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★ VirMach ★ Fashionably Late Black Friday & Cyber Week 2020 ★ Flash Deals ★ View inside ★ $7/Yr 512M

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  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    Anyone want to share their better deal price estimation algorithm for the tracker? :joy:

    https://virmach.fat32.top/

    Thanked by 2Ganonk _MS_
  • BertieBertie Member
    edited December 2020

    @FAT32 said: Anyone want to share their better deal price estimation algorithm for the tracker? :joy:

    return (
      cpu * 3 +
      disk * 0.12 +
      ram * 0.009 +
      bandwidth * 0.000 +
      ip * 1 +
      (windows ? 2 : 0)
    ) * (location === Location.SJ ? 1.2 : 1);
    

    This is mine. Some of it is personal reasoning: I prefer a San Jose location and I am never going to actually use ~250GB+ of bandwidth. (I could run a Syncthing relay or something but I'm not too interested).

    That being said, Virmach vCPUs tend to be quite weak and the main bottleneck. Their AUP has pretty strict CPU usage limits so having too few CPU capacity can negate many of the higher memory applications.

    Disk space is another limiting bottleneck, but I don't have nearly as much use for more SSD space once I have 25GB+. I didn't want to write an if/and, but maybe reduce value if a VPS offer has less than 15GB of SSD space (their lowest special offer)? i.e. 5/10/15GB SSD reduces the value by $5/10, whereas 20GB adds $x in value?

    IPs: whatever lol - we're never going to get more than 1 and I don't think it plays that big of a role in the valuation. I was too lazy to add a calculation to add $6 for each additional IP.

    The main thought I have is just that vCores are undervalued and memory is overvalued in your current algorithm. It's not nearly as useful to have a high-RAM VPS if you're struggling not to exceed fair usage on a single-core vCPU with 300 GB score.

    Thanked by 1FAT32
  • @Unicom said:

    @saibal said:
    The next VirBot offer will probably have 10GB RAM and 1GB disk :(

    It is clear that VirMach has a shortage of SSDs at the moment. There are so many unbalanced deals where SSD is the most imbalance factor and bottleneck.

    Agree. Perhaps the logic is not to compete with the Special Offers? They all have (had?) SSD allocations that were in balance with the rest of the spec.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited December 2020

    @FAT32 said:
    Anyone want to share their better deal price estimation algorithm for the tracker? :joy:

    https://virmach.fat32.top/

    Take the history data, process the offers for each location separate, take the average per Memory/Core/Storage/Bandwith and use that to rate how good a offer is.

    I would exclude the most expensive one, before calculating the average.
    If its below, its pretty good, on average good, over bad.

    Thanked by 2Bertie FAT32
  • @8nation said: Agree. Perhaps the logic is not to compete with the Special Offers? They all have (had?) SSD allocations that were in balance with the rest of the spec.

    I'm sure that's a factor but they can't really oversell disk space in their KVM configuration, while they can definitely oversell the other resources (e.g. RAM, network and CPU to a lesser extent).

  • @guyz92 said: Netboot.xyz personally I have not tried installing windows, as netboot.xyz may need large amount of RAM.

    I gave netboot.xyz Windows installer a test on a $8.88 box (1920MB RAM) in preparation for a vm with another provider - it hung after probing hard drives and doesn't get to a prompt. I didn't put a lot of time into troubleshooting it because it just worked on the other vm. The boot.wim did have the right virstor and NetKVM drivers rolled in.

  • ZA_capetownZA_capetown Member
    edited December 2020

    I did some nested if's for

    1. boost and adjust score for a bigger windows with certain minimum specs
    2. boost and adjust score a smaller windows also with certain minimum specs
    3. disqualify (make 2%) deals with a disqualifying 'too low' attribute

    All 3 within a certain price limit


    if ( (windows) & (cpu >= 2) & (disk >= 30) & (ram >= 3900) & (bandwidth >= 1000) & (price <= 45)) {
    return (15 + 0 + (cpu * 2.8) + (ram * 0.045) + (disk * 0.3)
    + (bandwidth * 0.004) + (ip * 6) );
    } else {
    // above specs for a medium-big Windows

    if ( (windows) & (cpu >= 2) & (disk >= 20) & (ram >= 1900) & (bandwidth >= 1000) & (price <= 25)) {
    return (15 - 0 + (cpu * 2.8) + (ram * 0.045) + (disk * 0.3)
    + (bandwidth * 0.004) + (ip * 6) );
    } else {
    // above specs for a tiny Windows

    if ( ! ( (disk >= 10) & (ram >= 768) & (bandwidth >= 500)) & (price >= 7)) {
    return (price * 1.02 ) ;
    } else {
    // above disqualified, set to 2% to indicate too low specs


    Edit: then after those as the last one (that I didn't paste), it defaults to @FAT32 's settings for all other deals, if a deal doesn't match the above 3

    Thanked by 2RecD FAT32
  • VirMachVirMach Member, Patron Provider

    Most of the vserverid issues are fixed, if you have a ticket open for this please do close it.

    Thanked by 1ZA_capetown
  • @ZA_capetown said: ram * 0.045

    You're valuing ram as >$45/year per GB, which is pretty expensive

  • @Virmach no large HDD languishing in closets?

  • ZA_capetownZA_capetown Member
    edited December 2020

    @smallbibi said:

    @ZA_capetown said: ram * 0.045

    You're valuing ram as >$45/year per GB, which is pretty expensive

    Yes and No.
    My actual values weren't all that important or meant to reflect the absolute value per item, but rather the relative number compared to other components...

    And the end score percentage shown which I wanted high to catch my attention

    with my +15 added and not +30 for windows etc it kind of balances out

    When it met the minimum requirements of 1TB bandwidth for example, I don't care all that much for how much more it is

    (I will definitely spend more time for a more exact calculation in future... it was less important to me this time)

    Edit: That weird combination/formulae makes that the deals I'm interested in and will consider, appears in RED (above 80%) to catch my eye... (and the percentage number I then use as a relative comparison...)

  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint Member
    edited December 2020

    ^ should be -30 due to the amount of Windoze neighbours doing port scanning/broadcasts. :expressionless:

  • @VirMach said:
    Most of the vserverid issues are fixed, if you have a ticket open for this please do close it.

    Hello sir.

    I have a ticket which is still showing "Awaiting Billing Department" - credit card charged but purchase showing cancelled. Could you please assist? Thanks.

  • @AlwaysSkint said:
    ^ should be -30 due to the amount of Windoze neighbours doing port scanning/broadcasts. :expressionless:

    Yes, and I'm not sure how the 'No License included' thing will now affect things...
    and whether I was stupid to give windows options an elevated score

    I ended up getting two "windows" ones (2GB and 3GB) and unless there is some super amazing windows deals coming I don't plan on getting any more of those.

    Will windows actually still be an install option and will it continue working without a license?
    (those 2 are only for personal use and not actually meant to run as servers)

    All the rest in my collection is linux only.

  • @AlwaysSkint said:
    ^ should be -30 due to the amount of Windoze neighbours doing port scanning/broadcasts. :expressionless:

    In default Public windows firewall? Don't think so.

  • VirMachVirMach Member, Patron Provider

    @AlwaysSkint said: @Virmach no large HDD languishing in closets?

    @codydoby said:
    @VirMach Dear boss, is it possible tell us a rough dateline for the flash sell? I'm almost exhausted. If you tell us the time in advance, I can allocate my energy reasonably :smile:

    Sometime between now and Christmas-ish but then maybe we'll have a Christmas flash sale, who knows.

    Thanked by 2merlinvn FrankZ
  • toumi111toumi111 Member
    edited December 2020

    @VirMach can we get this deal?

    8vCore
    4560MB RAM
    80G SSD
    2xIP
    3000GB Bandwidth
    $20.98

  • JabJabJabJab Member
    edited December 2020

    @toumi111 said: 8vCore
    4560MB RAM
    80G SSD
    2xIP
    3000GB Bandwidth
    $20.98

    In Amsterdam!
    :D

    Vanilla quoting is broken, please fix :<

    Thanked by 1Unicom
  • @VirMach said:

    @AlwaysSkint said: @Virmach no large HDD languishing in closets?

    @codydoby said:
    @VirMach Dear boss, is it possible tell us a rough dateline for the flash sell? I'm almost exhausted. If you tell us the time in advance, I can allocate my energy reasonably :smile:

    Sometime between now and Christmas-ish but then maybe we'll have a Christmas flash sale, who knows.

    I think I will be bankrupt before Christmas :blush:

    Thanked by 1atindahause
  • LIMITED OFFER
    $5.00 /yr
    VIRTUALIZATION KVM – 1 GIGABIT
    RAM 2048MB RAM
    CPU 2 vCORE
    HDD 10GB SSD (RAID 10)
    BANDWIDTH 100GB BANDWIDTH
    LOCATION LOS ANGELES, CA LOCATION
    IPs 1 DEDICATED IPv4

    amazing

    Thanked by 1Ganonk
  • RecDRecD Member
    edited December 2020

    @arbae said:
    LIMITED OFFER
    $5.00 /yr
    VIRTUALIZATION KVM – 1 GIGABIT
    RAM 2048MB RAM
    CPU 2 vCORE
    HDD 10GB SSD (RAID 10)
    BANDWIDTH 100GB BANDWIDTH
    LOCATION LOS ANGELES, CA LOCATION
    IPs 1 DEDICATED IPv4

    amazing

    100G BW
    Idling King

    Edit:damn it’s oos, missed it

  • @arbae said:
    LIMITED OFFER
    $5.00 /yr
    VIRTUALIZATION KVM – 1 GIGABIT
    RAM 2048MB RAM
    CPU 2 vCORE
    HDD 10GB SSD (RAID 10)
    BANDWIDTH 100GB BANDWIDTH
    LOCATION LOS ANGELES, CA LOCATION
    IPs 1 DEDICATED IPv4

    amazing

    Yep.

  • man that was perfect for me but i missed it lol won the game in cold war tho so i can't complain

    Thanked by 1dTQzBen8
  • Damn I didn't manage to get this $5 LA one, all went well up to the last step and cart empty :neutral:

    Thanked by 1AlwaysSkint
  • Missed that one.

  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint Member
    edited December 2020

    @TimboJones said: In default Public windows firewall?

    Is there such a thing? You wouldn't think so, looking at my server logs from all over.

    @arbae said: amazing

    I relented but demand was too high - went OOS on final step.

  • well, that was fast! :)

  • @ZA_capetown said:
    Damn I didn't manage to get this $5 LA one, all went well up to the last step and cart empty :neutral:

    Same here :'(

  • Agreed! I was also on my last step and then go redirected to the empty cart. It went out pretty quick though.

  • RadiRadi Host Rep, Veteran
    edited December 2020

    I ordered the $5/yr VPS and again same thing @VirMach. I have also updated ticket.
    Placed order like @vairav and got redirected to empty cart.
    I am out of $10 and two missed specials.. Not really fair in my opinion. It seems that they are not just pre-authorizations as Curve usually processes removals within few hours, which hasn't happened. I will ask them tomorrow and see what they reply, but I am 99% sure that the first transaction has gone through and so will the second.

    Thanked by 1Ganonk
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