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It's a very big difference between Traffic data and User data.
Traffic data can be analyzed, dumped and stored if you have strong belief that criminal activity is ongoing.
User data however, can not be accessed or altered in any form. Should you provide this to local/international authorities, you need to offer the complete dump (.qcow2/raw hdd file, or physical disks).
There are multiple Romanian and European laws that regulate data protection, GDPR is one of them.
PS: Not saying that provider accessed/not accessed anything. I only refer to general regulations.
Let me be very clear: You are FULL of shit !!!!!!
You claiming whatever law that monitoring and logging traffic is required DOES NOT give you the right to "ROOT LOGIN" in the VPS of your clients.\
To be perfectly clear, you can have a monitoring and logging system leaving the VPSs to have all the data you want.
This is why I said that I strongly believe he's somehow completely misunderstood what his obligations are, and instead, he's actually going against the law (presumably privacy is a thing..)
You guys remember that provider have 'direct' access to your server and nothing stops him from taking snapshot of disk, editing grub, bypassing everything? OpenVZ, KVM, ssh keys, no ssh key? "But my server will reboot, I will notice!". Will you, really? Especially if 'provider' post something about "Node problem, had to reboot"? There was a lot of (shitty or not) darknet marketplaces taken over by GOVs because of reboots - they should notice it too, right? :-)
Remember to encrypt HDD :-)
This does not help if you already booted the system.
Shady things can be done anyway... Just use a trusted provider.
What @dedicatserver_ro is quoting is Romanias version of EU Data Retention Directive. These laws are aimed at traffic retention, not content control or accessing customers data. Due to the privacyconcerns, prior version of the laws have been struck down in court in multiple countires, including Romania, and declared unconstitutional.
According to the Directive, providers must retain traffic and location data as well as related data necessary to identify the subscriber, but not the content of the communication
There are strong privacylaws in Europe. Logging into customers server is not traffic control, that's content control - which is strictly forbidden.
I think I already made the point, guys.
As much as i know, the GDPR wasnt adopted in Romania, it was supposed to go through adoption in the senate room/parliament but it was delayed. I am not sure what is the status now.
And speaking of Romainan laws, you have to be a fucking judge to understand whatever the fuck they write in they'r laws. It's poor written and often leave's you with more questions than answers.
Due to the same avatar properly, and the host was probably a bit high.
@dedicatserver_ro i want to receive pms from you aswell and I have the same avatar, please send me pmss pms pms!
As I've received a reply from @FAT32 that no action would be taken towards the provider "due to non-provable accusations" that basically means - I was lying and accused the provider here.
Here I requested my ban "due to non-provable accusations" that I've taken publicly towards the provider!
Sorry, guys, this is my personal decision as @dedicatserver_ro said one of us should be banned for lying, and looks like I'm the one who was lying all of this time and good luck to all of you!
May we meet again!
Despite we have some evidences, we don't have enough strong evidences that can prove that dedicatserver_ro accessed the service.
In addition, there's some scenarios that could be valid on why the provider accessed the service either intentionally or unintentionally due to reasons that I cannot share because alexvolk didn't allow me to share them publicly.
Therefore, unfortunately, despite there's a possibility that they accessed the service, we cannot take action just because of non-provable accusations.
Ban is easier said than done, it seems like just a button but I hope you understand that there's a lot of consequences and shouldn't be taken lightly.
@alexvolk, if you want, you can submit a complaint to the Romanian Consumer Protection Agency/Ancom or DataProtection.ro, maybe they can help you.
The word "non-provable accusations" here means:
This is by no means saying you are lying but the evidences are not sufficient. We are also unable to fairly listen to the provider side of the story as there's nothing specific that they can look into.
Time to buy 100 VPS from this provider as honey pot with per second logging of bash_history
As I have said, even though there might some scenarios, however, providers shouldn't access customer service without explicit permission.
I didn't want to share the reason publicly so provider would threaten each of their customers equally. As I've said I don't want to say that here I'm - go give me some favor.
As I have been "lying" or "accusing" this provider and I see this is the only possible solution to make LET feel a safer place without my unproven allegations.
Maybe after a few years when they'll finally Deadpool or be caught again and I'll request my unban via ticket (if that's possible) until that there is no reason for me to stay here.
Anyways, this is my personal decision and I do really hope you would respect my decision.
Thanks!
Man a bunch of Karen’s in this thread!
No need to ban no one, only delete this post. Thanks!
@alexvolk - next time open a ticket, or PM
I didnt receive pm too
Same
where my PM how to make ticket
Evidence my arse. It's clear as day that the host is at fault.
Trying to look for indisputable evidence is like trying hard not to ban a shitty provider.
But then what else is new around here. Even cociu was unbanned.
The end is nigh.
according his statement, alexvolk is lier
the end
No, it means that dedicatserver_ro's highly likely snooping can't be proven based on what the admins/ods have as evidence.
That's not how it's done.
Yeah, enjoy your victory. Sooner or later we will get you, [self-censored]! It won't be you who has the last laugh ...
So, quite a bit of your operations relies on a PHP module ... interesting ... and somewhat unfortunate for someone who made lots of enemies * cold smile
BS! All the admins/mods decision says that what alexvolk said may well be true - and IMO highly likely is - but can't be proven.
Well I think there is more to the story. Where there any prior tickets relating any problems with the vps? We are so quick to blame maybe there was a logical explanation for all this. We are quick to jump on the bang wagon to hang someone when the picture is not so clear cut.
Not to mention its shady as hell that he doesn't want FAT to show the stuff. Not even to the provider.
pff what does @Francisco 's colleague/team member have to do with this?
Fuck, 2 minutes into Borat I am already loosing it again.
Great, i'm going to eat a shoe to the head today.
THANKS GUYS.
Francisco