What's the false positive rate of Gmail's spam filters?
Get a decent VPS, install exim and use either free account Mailgun, Mailbaby, Sendgrid for smtp auth relay.
Cheap as hell.
Maybe I will not popular with this reply (because today's trend is the "outsourcing"), but..
+1 for self hosted solutions on reliable VPS's with backups (I know there is need some extra work in the beginning, and after some for the maintenance). But "your data is on your own hands", anytime can check logs, etc which is not available with external mail providers. You can add anytime new domains, aliases, etc without limits. No limit for postbox quotas (only the VM's disk size). If You use or manage a lot of domain, you can setup a pfa (postfixadmin) to manage them easily.
The reliable VM's maybe not cheap, and need some extra work, but the 'limitless' features, and the 'own control' worth it, I think. (it have more "value").
What is a 'MailChannels Hybrid' out of curiosity? Makes it sound like it's not MailChannels at all, but an in-house relay which isn't the same thing?
I'm guessing this means they try their own inhouse relay, then if the mail isn't delivered there's a mailchannels fallback.
I'm feeling a bit guilty about straying off-topic of the OP, but to close the circle on questions re: racknerd mailchannels hybrid it sounds like they're not committing to put 100% of emails through MC but maintain a list of destination domains that will be routed through MC and you can ask support to add domains as needed.
Keep in mind that mxroute spam filter is like ancient man vs space age if compared to big players. Delivery is not bad.
Sorry, but the only reason we even have to talk about deliverability is because the spam filters of the big players are fundamentally broken.
Nope. Gmail filter is superior.
whats wrong with Zoho free tier?
This is actually pretty nice!
Zoho limit free tier to 50 emails per user per day that you can send. More users = more emails.
I am using Postale.io and so far it's been 100% reliable. Might not be THE cheapest but it's pretty cheap.
Well i still doesn't understand why MXroute dropped cpanel in favor of directadmin maybe @jar can light my candle.
I am pretty sure mxroute on a blackfriday deal is the cheapest solution. But I guess other shared hosting accounts are the 2nd runners up and the vps though I leave mailing to providers since mail issues peeve me the most about the internet.
They use mailbaby for their outbound so deliverabilitiy is reliable.
I don't keep stats, but my spam box has low single digits and so a valid email does go there but easy to notice. Then click a button to tell Gmail it isn't spam and it doesn't happen again. I've been using catch-alls for two decades and I should have a metric ton of spam. I credit Gmail for that.
Pretty much if an email showed up in spam filter, your mail server is setup wrong, you have sketchy words, or you've previously been reported for spam.
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I also use the same setup for internal mailing, so you know it's worth getting lol
SPF, DMARC, DKIM, relayed via mailchannels
Then I have IMAP/SMTP setup at my Iphone mail, Mac mail. Also have it catch all mails, and send auto message when someone sends to [email protected]
Oh and of course it's safe. It requires communication to be encrypted before any communication happens
It's using ApisCP https://docs.apiscp.com/admin/Smtp/#configuration
Basically cPanel wanted me to bend over and take it without so much as a cigarette afterward. I'll raise prices on my customers over my dead body, I'll do what it takes to keep moving forward ♥️
It's a hybrid setup. Only whitelisted destinations get sent through mailbaby. Everything else is sent from the cPanel IP.
Oh I see and this is completely understandable Thanks
I @jar and MXRoute. You simply can't go wrong there. And he is one hundred percent correct, anyone can receive mail.
In fact, if you just need to receive mail, and don't need a bundled webmail client, have a look at Maddy. I run it on a VPS and use an Android client, desktop mail client, and I installed RainLoop on another machine in case I need a webmail alternative.
I thank everyone for the input!
I just signed up for oracle free tier.
If I get accepted....
I found several guides on how to setup a mail server on their always free plan.
This is best solution I found for myself.
So, I hope Yandex mail service or MXRoute is perfect for you. Try one.
Ya.. Oracle .. matrix ...
Not the best idea because after you've gone through the free tier limits you will have to either pay up, or move to something more affordable, which means changing the IP. And IP health and history is everything. Reconsider getting another VPS and stick with that if you aren't going to go the MXRoute route. Anyway, best of luck.
The free tier limits are actually quite generous, but can you even set the Reverse DNS record on the IP address?
After some googling I read that while you have a free trial, you can access tickets. The reverse dns record can be requested with a ticket and it's transfer over to always free. However, once your trial is over you can no longer make tickets.
Just a few months ago though, they started blocking email ports. So I don't think the guides I read to setup mail servers will work.